The NISMO redeems itself...ish

kenchan · 10-12-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

if that was the Nismo why does it have navi???

because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

because in japan not having navi is like a car without a steering wheel.

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

JoeD · 10-13-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment.

Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

370Zsteve · 10-13-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joed

please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

lmao

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Please go back and slap whoever it was that made you believe this. They deserve it. It's not your fault.

The rest of your post is just a face-palm...

The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!

rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!

So you are attacking a guy because he upgraded from a base Z to the Nismo (which I agree is a joke but is still an upgrade over the base that he had) Yet you are the one talking about how they use more carbon fiber and titanium on the "Japanese version"?

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rednek01

So you are attacking a guy because he upgraded from a base Z to the Nismo (which I agree is a joke but is still an upgrade over the base that he had) Yet you are the one talking about how they use more carbon fiber and titanium on the "Japanese version"?

Huh... they use more lightweight materials cuz safety regs are far less stringent. Cars are lighter. I'm not attacking him. I'm just stating facts. Maybe if he wasn't tellin me to slap people in the face n make racial (guido comments it wouldn't come out the way it did. And it did. And wat? Wats ur point? I'm just beon real. Speak with respevct n u will be respected. Talk down to people n u will get the same in return. I'm not attacking him. I'm just giving back what I'm getting.

10-13-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Maybe if he wasn't tellin me to slap people in the face n make racial (guido comments it wouldn't come out the way it did.

He didnt just tell you to slap people...he told you to slap yourself

rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Huh... they use more lightweight materials cuz safety regs are far less stringent. Cars are lighter. I'm not attacking him. I'm just stating facts. Maybe if he wasn't tellin me to slap people in the face n make racial (guido comments it wouldn't come out the way it did. And it did. And wat? Wats ur point? I'm just beon real. Speak with respevct n u will be respected. Talk down to people n u will get the same in return. I'm not attacking him. I'm just giving back what I'm getting.

Where did he go racial? I see that no where in the slap yourself post... Secondly please please please tell me you are really joking about a Japanese version that is lighter because it uses more light weight materials. Even if (which I dont know the regulations in japan) they are less stringent on safety and lets say they dont require the airbags and such you are talking 30-50 lbs at most of removed safety equipment. and that is saying the even bother to remove it (which I also highly doubt) but I can tell you for sure that they do not manufacture separate parts that are made of carbon fiber or titanium and are lighter. Please tell me you arent that ignorant.

phelan · 10-13-2009, 10:38 AM

phelan · 10-13-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

First, please use full words and sentences, makes your arguments a bit better and easier for others.
Second, you come in here stating "facts" that Nissan Japan cars using lighter material but with no links to real facts. Provide some, current, data on this and we will believe it but until then..well you see what happens.

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Huh...they use more lightweight materials because safety regulations in Japan are far less stringent, therefore their cars are lighter. I'm not attacking him, I'm just stating facts. Maybe if he wasn't telling me to slap people in the face and make racial comments it wouldn't have come out the way it did, but what's your point? I'm just being real. Speak with respect and you will be respected, talk down to people and expect the same. I'm not attacking him, I'm just giving back what I've received.

^fix'd per theDreamer request

course I had no idea how to recover that last section...hard to grammar correct "being real", because y'know, it's gangsta and all that

BTW, numbers for the JDM that I found have the weights ranging from 3,262 lbs to 3,373 lbs. In fact, this website (y“úŽY VŒ^ ƒtƒFƒAƒŒƒfƒBZ VŽÔî•ñz40”N–Ú‚ÌNEW Z‚Íu‘–‚èv‚Ìi‰»‚É“Á‰»‚µ‚½I 6‘ã–Ú VŒ^uƒtƒFƒAƒŒƒfƒBZvAƒfƒrƒ…[I :: CORISM) has it at 3351 lbs. I do expect that reported weight to be heavier than what it currently is, considering the article was in 12/2008, so since then there has been some small weight shaving and refinement of the vehicle.

Compare that to US spec: 3,232 to 3,300 for base 370Z to Nismo 370Z, respectively, I think it's within 'noise'. That is, the weights are comparatively equal, and your argument just went out the door.

JoeD · 10-13-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

The only one round here need slappin is you.
This has been an issue in many a car magazine, over and over and over again.
This is y they never wanted to send over the GTR and skyline. Nissan felt that to bring the name over the US needed to either let go of some of its retrictions to keep the integrity of the car or not send them. The US wouldn't make the exception so they opted out.
They made an agreement that we would get a version of the skyline in the infiniti G37.
This car is not as capable as a skyline. If it were? Tuners wouldn't be ordering 5 year old skylines from japan at new G37 prices.
So now u r just really tryin to sell this NISMO thing to the public so bad that anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off. Well get over it dude.
You went from a touring (with NO SPORT PKG) to a NISMO, so I'm sure u feel improvements and after taking a nasty loss in depreciation to buy "the best Z" n brag about it. I'm sure u were expecting this car to kick the base sport a$$. Sorry u didn't wait for the reviews. Sh1t happens!
Now u stuck on the internet trying to find any bit of info that will change the minds of the 70% of people the NISMO Isn't worth it so u can justify taking a $4k+ loss. I feel u. But the slaps keep comin to your face n out ya a$$ "bruh"
Truth is the nismo is a nice track car on a general level but by comparison of its understudy, its a fail. Plain and simple. It gets .01g more than sport cuz it has wider tires. Any fool can purchase a $2,500 in a wheel n tire package in $350 sways n get .99g.
The 350z was a much better track car dollar for dollar cuz of all its "TRUE" track enhancements, like chassis strengthening, and dampening, weight reduction instead of gaining 50lbs. Plus a few extra to list.
Like I said once b4. The nismo is a great car, and has no competition in its price range. So its a good car. But when u compare it to its brother. Its a fail at a $6,000 price hike.
Just look at a NISMO 350 and it tells u the whole story.
If the nismo was 36,000 from the base sports 33000. I would say great package. Jump on it. At 39,700. Lol. You gotta be kiddin me!

Huh?

Nismo_370 · 10-13-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Anything that pops ya lil dream of havin the best car on the forum pisses u off.

Evidence
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rednek01 · 10-13-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

we better overnight one of those puppies from Japan yo!

xfrgtr · 10-13-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.

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