'14 Nismo or "Z35" Detroit
 

So I'm ready to trade in my '10 roadster for a brand new '14 Nismo but people are saying Nissan might reveal the new Z concept in Detroit. Any clues or thoughts from you guys? Going for the White Nismo from a Silver Roadster.

Highly doubt it will be revealed there

what are your reasons for wanting to trade?

...I'd wait to see what the new gen looks like first; that's what I'm waiting on...

Is it even possible to make the car look any better than it does already? :rofl2:

They could put the GTR engine in it.

Either way, unless you are looking to buy a car NOW, I'd wait a year.

If nothing else, the coming of the Z35 will make it easier to buy a Z34, which a dealer will be itching to get off the lot once the next model is confirmed and ready to ship.

On the other hand, if the Z35 is that much better, you may also kick yourself for not just getting it when it becomes available.

My 2011 will be paid off just in time for the 2nd MY of the Z35 -- that will give Nissan a chance to work out some of whatever new model bugs crop up :D

That would be awesome, the price wouldn't be :icon17:

I would be willing to pay an extra $1,000 for that option.

They have to give the next Z a big boost in HP without a huge price increase, if its going to compete against the Stang and Camaro segment. Okay, so some people in here hate those other two....I know that, But a lot of people do cross shop them and its the same segment, so accept that. About waiting? Well, like others said....if you got a sweet deal on a 14 Nismo and added twin turbos to it....that would be a killer car that could easily go against the new Stang and Camaro. But you lose thew warranty too....Nissan should offer a dealer installed blower or turbo kit for the Z, just like Ford does with the Mustang.

the next Z is more than likely coming with a 4cyl turbo and a N/A V6 from what i've read/heard so far.

^^^^ its still just speculation.

as much as it would make the whole Z community a bit angry to shy away from a 6cyl (which every Z has had) but to go with the way all other companies have went it's lookin like a 4cyl turbo is a pretty valid option.

i personally would not be a fan if it was the only option but if they leave a V6 option that would be ideal......or a wet dream of a turbo/twin turbo V6 :yum:
but that is like a 5% chance of happening lol

5% is better than 0%! :tup:

it probably is 0% i'm just being optimistic.

i know..... but bottom line though we dont know whats coming.

A 4 cylinder turbo with equivalent hp as the 370z but with 400 pounds less would be a much more enjoyable driving experience. The VQ should retire it had a great 11 to 12 year run but it's time for a refresher. The vq37 has more issues with oil burning etc then my vq35de ever had so progressively it's getting worse reliable wise. My old 350z had the same amount of oil to the drop for 7 years of me changing the oil yet this motor eats up oil.

I'm not hating the VQ as this is my 3rd Z in 12 Years but it's time for a refresh. The Z also needs to go on a serious diet and lose at least 300 pounds

i just dont see 300+BHP out of a 4cyl turbo coming in a Z. i would love it since it would probably be a pretty strong block where you could do a turbo swap and bump the HP a bunch without having to do a full bottom end forging. so it could work in the long run i guess.

If I had to bet I would say it will definitely be a 315 hp or slightly more 4 cylinder turbo with a weight of 2850 pounds with direct injection which should be able to get around 31 mpg highway 24 city. This combo also should yield a 0-60 time of around 4.2 seconds making it faster and more economical then the current Z.

Kia has a car that may come out with a 315 hp rear drive 4 cylinder turbo... I can't see nissan letting Kia win that battle.
Also tuners now are able to boost a car on higher compression successfully so the car could have a 10:5:1 ratio and be boosted at 18psi with a good size turbo but not too large to cause a big lag and achieve those numbers.

This is a lot better then shoving electric motors on an NA car like what was talked about a year or so ago.

what kinda torque are we talking about with these turbo 4 bangers?

More torque then ours 370z now... I would guesstimate 315 hp or 325 hp with 305 ft lbs of torque.

all good points. i mean it could be interesting to see what people can do with a just modding the already boosted engine. i mean i've seen some interesting number pumped out of the boosted 4 banger in the genesis coupes so i'm guessing it could be nice. plus i agree the weight saving would be lovely. for the size of the Z being around 3200lbs is a bit much. i mean the GTR is bigger and AWD but its only 3800lbs lol where is the Z hiding all that weight :bowrofl:

and no Kia will not win lol :tiphat:

The best thing will be if we start with a weight of 2800 pounds then doing race seats, forged wheels or lighter wheels, 2 piece rotors, yank out the spare, braille battery And maybe some lighter suspension and you now have a car that's 200 more pounds lighter... my 350z I had I shaved 300 pounds off and the interior was fully in tact.

stop it lol you're gonna make me want to strip mine out. but to be honest i rather the car just come lighter stock. i like being able to say when i beat higher power cars that my only weight shaving is from changing the exhaust and intakes lol

Whatever some of you guys are smoking, puff puff pass I want some ;)

If you put a 4 cylinder in a Z then it will be called a Silvia/240SX instead, which I really wish they would do, and more in the range of what is being talked about. 2800lbs or less, 4 cylinder turbo direct injection 280bhp, 270ft.lbs. 8000 redline FTW

The history of the Z has always had some sort of 6 cylinder in it, and Nissan tends to be a bit purest. It would be nice to see them put a little forced induction back in to the Z, and bring back the twin turbo, but I personally highly doubt we'll see a 4 cylinder Z in the future, but more along the lines of a new model or the rebirth of an old one.

From looking at the data of new turbo 4 cylinder motors that are being produced it would probably look something like this realistically for a 4 cylinder Z based on what is out there now, and some future motors. Most likely you would be looking at maybe 50 to 75lbs of weight reduction if you're lucky, if it's still in the Z34 chassis. A displacement size 2.0L to 2.6L, direct injection, turbo charged. No more the 300whp but mostly likely in the 270whp range. Torgue is a real guess anything from 200 ft.lbs to 300ft.lbs. depending how high strung they make it. I think we would be really lucky to the higher side of those numbers.

Right now I think the only 4 cylinder turbo gas engine Nissan has is the 1.6L MR16DDT which makes 188bhp and 177ft.lbs. and comes in the Juke, and the same motor is used as a base in the Deltawing. The only other gas turbo motor in Nissan's line up is the GT-R's VR38DETT. That might give you an idea where Nissan's head might be at.

I've seen a few 350Z's with the SR20DET which isn't the best motor but it would be fun as hell. Here's a video of one.

I was told there is almost zero weight saving between the VQ35HR and the SR20DET both weigh in at around 330lbs.

Well I was wrong it's going to be called the IDx/510 not the Silvia/240SX
Here is your 4 cylinder!
http://jalopnik.com/nissan-confirms-...o-p-1501793053
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old news bro lol

Funny, Nissan just confirmed that it is going from concept to production I believe it was yesterday, not sure how that is old news.

well you didnt mention the confirmation of production. the article said it but didnt open it. the car itself was shown a while ago. thats what i was saying. dont go and get your panties in a twist.

The weight savings won't be directly related to the engine but that should give at least a 50 pound reduction. The reduce in weight will come from a downsize car... The scion frs weighs around 2700 pounds due to the size.
Also nissan. Has this Kia stinger that will be a competitor with a 315 hp 4 cylinder turbo. ..

Nissan are looking to bring a lighter more fuel efficient car this has been spoken about by the high ups at nissan. There will be a 4 cylinder turbo and probably a v6 version offered either under the nismo brand or as a side option.

Please someone remember my prediction when nissan make a 2850 pound Z... no number just called Z. The car will have around 315 to 325 hp with a 4cyl turbo.

That Kia thing will be interesting but I'm not going to start counting chickens before they hatch on that. I remember when the genisis coupe came out, and they were saying the same stuff about that, and it really didn't make much of a wave. In the end it's still a Kia. lol

True it's a Kia so I'm not falling out of my seat but if they release that and Toyota has the frs and possibly supra and Honda is supposed to be bringing in some sports car as well then nissan need a car in that 25 to 40k range that Competes on all levels. That being looks, performance and be economical

FML The world is ending, and it's Nissan USA's fault. They have stated they are going to make the next Z weigh less (hell yes), and have four cylinders (like a bull with tits). Personally I think it will be a sad day when that happens, and I will be selling of all my Nissan's, and no longer supporting a brand that sells out.

Note to Nissan bring back the Siliva you F$ucktards not a four cylinder Z.

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Did i miss the article where the 4 cylinder turbo motor was officially confirmed, or are we still outraged over speculation in the car rags?

I might have jumped the gun a little bit, and miss read a news post (<--with stupid). It's mostly speculation, but from the sounds of it, and the other rumor mills out there it's being cosidered an option.

Here is a better article I found from a better source.

Nissan chief planning officer Andy Palmer dropped some details on this new Z:
"On a replacement for the 370Z, he said: "I know what the powertrain will be and I know it will exist. It would be reasonable to assume it will have a downsized turbo engine. There will be normal and Nismo versions."

Nissan Is Probably Cooking Up A New Turbo Z

if the next gen Z is the first to ditch the 6cyl due to "going with the times" i'm going to have a problem liking it. yes i know before the lot of you jump on me about "weight savings" and whatnot hear me out on the fact that Z has a long standing heritage. i like that about it. and a 4 banger turbo just makes me feel like i might as well hang up my balls and go buy a honda. if i wanted a baby turbo engine and stay with nissan i'd go pick up a multi-colored 240 for 2 grand and beat it around a drift track and be one of those guys. if nissan wants to jam a 4 banger turbo in something do it to that IDX and outsell the terrible FRS and BRZ. i think the IDX looks amazing and a 4 cyl turbo is ideal and perfect for it. nissan will ruin the Z for me with a 4 cyl. it would only interest me in EVER buying it IF the body was the most amazing thing i've ever seen, the interior was just spectacular, and the 4 cyl cranked out 350+bhp. if they did all that i would consider buying a 4 cyl Z. until then i say nissan can politely piss off with a 4 cyl Z idea.

end rant.

I'm with you. :iagree: I would much rather have a downsized turbo 6. Like a 3.0 l

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I just think everyone needs to put the pitchforks and torches down until there's an official press release with concrete specifics. There's one of these threads every few weeks, and people just get all kinds of pissed off about rumor and speculation.

I honestly think if they do announce the new Z, i won't come out till 2016, it'll b a concept for now

^^I'm excited to see the new Z, but I wouldn't mind our cars still being the newest Z out there. So yeah, 2016 for the Z35 is fine with me.