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NismoNox 02-27-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by isayimandrew (Post 2711713)
maybe technology package?

You are correct sir

NismoNox 02-27-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2711221)
a 7AT Nismo?! hmmmmm i like it but that cloth interior in the current model is kinda terrible lol

Same tranny as the IPL? 7AT

FPenvy 02-27-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NismoNox (Post 2711720)
Same as the IPL?

i will be honest and have no idea what exactly was in the IPL. i've only seen 1 in person and really never cared to look up its specs lol

NismoNox 02-27-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2711725)
i will be honest and have no idea what exactly was in the IPL. i've only seen 1 in person and really never cared to look up its specs lol

Lol correct me if I'm wrong, anyone?, but I believe it has the same setup as the Nismo, only heavier.

FPenvy 02-27-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NismoNox (Post 2711731)
Lol correct me if I'm wrong, anyone?, but I believe it has the same setup as the Nismo, only heavier.

performance wise yes same but IPL had all leather interior and whatnot.

VoodooZ 03-01-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2640823)
They could put the GTR engine in it.

^This, 370z Nismo GTR....such ring to it.

kenchan 03-03-2014 10:00 AM

so the 2015 is the same shape as the 2014 then?

and leasing a nismo? wtf?
AT? this is a torque converter AT or electronic clutch? :confused:

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2717106)
so the 2015 is the same shape as the 2014 then?

and leasing a nismo? wtf?
AT? this is a torque converter AT or electronic clutch? :confused:

these are questios we are all awaiting the answers to my friend lol

kenchan 03-03-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2717108)
these are questios we are all awaiting the answers to my friend lol

oh...


thanks for covering for me. :tup: :rofl2:

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2717132)
oh...


thanks for covering for me. :tup: :rofl2:

i wish i knew more lol :tiphat:

Chuck33079 03-03-2014 10:26 AM

I would hesitate before taking that guy's post as fact. I can't imagine there being enough Nismos sold to justify making more versions of it. Until I see something official, I'm going to file that under the "wild-*** speculation" we like to get into here.

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717162)
I would hesitate before taking that guy's post as fact. I can't imagine there being enough Nismos sold to justify making more versions of it. Until I see something official, I'm going to file that under the "wild-*** speculation" we like to get into here.

agreed but if you think about it they will have the transmission laying around and i they bolt a AT to a Nismo they could probably sell more.

if the nismo had a "touring" or "tech" pack plus a &at i would have bought one instead.

i wanted nav and leather. the nismo interior is terrible looking to me lol just cloth and nothing special besides the number plate.

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:30 AM

also i find it funny i found a forum jsut for the Z35 and they have less info than we have lol the370z.com wins lol

Chuck33079 03-03-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2717167)
agreed but if you think about it they will have the transmission laying around and i they bolt a AT to a Nismo they could probably sell more.

if the nismo had a "touring" or "tech" pack plus a &at i would have bought one instead.

i wanted nav and leather. the nismo interior is terrible looking to me lol just cloth and nothing special besides the number plate.

Yeah, but from an accountant's standpoint it doesn't make sense. They sell less than 10k/yr Zs of all types. People should be happy there's a Nismo at all. I'd have bought a Nismo with leather and nav (you can keep the auto), but that would be a $50k car and that's a hard sell. The last time a Z cost $50k they killed it.

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717178)
Yeah, but from an accountant's standpoint it doesn't make sense. They sell less than 10k/yr Zs of all types. People should be happy there's a Nismo at all. I'd have bought a Nismo with leather and nav (you can keep the auto), but that would be a $50k car and that's a hard sell. The last time a Z cost $50k they killed it.

valid point. and leave my auto alone lol :tiphat:

Chuck33079 03-03-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2717184)
valid point. and leave my auto alone lol :tiphat:

Well, to be fair, if this site is a valid breakdown of 7at vs 6mt owners, it's the stick that needs to worry, not the auto. Driving a manual is a vanishing skillset.

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717190)
Well, to be fair, if this site is a valid breakdown of 7at vs 6mt owners, it's the stick that needs to worry, not the auto. Driving a manual is a vanishing skillset.

mwahahahaha my evil plan is working :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

Chuck33079 03-03-2014 10:45 AM

Yep. It's part of the pussification of America.

FPenvy 03-03-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717230)
Yep. It's part of the pussification of America.

ouch lol

i would go into further battles with you but lets keep this about the Z35 and we can have our MT v AT discussion in the premium section lol :tiphat:

Chuck33079 03-03-2014 10:49 AM

Nothing more on that needs to be said. It's obvious which direction the masses are pushing car manufacturers. It doesn't make it right, but it's the way things are going. On the upside, in another ten years my car will be theft proof since no one will know how to drive a manual. :rofl2:

Volk Z 03-03-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717241)
Nothing more on that needs to be said. It's obvious which direction the masses are pushing car manufacturers. It doesn't make it right, but it's the way things are going. On the upside, in another ten years my car will be theft proof since no one will know how to drive a manual. :rofl2:

Too funny. Manuals for the win... even my crappy daily driver Jaguar x type I had was a manual. To me it's the only way to drive. We would always laugh at automatics at the races... so you have to step on the gas and hold it there until the end... wow how do you do it. Lol

As for the amount of Nismo's they will sell etc the fact is the Nismo will become more like the Sti or MR evo not limited edition more of just a version like the track model 350z.

If the new z isnt reduced in weight they have an epic failure on their hands. I remember seeing the 370z which was to be a downsized 350z but then they somehow come out heavier. We don't need 14 inch rotors, a million metal braces, use .ore aluminum and shave the weight down. I assume I will be driving the next supra. I can't see Nissan making an intelligent move here.

fuct 03-03-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717230)
Yep. It's part of the pussification of America.

hhahaha i use this term everyday. :tup:

VoodooZ 03-03-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2717241)
Nothing more on that needs to be said. It's obvious which direction the masses are pushing car manufacturers. It doesn't make it right, but it's the way things are going. On the upside, in another ten years my car will be theft proof since no one will know how to drive a manual. :rofl2:

I wouldn't go that far with it. Majority of cars are automatic. But there are some vehicles that just can't be auto or people will riot... That is why options were invented and I think that's cool.

Also I wouldn't say completely theft proof. Z gods forbid someone jacks your Z, but they could burn your clutch to bits.

NismoNox 03-04-2014 08:35 AM

Nissan announced that the new Q50 Eau Rouge Concept has/will have the 3.8L TT same setup to the GTR and announced a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine in the Q50 making 211 hp and 236 lb-ft of torque

FPenvy 03-04-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NismoNox (Post 2718789)
Nissan announced that the new Q50 Eau Rouge Concept has/will have the 3.8L TT same setup to the GTR and announced a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine in the Q50 making 211 hp and 236 lb-ft of torque

GTR engine in Eau Rouge = :yum:

211hp turbo 4 = da faq? a little bitch ford focus puts out 252hp. if thats the engine they try passing off in a new Z it'll probably be the death of the car lol

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NismoNox (Post 2718789)
Nissan announced that the new Q50 Eau Rouge Concept has/will have the 3.8L TT same setup to the GTR and announced a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine in the Q50 making 211 hp and 236 lb-ft of torque

Link?

theDreamer 03-04-2014 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718815)
Link?

The Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge Is The GT-R Sedan We've Always Wanted

2014 Infiniti Q50 Gains Turbocharged Four-Cylinder Engine In China

Looks like the Z is going down in engine size and adding a turbo, while Infiniti gets the GT-R (minus the transmission though).

FPenvy 03-04-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2718827)
The Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge Is The GT-R Sedan We've Always Wanted

2014 Infiniti Q50 Gains Turbocharged Four-Cylinder Engine In China

Looks like the Z is going down in engine size and adding a turbo, while Infiniti gets the GT-R (minus the transmission though).

yeaaaaaaaaa a 4 cyl Z with most likely less HP than it has now......if so bye bye Z car.

sadly it'll probably sell more because if they do the 4cyl it means they want the BRZ/FRS market so it'll be cheaper. and then the Z becomes another terrible car like those 2.

god i hope i'm wrong :shakes head:

that eau rouge looks sexy though lol

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 09:06 AM

Just because that turbo four makes less power doesn't mean the Z necessarily will. That's a China special, right? It would be very easy for them to make a 300hp+ turbo 4. Pretty much everyone has one now. And factory turbo motors usually have the ability to make loads more power than stock with bolt-ons and a tune. And if the car's lighter, it's going to be faster. The sky isn't necessarily falling.

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718877)
Just because that turbo four makes less power doesn't mean the Z necessarily will. That's a China special, right? It would be very easy for them to make a 300hp+ turbo 4. Pretty much everyone has one now. And factory turbo motors usually have the ability to make loads more power than stock with bolt-ons and a tune. And if the car's lighter, it's going to be faster. The sky isn't necessarily falling.

yea i'd hope they will make it more than 300hp if they go 4cyl turbo and if they dont it would be a giant mistake. i'm just saying worst case if it's a bitch car then its because of nissan wanting part of the BRZ/FRS cheap little sports car market share. thats all.

i really hope they stay true to the Z platform and just lighten it a bit and keep the V6. maybe even add a couple snails to it(even though that'll never happen with big brother GTR being around). :stirthepot:

theDreamer 03-04-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718877)
Just because that turbo four makes less power doesn't mean the Z necessarily will. That's a China special, right? It would be very easy for them to make a 300hp+ turbo 4. Pretty much everyone has one now. And factory turbo motors usually have the ability to make loads more power than stock with bolt-ons and a tune. And if the car's lighter, it's going to be faster. The sky isn't necessarily falling.

Can easily bump the power, looking into which Mercedes engine it is currently and what can be done.
I will say this though, if it is a 4 cylinder in the new Z the Z is dead. Yes it will live on, but it will be a new breed of the car in a different arena.

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 09:12 AM

The IDX is the BRZ competitor, not the Z. And for the sake of argument, if it's only 280hp but weighs 2800 lbs, it's the same power to weight ratio but would be better on tires, brakes and gas. That's a win.

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2718896)
Can easily bump the power, looking into which Mercedes engine it is currently and what can be done.
I will say this though, if it is a 4 cylinder in the new Z the Z is dead. Yes it will live on, but it will be a new breed of the car in a different arena.

:iagree:

though i pretty much said this a few posts up lol

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718900)
The IDX is the BRZ competitor, not the Z. And for the sake of argument, if it's only 280hp but weighs 2800 lbs, it's the same power to weight ratio but would be better on tires, brakes and gas. That's a win.

thats if the IDX actually is made. yes they said it probably will but lets not count our chickens here lol

i'm also going along the lines of worst case scenario.

ideally the IDX comes out and destroys those 2 horrible cars (BRZ/FRS).
the Z sticks with a V6 or sadly a 4 banger with good HP and a healthy diet.
i go buy a GTR and not care anymore about any of what i said above lol

:tiphat:

theDreamer 03-04-2014 09:18 AM

I think I found the 4 cylinder engine, it is in the Merc CLA Class: Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In regular form it is around 200HP & 250TQ, but in their AMG version it gets bumped up to 350HP & 332TQ. Looks like the engine is pretty stout and can easily be upgraded to some good numbers.

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2718917)
I think I found the 4 cylinder engine, it is in the Merc CLA Class: Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In regular form it is around 200HP & 250TQ, but in their AMG version it gets bumped up to 350HP & 332TQ. Looks like the engine is pretty stout and can easily be upgraded to some good numbers.

CLA 45 AMG 2013– 1,991 cc (121.5 cu in) I4 twin-scroll turbo (M 133 DE 20 AL), Honeywell turbocharger (180 kPa (26.1 psi))[26] 360 PS (265 kW; 355 hp)@6000 450 N·m (332 lbf·ft)@2250-5000 161-165


26psi boost?! haha see i might be able to get behind something like that :bowrofl:

theDreamer 03-04-2014 09:21 AM

Found the build notes on the AMG versions: BenzBoost - Mercedes 45 AMG models engine will be a 2.0 liter four cylinder with 26 pounds of boost stock and 354 horsepower call the M133

26lbs of boost is insane.

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2718924)

that black bendy PVC looking pipe post-turbo needs to go though lol i know you wont be able to see it but now i know its there and its ugly lol

but my word 26psi and 350hp out of a 2.0L sounds nice.

nissan needs to make note of this.

theDreamer 03-04-2014 09:26 AM

Well maybe if Nissan puts in the regular engine, they could get access or do their own version of the AMG motor for a Nismo model Z.
Standard model is mid 200HP while the Nismo gets a bump to 300+ HP along with other upgrades.

FPenvy 03-04-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2718936)
Well maybe if Nissan puts in the regular engine, they could get access or do their own version of the AMG motor for a Nismo model Z.
Standard model is mid 200HP while the Nismo gets a bump to 300+ HP along with other upgrades.

that would suck though because i would have a hard time going with a nismo because the interio in the current one was just terrible lol

buttttttttt a 18hp gain with terrible interior is easy to say no to but a 100hp gain and terrible interior i could possibly live with. maybe do a interior swap lol


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