I enjoyed the episode this week but The Wolves randomly attacking the way they did with no explanation whatsoever was very confusing.

I agree, I didn't really care much for the format of the attack. I wish they would have had more of a buildup and then hit the fight hard. Instead we got stabby stabby stabby, Carl and Enid chilling in a house, stabby stabby stabby, Alexandrians being *******, stabby stabby stabby, Morgan being a little bitch, stabby stabby HOLY **** LOOK AT CAROL GO!!

so am I just not remembering correctly or did Enid take photos of the compound last season, and they were found in one of the wolves bags at the end of the episode. I remember someone taking pictures, I think. I'm wondering if she was sent there for recon.

I thought the same thing, but my girlfriend reminded me that Aaron had photos with him when he came across Rick's group. Wasn't there some scouts that went missing? Or maybe it was his partner? I can't remember.

It was, wasn't it.

I think the writers are just stalling for time at this point...

Even without comic spoilers, it's pretty easy to see where this season is headed... we already know the Wolves (or whatever they call themselves) are a small group -- vicious, but not an army and we have all seen the zombie herd making its way to Alexandria...

Therefore: You have a basic natural disaster story now. Build up walls to keep out the storm, fend off the scavengers (what I seem to recall the wolves were actually called in the comic, FWIW).

Then what?

Well... again, no spoilers (like it matters), but either they all die or they fend off the herd and the looters and look off heroically into the sunset.

Those are the only options. There's nowhere else for this to go. That's why the first episode was an hour and a half of shepherding the undead. There just isn't much depth or complexity to the story at this point. Its all about boarding up windows and counting ammo right now. Oh, and not making too much noise or whatever.

Actually, the most interesting part was the near rebellion by Spencer (?), which is a fairly short set of events in the comic, but very dramatic, and AMC totally glossed over it in a B&W flashback :shakes head:

Finally, although the Wolves might be a small group, they could be part of (or in competition with for survival) other, larger more organized groups. Hmmm...

And no spoiler there. We already know there's other groups (e.g., The stupid Terminus group story arc, which they mercifully concluded fairly quickly).

So, here's to hoping either everyone is killed defending Alexandria from zombies and looters (not likely, natch), or they wrap this "secure the home base" nonsense up quickly, and move along to the much more interesting, and complex stories that are just around the corner before season end.

Sooooooo I haven't watched tonight's episode yet (Panthers WIN!!!) but I will tomorrow morning... Apparently something really bad happens :(

I won't give it away, but it was an essentially unavoidable "something bad" (although they have deviated wildly from the comic before) that they chose to do in a kind of lame way.

If you haven't read the comic, you probably won't be disappointed -- it at least looks cool.

Several neat looking zombies, creepy music, interesting camera work.

All in all, despite some sloppy script writing (as in "we don't leave people behind!" five minutes after they just did... ) this episode was better paced and overall better directed.

The next FTWD looks like it might be cool.

Some rumors are saying that because of the camera angle, it may not be what we thought, but even then, I don't see that character getting out of that situation. I think it's a done deal

Holding out hope but, seeing what I saw and knowing the story line from the comics, I'm not too confident.

Side note: How long should we wait before we are allowed to talk openly about the events of the show? This is a Walking Dead thread and if you see new posts Monday morning should you know not to go in if you haven't seen the episode yet?

If he had died....he would have been on The Talking Dead, Beth was and so wee the others including Noah......I vote no death for him.

And his name wasn't in the memorial at the end of the show. Plus no way they play up Beth's ending more then this one. Not too mention AMC refuses to allow natural progression of events with this show lol. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the giant eagles from LOTR showed up to fly him away or some other asinine twist to prevent the masses from downing a bottle of valiums.

Ugh, I just read that too. I hadn't thought of that. :shakes head:

That's only worth it if they're saving him for Lucile's sweet pecks on the cheek and forehead :stirthepot:

I'd rather see Glenn "take it like a champ", as someone in a cool biker jacket once said :yum:

I liked the early days when they regularly killed off main cast members.

:bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

Okay, first off: fantastic episode. Whoever was the actor was amazing -- made his potentially tough-to-sell back story for a lesser actor absolutely believable and gripping.

I don't know who scripted that -- Kirkman or AMC hacks, but he was a completely original character and done really, really well.

And... he's dead.

So, I feel a bit... cheated? I feel like, if the AMC/Kirkman unholy alliance can occasionally pull out something of this level of excellence, why does it have to be squandered on an overly long explanation of why Morgan knows how to fight with a staff???? In the end, that's really all it was.

Oh sure, you could argue that this explains Morgan's character/motives/nature more than his fighting chops, but lets be real here: this was an unexpectedly excellently side story pissed away to explain why in the entire zombie apocalypse, hardly any of the folks who actually somehow survived has any formal had-to-hand combat training (or any other kind for that matter...), but Morgan does.

Sigh.

Well, anyway, as a "stand alone" episode, it was great, so I guess I shouldn't complain, but I wish they had saved him for FTWD or something... oh well.