Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 870237)

You weren't lied to, you just don't understand how hp can be measured. The Nismo puts out 350hp at the crank but only about 290hp to the wheels. The way car companies measure hp is at the crank, basically the advertised hp that every company uses. Hp measured at the wheels is the crank hp that is left over after going through the drivetrain. Due to friction and other forces hp is decreased as it goes through the clutch/flywheel, tranny, driveshaft, differential and eventually to the wheels. I'm not going to get too detailed, just do a google search for wheel hp vs. crank hp.

Originally Posted by antfd3s (Post 871402)

Ohhh.. ok. Thankyou for that information. So the differance is usually 60 vs the two on our cars. Not all cars are the same either then depending if they are fr ff awd? For example a GTR claims 507hp and when dyno'd it came out to 430hp thats a 77hp differance to the wheels.