why so many used Nismos for sale?

antfd3s · 01-03-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chops

for me...i was actually not considering any cars with leather seats. i absolutely hate them. they're cold in winter, hot in summer, and eventually start cracking and becoming harder as the leather ages. no amount of conditioner and lotion will stop it either. i prefer cloth anyday!

but i agree with the nismo exhaust...i was hoping itd be louder.

Chops, you proved my point exactly. On another note, I lived the moment when I did a leather seat swap.Ive learned that not only they weigh twice the weight. They make my back and butt itch when there heated. Lol. The only exception right now is the Jdm two tone suede Nismo seats. Best of both world plus you keep it OG.

Back on topic...... 370s are Not DD especially if you have a family. Maybe ppl realize it later after spending 40k - 30k its not as practical as they think. When you live in elements of weather this car should be parked. Sunny dry days with smooth pavement are the moments the Z outshines most cars. You can't just own a Z. You must have another vehicle. People are trading them in also cause they just can't afford the Insurance. I pay 519 a month helre in Nj! Matter of fact it cost me 1k just to drive this car a month. That's a house payment! Life is stressful enough let alone dealing with a car u can't afford and can't drive all the time. Car dealers will take full advantage of you as well. You end up regreting when you buy a car that can't handle in the rain,snow and cold climates. Most real good saleman aren't gonna tell you a Z isn't the right car. Their focus is the sale, not the blizzard outside.

Nismoracer · 01-03-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

I love the way the Nismo looks. If only it came with leather and Nav.

The japanese version comes with Nav. I wonder why the US version didn't. But the navs that you can buy fit in the center storage bin pretty nice. I had some left over foam pieces and wedged my garmin 255 in there. Looks cool. And that sucks for insurance prices. Damn I would drive something else before paying that much and just wait till my points go down.

wilsonp · 01-04-2011, 06:44 PM

I like the leather seats on mine... and my 19 year old Acura seats weren't cracked or hard - just worn out on the bolster.

I like the Nismo look a lot, but I wanted something with more features than the NSX. If I could have gotten a Nismo/Touring/Nav/7AT, that would have been my choice.

I don't think the Nismo suspension would be worse than my Bilstein/lowered NSX, and I know it wouldn't have been worse than my HKS Rally setup on my MR-2, which I daily drove for ten years. It was so stiff the mechanic asked me if I wanted it taken off after his test drive, before I had driven it!

Urbanracer · 01-05-2011, 12:39 AM

The marginal performance differences between the base/sport and the nismo are just that, marginal, which means that about 99% of the drivers on this site can't drive or will never push the car to a level where it would ever make a difference or need to make a difference. I hate to say it but I got my nismo for close to or less then what some people paid for their touring packages, and if your a guy like me that doesn't need all the extras like nav, leather, heated seats in your sports car then the nismo is a good choice. In most cases if your going to put aftermarket wheels and tires on your base/sport your pretty much at the price or exceeding the price of a nismo in some cases. Obviously we all bought the car for difference reasons or uses. So just enjoy your car, no one cares if you think you got a better deal or are out pacing a nismo at a level your not even able to drive too. Sure it would be nice if the nismo came with an extra 70hp but nissan in their infinite wisdom decided not too.

To the the OP, I think alot of people are selling for three reasons, 1) finacial difficulties, 2) impulse buy, 3) people bought it as a daily driver and found out that its not working out as nicely as they thought. I use mine as a weekend cruiser and a little track duty and its not my primary mode of transportation so it works out well for me. To me it really doesn't make sence to buy a Z without another vehicle in the household that has more passenger space and hauling abilities.

spearfish25 · 03-13-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbanracer

To the the OP, I think alot of people are selling for three reasons, 1) finacial difficulties, 2) impulse buy, 3) people bought it as a daily driver and found out that its not working out as nicely as they thought. I use mine as a weekend cruiser and a little track duty and its not my primary mode of transportation so it works out well for me. To me it really doesn't make sence to buy a Z without another vehicle in the household that has more passenger space and hauling abilities.

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money. Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

You get a plaque with your Nismo car number though, so that's gotta be worth $5k alone.

Urbanracer · 03-13-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money. Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

You get a plaque with your Nismo car number though, so that's gotta be worth $5k alone.

Nice comment but its just your opinion. Different drivers want different things in a sports car.

"Relatively less" is completely subjective in this case and is based on what one needs and desires in a car. In my case I spent less on the nismo then a sport/touring would have cost me, trading those things for a better looking Z with wheels that I wouldn't have to swap out was well worth it. Even the bose system would have been a waste since I would have replaced it. If my Z was my daily driver I would have given alot more consideration to those items, but then again buying a two seat car as a daily driver wouldn't be a smart decision on my part. Again, all comes down to ones opinion and what your needs are in a car.

Historically, limited production cars fetch a better resale then base models so there may be some value in the plaque.

To each his own, be happy with what you bought and enjoy driving it. If the car puts you in your happy place then its doing everything that it should and nothing anyone else says should ever matter.

Cell · 03-13-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money. Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

You get a plaque with your Nismo car number though, so that's gotta be worth $5k alone.

Nismoracer · 03-21-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money. Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

You get a plaque with your Nismo car number though, so that's gotta be worth $5k alone.

Every chance they get it's nismo bashing time. They are just upset that other people don't think the way they do. That peoples tastes differ. That when parked next to a nismo it nothing special looking, looks regular. When I first got my nismo I ran 5.3/13.8 just like the motorweek review. Heard all the pros say this vq engine breaks in much later. I now have over 4k miles. According to my gtech pro I now see 4.9/13.4... I could get a base vette but damm the grand sport looks so much cooler...

johnnieg · 03-31-2011, 05:23 AM

Vett ? I had one new in 05 was a total **** box... Hey a Nismo is a Nismo its different like i said before every one is driving a Camaro or Challenger today well at least on long island ..... I cant go any place with out someone asking about my car...And i do agree its not a every day driver you need a more practical car , at least in the northeast... And this is coming from a guy who has many different cars over the years.. Plus i got it cheap!!

Pelican170 · 04-01-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money. Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

You get a plaque with your Nismo car number though, so that's gotta be worth $5k alone.

You obviously dont know what your talking about. Why dont you take a look at what the body kit alone sells for. The real one, not the lesser quality one. Then the rims and other parts that it has, and you would see that you do get what you pay for...

birdmanx1 · 04-01-2011, 10:40 AM

Jumping into this argument; some people sell their nismos because they didn't do enough research to realize that the harshness, manual transmission in bad traffic, louder noise in nismos would be some they couldn't tolerate over the long run. Other reasons could be purely monetary or change in family situation I guess.

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I wonder if people also realized they paid significantly more but got relatively less for their money.

Spearfish, no hate but you are dead wrong about your statement. Most on this forum are willing to pay premium money for the upgraded Nismo rims, brakes, suspension, beautiful body kit, Nismo CBE, badging... all of which if you were to add to a base or touring would set you pretty close or above the Nismo pricing. It always amaze me the number of members with non-nismo trims longing for the nismo upgrades yet turning around and hating on the forum nismos peers

It's all Zs the Nismos just look so darn better unless you want to spend another 5k just on the body kit

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Marginal at best performance gains and no leather, no heated seats, no nav...

Forum member Jordo made some great posts about how non-nismo trims need to add CBE, TP, tune (thus more money over the nismo upgrades) just to catch up to bone stock nismos. You do the math once the Nismo also get the same CBE, TP, tune... No Nav, heated seats, bose speakers are features that can be taken care of for a very marginal cost.

I like the 370z touring but I love the nismo, on numerous occasions, random people gave the thumbs up to the nismo over the non-nismo. By now I'm sure most nismo owners are used to all the stares/flirting at stop lights and at chauffered mercedes execs, porsches, audis & bmws chasing us around just to figure what the make and model of the car is

GZ3 · 04-01-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

Spearfish, no hate but you are dead wrong about your statement. Most on this forum are willing to pay premium money for the upgraded Nismo rims, brakes, suspension, beautiful body kit, Nismo CBE, badging... all of which if you were to add to a base or touring would set you pretty close or above the Nismo pricing. It always amaze me the number of members with non-nismo trims longing for the nismo upgrades yet turning around and hating on the forum nismos peers

It's all Zs the Nismos just look so darn better unless you want to spend another 5k just on the body kit

Forum member Jordo made some great posts about how non-nismo trims need to add CBE, TP, tune (thus more money over the nismo upgrades) just to catch up to bone stock nismos. You do the math once the Nismo also get the same CBE, TP, tune... No Nav, heated seats, bose speakers are features that can be taken care of for a very marginal cost.

I like the 370z touring but I love the nismo, on numerous occasions, random people gave the thumbs up to the nismo over the non-nismo. By now I'm sure most nismo owners are used to all the stares/flirting at stop lights and at chauffered mercedes execs, porsches, audis & bmws chasing us around just to figure what the make and model of the car is

oh my god man, please! Dont flatter yourself here, lose the self righteous bit too while you are at it. The ratio of these people "longing for the nismo upgrades" is tiny, minimal, at BEST!! The meat of use know that way better parts can be had for the money, so dont generalize the masses with the few exceptions.

I dont why ANYONE would pay 2-3K for some nismo rims when you can get VOLKS for the same...basically anything coming from a nismo car i usually see bargain shoppers buying, why I dont know...better parts can be had for the price, but hey there is a sucker born every minute. And to call a Nismo Bone is stock is ridicules. It has an upgraded exhaust, a tune, and a suspicion that a change to VVEL has been made. Bone stock, no...sorry dont think so....throw a TRUE STOCK 370Z exahust and detune the nismo ECU to a TRUE STOCK 370Z tune, slap em both on a dynojet and i can promise you they will be both within 5rwhp +/- there is NOTHING special about your engine from ours. Theres is absolute no "hating" as you want to put it either, its more like: please snap out of your dream, and join the rest of us in reality, your car was not made from baby jesus DNA.

birdmanx1 · 04-01-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

And to call a Nismo Bone is stock is ridicules. It has an upgraded exhaust, a tune, and a suspicion that a change to VVEL has been made. Bone stock, no...sorry dont think so....throw a TRUE STOCK 370Z exahust and detune the nismo ECU to a TRUE STOCK 370Z tune, slap em both on a dynojet and i can promise you they will be both within 5rwhp +/- there is NOTHING special about your engine from ours. Theres is absolute no "hating" as you want to put it either, its more like: please snap out of your dream, and join the rest of us in reality, your car was not made from baby jesus DNA.

LOL dude, I'm not going to get into arguments with you nor am I pretenting to be self righteous. You just made the point I was trying to bring to spearfish about justifying the higher pricing on the nismo, oh yea if your argument is about detuning the nismo and putting the stock 370z exhaust on a nismo (Why the heck would anyone want to do it?) as a proof that the nismo is no good, I don't know what to say

You got your taste, I got mine, you love your car, I love mine period. What does baby Jesus/dream have to do with this, I've got no idea.

mick · 01-05-2011, 01:45 AM

this thread makes me think about how long i will keep my nismo

J/K

fuct · 01-05-2011, 08:15 AM

this thread is dumb. so is every other nismo vs. touring thread.

01-04-2011, 06:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 18	I like the leather seats on mine... and my 19 year old Acura seats weren't cracked or hard - just worn out on the bolster. I like the Nismo look a lot, but I wanted something with more features than the NSX. If I could have gotten a Nismo/Touring/Nav/7AT, that would have been my choice. I don't think the Nismo suspension would be worse than my Bilstein/lowered NSX, and I know it wouldn't have been worse than my HKS Rally setup on my MR-2, which I daily drove for ten years. It was so stiff the mechanic asked me if I wanted it taken off after his test drive, before I had driven it! __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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01-05-2011, 12:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Urbanracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mid-west, USA Posts: 266 Drives: God's Chariot Rep Power: 16	The marginal performance differences between the base/sport and the nismo are just that, marginal, which means that about 99% of the drivers on this site can't drive or will never push the car to a level where it would ever make a difference or need to make a difference. I hate to say it but I got my nismo for close to or less then what some people paid for their touring packages, and if your a guy like me that doesn't need all the extras like nav, leather, heated seats in your sports car then the nismo is a good choice. In most cases if your going to put aftermarket wheels and tires on your base/sport your pretty much at the price or exceeding the price of a nismo in some cases. Obviously we all bought the car for difference reasons or uses. So just enjoy your car, no one cares if you think you got a better deal or are out pacing a nismo at a level your not even able to drive too. Sure it would be nice if the nismo came with an extra 70hp but nissan in their infinite wisdom decided not too. To the the OP, I think alot of people are selling for three reasons, 1) finacial difficulties, 2) impulse buy, 3) people bought it as a daily driver and found out that its not working out as nicely as they thought. I use mine as a weekend cruiser and a little track duty and its not my primary mode of transportation so it works out well for me. To me it really doesn't make sence to buy a Z without another vehicle in the household that has more passenger space and hauling abilities.

03-31-2011, 05:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
johnnieg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ny Posts: 35 Drives: tytug Rep Power: 15	Vett ? I had one new in 05 was a total **** box... Hey a Nismo is a Nismo its different like i said before every one is driving a Camaro or Challenger today well at least on long island ..... I cant go any place with out someone asking about my car...And i do agree its not a every day driver you need a more practical car , at least in the northeast... And this is coming from a guy who has many different cars over the years.. Plus i got it cheap!!

01-05-2011, 01:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 17	this thread makes me think about how long i will keep my nismo J/K

01-05-2011, 08:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 25	this thread is dumb. so is every other nismo vs. touring thread.