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edk370 02-17-2015 04:05 PM
Yeah baby, C7 M3/4 level power and acceleration. Watch out!!

Firebase99 02-17-2015 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3114511)
Yeah baby, C7 M3/4 level power and acceleration. Watch out!!
Close, hopefully itll be close realistically. Z32 was nipping at the P Turbo back in '91, Z33 was running with E46 M, Z34 handed the Boxster its *** and right there with the S. Unfortunately by 2010 the Germans pulled away and stayed there.

Driftomodachi 02-17-2015 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3114458)
:iagree:

I feel that's the point people overlook when they get into these weight arguments.

like yea no shit lighter would be better but at this price point of the Z we aren't paying for all carbon fiber pieces, magnesium, etc... like the million dollar super cars that can weigh under 3k pounds with 700+ HP

it's a budget sports car in all reality. <50K car with good power, good tech, and a great body. may be just above 3k pounds but that's not bad with the power and handling that comes with the Z
The Alfa 4C is all carbon fiber and under $70k

brucelidat 02-17-2015 05:27 PM
Which is still a hell of a lot higher than the Z's pricepoint not to mention it has a 1.7 liter engine.

Firebase99 02-17-2015 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114596)
The Alfa 4C is all carbon fiber and under $70k
The engine and performance are more than adequate, but that is spartan for a DD. If i had $70K for a toy Id get one. I have 2004 accord, 2013 S60 and my GC. Not an option with a $50K budget, Italians are out at this price point.

Magic Bus 02-17-2015 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3114605)
The engine and performance are more than adequate, but that is spartan for a DD. If i had $70K for a toy Id get one. I have 2004 accord, 2013 S60 and my GC. Not an option with a $50K budget, Italians are out at this price point.
But you could get 2 Abarths ;)

ZKraken22 02-17-2015 06:48 PM
I've heard on fastlane daily the Q60 is getting a V6TT AMG Benz engine at 333 HP and a TT V8. Heard to believe and I wouldn't want a Benz engine as to me wouldn't feel like a japenese car. But Nissan and MB have been working together so wouldn't dismiss it.

FPenvy 02-17-2015 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114596)
The Alfa 4C is all carbon fiber and under $70k

Yea but for 70k I can get a 2013 gtr with less than 5k miles. 2015 gtr's are going for 85k at the dealer auction all day.

Plus the Alfa doesn't look good to me personally. It's cool but I wouldn't waste my money on it.

$45k for a TT Z is quite alright with me. My 2009 sticker as $43k with everything but the illuminated kick plates.

FPenvy 02-17-2015 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 3114677)
I've heard on fastlane daily the Q60 is getting a V6TT AMG Benz engine at 333 HP and a TT V8. Heard to believe and I wouldn't want a Benz engine as to me wouldn't feel like a japenese car. But Nissan and MB have been working together so wouldn't dismiss it.

That was the rumor months ago.

Nissan has already said they aren't borrowing the engine from their new friends at Mercedes. It's going to be a new nissan engine in the q60.

Kaldaien 02-17-2015 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 3114677)
I've heard on fastlane daily the Q60 is getting a V6TT AMG Benz engine at 333 HP and a TT V8. Heard to believe and I wouldn't want a Benz engine as to me wouldn't feel like a japenese car. But Nissan and MB have been working together so wouldn't dismiss it.
Well, the current VQ37VHR is effectively a French / Japanese engine. But I don't really think of it as a Renault all that often ;)

http://www.the370z.com/members/wstar...-left-disc.jpg

"Renault, Nissan, Hitachi" is forged right on the throttle body. I don't think Renault uses a VQ37VHR in any of their cars, but they have borrowed other VQ models.

Driftomodachi 02-17-2015 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3114747)
Yea but for 70k I can get a 2013 gtr with less than 5k miles. 2015 gtr's are going for 85k at the dealer auction all day.

Plus the Alfa doesn't look good to me personally. It's cool but I wouldn't waste my money on it.

$45k for a TT Z is quite alright with me. My 2009 sticker as $43k with everything but the illuminated kick plates.
2015 GT-R's going for $85k all day? What are you smoking? Maybe 2012 and earlier. MAYBE a very very few 2015 but not "all day" as you say

rooftop 02-17-2015 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114862)
2015 GT-R's going for $85k all day? What are you smoking? Maybe 2012 and earlier. MAYBE a very very few 2015 but not "all day" as you say
Dealer auctions, not stealershits

Driftomodachi 02-17-2015 11:05 PM
I have a few friends who go to auctions. They see 2009-2012 GT-R's mostly. But never a 2015.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114892)
I have a few friends who go to auctions. They see 2009-2012 GT-R's mostly. But never a 2015.

Your friends are lying to you then.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...309c734df1.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...7391a677de.jpg

MC 02-18-2015 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114862)
2015 GT-R's going for $85k all day? What are you smoking? Maybe 2012 and earlier. MAYBE a very very few 2015 but not "all day" as you say


Most are indeed going for low to mid 80s at dealerships too. I just moved one at 106k one for 86 for a forum member and ive seen a 103k premium go for 81 this week. 17k off is about the norm the last few months since the December incentive went active

The GTR market is in a bit of a severe free fall since August

brucelidat 02-18-2015 01:34 AM
I'm seeing I can get a new 2015 GT-R in my area for 88k (not that I am ready to drop that much money on a car right now) online. Why have the GT_R prices nose-dived so badly these past few months?

b15 02-18-2015 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3114930)
I'm seeing I can get a new 2015 GT-R in my area for 88k (not that I am ready to drop that much money on a car right now) online. Why have the GT_R prices nose-dived so badly these past few months?
Most likely supply and demand. The GTR , at least in the Chicago area, is a very common car. Despite being long in tooth it is still an impressive car and Nissan continually updates it. Wish they did the same to the Z.

I'm also patiently waiting for new details of a Z34 successor. Was happy to hear that the new 3.0tt was a Nissan unit and not Mercedes.

njobe89 02-18-2015 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3114862)
2015 GT-R's going for $85k all day? What are you smoking? Maybe 2012 and earlier. MAYBE a very very few 2015 but not "all day" as you say
no, he is telling the truth. a friend of mine works as the finance manager at nissan and was telling us they sold a 2015 gtr for 85k. that's at the dealership.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3114925)
Most are indeed going for low to mid 80s at dealerships too. I just moved one at 106k one for 86 for a forum member and ive seen a 103k premium go for 81 this week. 17k off is about the norm the last few months since the December incentive went active

The GTR market is in a bit of a severe free fall since August
yea the best time to buy a GT-R and I went and got a house..........fail.

:shakes head:

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115105)
yea the best time to buy a GT-R and I went and got a house..........fail.

:shakes head:
Not a total fail bro... think about it for a sec... you have a new home and a kick a$$ "stock" Z loooooooool!:bowrofl:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115114)
Not a total fail bro... think about it for a sec... you have a new home and a kick a$$ "stock" Z loooooooool!:bowrofl:
haha had to go and bring that up again :bowrofl:

but the way I see it is if the next Z has the power that is rumored and looks good i'll buy it 100%

if the Z looks awful i'll probably buy the Q60.

if both end up being sub-par i'll just find a way to make a new house and a GT-R work.......by selling my body.

any takers? :yum:

mishuko 02-18-2015 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115117)
haha had to go and bring that up again :bowrofl:

but the way I see it is if the next Z has the power that is rumored and looks good i'll buy it 100%

if the Z looks awful i'll probably buy the Q60.

if both end up being sub-par i'll just find a way to make a new house and a GT-R work.......by selling my body.

any takers? :yum:
you already give it up for free... why would someone pay :stirthepot:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3115127)
you already give it up for free... why would someone pay :stirthepot:
shhhhhhhh! these people don't know that yet. that's an OG thing :tiphat:

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115117)
haha had to go and bring that up again :bowrofl:

but the way I see it is if the next Z has the power that is rumored and looks good i'll buy it 100%

if the Z looks awful i'll probably buy the Q60.

if both end up being sub-par i'll just find a way to make a new house and a GT-R work.......by selling my body.

any takers? :yum:
Post pics.... :worthless: and you made shipping to PR :confused:

Loooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!! :bowrofl:

BTW continue on topic... if they come with the power that every rumor have right now... I think im in the same boat my friend! buy one :) but i think it will be the Q60 cause i dont think my GF eventually this year my Wife... want two seaters anymore.... soo if i change my Z i think i will ended up in the Q60... but trust me if the Z looks like the S30Z.. fckt im going to buy it for sure loool!!

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115128)
shhhhhhhh! these people don't know that yet. that's an OG thing :tiphat:
:wtf:.... and you want me too pay for you :icon08:

you little biatch!:shakes head:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115137)
Post pics.... :worthless: and you made shipping to PR :confused:

Loooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!! :bowrofl:

BTW continue on topic... if they come with the power that every rumor have right now... I think im in the same boat my friend! buy one :) but i think it will be the Q60 cause i dont think my GF eventually this year my Wife... want two seaters anymore.... soo if i change my Z i think i will ended up in the Q60... but trust me if the Z looks like the S30Z.. fckt im going to buy it for sure loool!!
yea if the power is 400 or more as speculated i'll have a hard time saying no. but the body will need to be good too. whats the point of having an ugly car? it's like those guys who dump all their money into a subie. yea you may have power but your car looks terrible lol :stirthepot:

the Q60 looks sexy now but i'm worried that the production model might lose some of it's awesomeness if they neuter it too much looks wise. I mean how many times do we see a concept, it looks amazing, then the production model looks completely different.

as for the significant other aspect i'm good if I want a 2 seater since the wifey can't wait for me to buy a new car so she can steal my Z lol

I told her if she does any mods that start making it look stanced......i'll strap C4 to it and flip the switch :tup:

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115140)
:wtf:.... and you want me too pay for you :icon08:

you little biatch!:shakes head:
go premie and become and OG ;)

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115148)
yea if the power is 400 or more as speculated i'll have a hard time saying no. but the body will need to be good too. whats the point of having an ugly car? it's like those guys who dump all their money into a subie. yea you may have power but your car looks terrible lol :stirthepot:

the Q60 looks sexy now but i'm worried that the production model might lose some of it's awesomeness if they neuter it too much looks wise. I mean how many times do we see a concept, it looks amazing, then the production model looks completely different.

as for the significant other aspect i'm good if I want a 2 seater since the wifey can't wait for me to buy a new car so she can steal my Z lol

I told her if she does any mods that start making it look stanced......i'll strap C4 to it and flip the switch :tup:



go premie and become and OG ;)
HEY HEY HEY.... wash out with your comments against the Subie's loooool!! i come from one :p

But i agree bro!!! you have to spend some money to make it look good... i spend a lot :/ if i would know more about the Z34 trust me that i dont spend too much on the subie... Anyway back to the topic... I agree with you bro... the concepts always looks damn good and the production car lost a lot of goodies.... i hope the companies start making the car almost like the concepts... for example that Q60... looks freaking great... its a car that im looking in it! ihope the production car looks almost the same... but we know what are going to happen :shakes head:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115176)
HEY HEY HEY.... wash out with your comments against the Subie's loooool!! i come from one :p

But i agree bro!!! you have to spend some money to make it look good... i spend a lot :/ if i would know more about the Z34 trust me that i dont spend too much on the subie... Anyway back to the topic... I agree with you bro... the concepts always looks damn good and the production car lost a lot of goodies.... i hope the companies start making the car almost like the concepts... for example that Q60... looks freaking great... its a car that im looking in it! ihope the production car looks almost the same... but we know what are going to happen :shakes head:
well we can always hope that for once when a company says the production version wont be much different than the concept that it will actually happen.

but i'm with you thinking it's a long shot. fingers crossed I guess lol

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115181)
well we can always hope that for once when a company says the production version wont be much different than the concept that it will actually happen.

but i'm with you thinking it's a long shot. fingers crossed I guess lol
:iagree: can wait to see the Z35 Concept :stirthepot:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115192)
:iagree: can wait to see the Z35 Concept :stirthepot:
:iagree:

jpkirk 02-18-2015 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115117)
haha had to go and bring that up again :bowrofl:

but the way I see it is if the next Z has the power that is rumored and looks good i'll buy it 100%

if the Z looks awful i'll probably buy the Q60.

if both end up being sub-par i'll just find a way to make a new house and a GT-R work.......by selling my body.

any takers? :yum:
Um ... :wtf2: ... no.

Firebase99 02-18-2015 09:13 AM
Whats the new Q60 gonna run you think? $50K easy I bet?

FPenvy 02-18-2015 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3115218)
Whats the new Q60 gonna run you think? $50K easy I bet?
the 2015 Q60 bases at 40k soooo I would assume the updated 2016/17 Q60 would base around 45-50k with the body and engine update easily.

given that it is infinti and not Nissan that price isn't out of the realm of possibility. especially with the 2015 Q60S starting at 47k and the limited version starting at 50K. then the vert IPL basing at 62k.

Tigger 02-18-2015 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115148)
yea if the power is 400 or more as speculated i'll have a hard time saying no. but the body will need to be good too. whats the point of having an ugly car? it's like those guys who dump all their money into a subie. yea you may have power but your car looks terrible lol :stirthepot:
So why again would you want a GTR? You wanna talk ugly... lol :stirthepot:

Driftomodachi 02-18-2015 10:31 AM
Damn. I should start saving then. But I don't want an automatic transmission. Too boring

Tigger 02-18-2015 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by driftomodachi (Post 3115334)
damn. I should start saving then. But i don't want an automatic transmission. Too boring
dct?

FPenvy 02-18-2015 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3115328)
So why again would you want a GTR? You wanna talk ugly... lol :stirthepot:
you shut your mouth! that's blasphemy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3115334)
Damn. I should start saving then. But I don't want an automatic transmission. Too boring
that's the argument I never really understand. the automatic in the Z is a lot of fun and the GT-R with a DCT is a dream.

think about it for a second. a MT is a pain in the ass for everyday driving.

the part where driving gets fun is pedal to the floor, on a track, on the dragon or twisties, etc....

balls out the AT is just as fun if not more than a MT. yes the MT diehards will argue the MT you have more control and feel blah blah blah.

it's all the same......just minus a pedal. either model you're control shifts, RPMs, which gear you want going in and out of corners. yes the AT you cant jump 4th to 2nd or 5th to 3rd or whatever needs to be done. but it's still fun and useful.

now no more MT v AT talk. I like this thread too much lol

:tiphat:

jwick 02-18-2015 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115148)
yea if the power is 400 or more as speculated i'll have a hard time saying no. but the body will need to be good too. whats the point of having an ugly car? it's like those guys who dump all their money into a subie. yea you may have power but your car looks terrible lol :stirthepot:
And yet you drool over GT-Rs like you'd give your first born:rofl2:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115364)
And yet you drool over GT-Rs like you'd give your first born:rofl2:
easy now lol

the GT-R is a thing of beauty in my eyes. :stirthepot:

jwick 02-18-2015 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115366)
easy now lol

the GT-R is a thing of beauty in my eyes. :stirthepot:
These the same eyes that give you so much confidence???

Explains a lot:stirthepot:


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