V1 Nismo's appreciation?
 

Hey all!

Honestly just opening a discussion to whether or not the Version 1 Nismo's are appreciating or not. I own one and was just messing around online and see that a lot of the V1's are being bought left and right and their prices increased by 3-5K?! Do we think it will continue to appreciate over the years? (obviously slowly) And may become a JDM classic? Open to all opinions! :icon17:

They were produced for 5 years

Are you saying they should go up in price because they were only made for 5 years?

Yeap, they made 1000 a year. So there were 6000 made. All with number plates.

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Weren't they made for 6 years? 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

Huh? Increased compared to what? :icon14:

Cars are worth whatever someone is willing to pay to get one. Appreciating cars are few and far between. Even the Ferrari guys know this. Apart from the air-cooled Porsche craze, which I think is more of a cult thing than the car being that good, I don’t think our cars will be significantly appreciating any time soon. Of course, this will heavily depend on several important factors such as if there will be a next generation and what it will be like.

The NSX and the Supra are good examples of this. The original NSX actually appreciated in value once the new NSX was released because it was basically a computer on wheels and had nothing to do whatsoever with the old NSX’s pure sports car experience. This was the same situation when the new BMW Supra was released for the obvious reason, it’s a BMW.

Soooo........it’s hard to predict what will happen to V1 and V2 Nismos in the future. It’s a question of supply and demand and most of all, desirability versus any new gen Z (if there is one).

S2000 are worth more now than they were when new. Some cars just have a novelty factor. Volkswagen beetles from the 60s and 70s for example.

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Some old muscle cars too.

Look at 240Z's. Why did I ever sell mine. :mad:

Just think if you had a '70 Hemi Cuda Conv with a manual. Only 3 made. :eek:

Had a friend back in the late 70's early 80's that had a 1967 Dodge Coronet with a Hemi auto, bench front seat. Wonder if he still has it? Another friend has an Ex Sox&Martin '68 Hemi Road Runner manual. Last I heard, he still has it. I could of had this car too. :shakes head:

Here's one for you, one of my friends 60 something year old grandmother had a hemi satellite. She bought it new.

:driving:

She was the hit of the neighborhood

A Dodge Javelin or Barracuda is bank these days.

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fify

is this real?

i mean i can't fit in one so i never kept track of the market but wow

i see them all the time

Yep, one good working condition will be more $20k. You can get junk for less.

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My other car is a 5pd is300 clean title
Gonna test the appreciation in a year or so

I seen your post on Instagram, she is "fresh and clean clean."

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The biggest reason why I made this post was V1 specifically because they were numbered cars. Obviously they have very little difference compared to sport models blah blah blah but I feel like I'm seeing all V1 Nismos being taken off the market. I just moved to the UK from the US and not sure if it makes any difference but im seeing like negative V1 Nismos here and little in the US (marketwise). Honestly I'm curious if jdm value might increase LONG TERM, but I've been seeing an increase short term. I'm not saying it will happen, just stirring up some conversation regarding it.

i mean . . . you can just get the body kit and you have a nismo

You can also buy a gt3 kit for a porsche, still a carrera. You can put a gtr body kit on a r34, still a skyline.
Your point? You can fake your way visually, still fake.

:eek:

We get this all the time on the Power Wagon forum. Guys put the Power Wagon emblems on their diesels. Power Wagon only comes with a Hemi, front and rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, a 12,000 lb winch, plus full skid plates. It's a $7,000 option over a standard 2500 Ram. The reason you can't get a diesel with the Power Wagon is that the winch sits in the same location as the intercooler.

Yeap, Fake is a fake.

Ummm no. The Nismo is more than just the body kit. The differences include Nismo shocks and springs, extra body braces, bigger sway bars, chassis dampeners, true dual exhaust, Nismo exclusive seats and wheels, interior accents, engine tuning, differential gearing, etc.

Soooo......a Nismo is a Nismo.

And......fake is fake.

Sure, for the people heavily modding their cars, having a Nismo makes no difference. But for most people that will keep it stock, the Nismo offers quite a few upgrades and some exclusivity.

Could not agree more:driving:

I don't necessarily disagree but those upgrades are not significant if you are serious about performance so in all likelihood those things will be upgraded. The Nismo bracing is a plus!

I am not that guy that cares about this kind of thing. I make all my vehicles my own. Never cared about authenticity even though I do admire those cars when I see them. Just not my gig.

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none of that crap matters

if you're bumming around the street, you'll never feel it

if you're on the track, you're throwing all of that stuff in the garbage

so really . . . in practice . . . other than the body kit . . . there's no difference

no shame is saying you want the nismo for the aero. just be honest with yourself

A Nismo is nothing special. All of the upgrades are minor. Just there to distinguish. Sure maybe slightly better but not anything of great value or performance.

And you know why Nissan does that? Because there are people who will pay more for those distinguishing features. Even if they are not that great and easily copied. The market is there.

Regardless of your feelings on the matter, a stock Nismo is a liability just like 99.9% of all cars. There is some extra value there compared to a non-Nismo Z, especially to certain buyers. But the Nismo version appreciating in value is a laughable thought.

You say this now. But in 30 or so years. You might be thinking differently. Look at the 240, some of the muscle cars. Cars that was under $5K new. You can't touch for 4 times that now. Chellvelle, which would you want the 396 or the 427? Road Runner, which would you pick. The 383, the 440, or the Hemi? Who would thought about Lionel trains. :icon14:

But we're not talking about a car that was less than $5K new. We're talking about a car that's $40K new. So the appreciation has to be astronomical to compare to those cars you mention.

Give it time. The more sent to the crusher, the less on the road. How many thousands of Chellvelles was made. About 10 times if not more of the Z. Try a find a nice oem 427 Chellvelle. As for the $40,000 car today. Remember inflation. Everything goes up. You have pick up trucks knocking on the $100,000 range now.

Most of everything above hinges on how we as a people inbrace the electric car in the coming future.

I'm aware. But you realize that's like $200K for a Nismo :rofl2:

If you want to bank on that, good luck. There are better investments of course. You can always hang onto your Nismo and hope. But I'm guessing in the future that Nismo badge won't fetch significantly different than a comparable condition non-Nismo. So yeah, it's a fun sports car that in 50 years could be worth something. But until that point, it's not like it's going to slowly appreciate.

200k, that's about what I have into mine (ok, that's what it feels like). That means mines going to have to appreciate up to 400k. :rofl2: I'll be long gone before that happens. :rofl2:

For the record, $5K in 1973 adjusted for inflation is about $30K today. So a car that sold for $5K new being worth $20K today isn't exactly appreciation. More like it held value far better than most cars do.

Man its almost like you forgot all about the Rx7 Spirit R. What made it different? The fact that it was made by rhe few and a couple "upgrades" to the quality of the drive. It had nothing going for it besides being the last model of the car, yet look at them. I see unmolested/slight mods go for ove 50-70K. You're right though, nothing special about em to the ones not interested in em:rolleyes:

You're talking about a one-off upgrade model year. The Nismo model is not a comparison. It's been around for the entire duration of the Z34 lineup.

Look I'm not trying to argue that there's no way it could be. But if you're asking right now? There is no reason to think that it would be some outrageously special value in the future. Sure it'll be worth something in the years to come. Cause it's a badass car that has classic lines. But a numbered Nismo will never be anything other than slightly more valuable than a non-Nismo as a general comparison. That's just my uneducated opinion. Funny how often people like to tell me my opinion is wrong :rolleyes:

Truth. I got the V1 for the look. My wife just loves the *** on the V1 Nismo.