Nissan 370Z Forum  

Kansas City

Originally Posted by m3chhawk Meh, not exactly true. i personally feel a road tune is the most ideal because a dyno simulates perfect conditions and you rarely get that. e-Tunes

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Regions > United States > Mid Western Region


Like Tree743Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-03-2015, 01:01 PM   #3541 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 229
Drives: 2014 370z
Rep Power: 13
victorofhavoc is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3chhawk View Post
Meh, not exactly true.
i personally feel a road tune is the most ideal because a dyno simulates perfect conditions and you rarely get that. e-Tunes are road tunes that take longer because a person isn't in the car with you. I've never let a tuner solely give me a dyno tune...it's always road then touchup low end and redline fueling a bit on the dyno
__________________
Had a 2010 WRX- boy was it quick in a straight line, got a 2014 Z- man is she grippy in the corners-- then left the Z and later got a GTI, now back in an 09 racecar Z!
victorofhavoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2015, 01:26 PM   #3542 (permalink)
Track Member
 
m3chhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 878
Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK
Rep Power: 24
m3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by victorofhavoc View Post
i personally feel a road tune is the most ideal because a dyno simulates perfect conditions and you rarely get that. e-Tunes are road tunes that take longer because a person isn't in the car with you. I've never let a tuner solely give me a dyno tune...it's always road then touchup low end and redline fueling a bit on the dyno
I don't disagree as a general statement, but the Z/UpRev doesn't have a usable air/fuel or the ability to record the knock sensor.

Also an eddy current dyno allows you to properly simulate road load coefficients.
__________________
F.I. CF CBE | Avant Garde M310 | BC BR's | ONEighty | Status | EvoR | Stillen | Whiteline | B&M | Bespoke Details
Boosted Performance | Precision Turbo | Tial | HKS | Innovate Motorsports | Bosch | Treadstone | Walbro | UpRev | Depo
m3chhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2015, 06:40 PM   #3543 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tower74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KCMO
Posts: 1,597
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Camaro
Rep Power: 369
tower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3chhawk View Post
Meh, not exactly true.
Agreed. I did this with my first turbo charged Z and it was a nightmare. You only receive a basic tuning screen and unless you know exactly what you are looking at they can screw up your car and they will not be held responsible. You really need a real tuner to see what is happening and what he is feeling. It was hard to describe some of the things happening unless you do it every day not when you are road tuning it for the first time. Hell, when I put it back to stock and loading the stock tune it almost screwed up my car because we forgot to remove the larger injectors. Leave it to the experts when it comes to tuning. Trust me.
tower74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2015, 09:47 AM   #3544 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default



A little preview
edub370, m3chhawk and Ghostvette like this.
__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley

Last edited by Gilianz; 04-05-2015 at 09:59 AM.
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2015, 02:56 PM   #3545 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 229
Drives: 2014 370z
Rep Power: 13
victorofhavoc is on a distinguished road
Default

no chatter from this page in a bit. Anyone planning on going to the autox race this weekend? race 1 of the season!
__________________
Had a 2010 WRX- boy was it quick in a straight line, got a 2014 Z- man is she grippy in the corners-- then left the Z and later got a GTI, now back in an 09 racecar Z!
victorofhavoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2015, 10:32 AM   #3546 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default

Alright, well I have to rotors on and the brake pads on. Just gotta get tires on the wheels then mount up and align them. Hopefully the bed in for the brakes are too much of a hassle. I spun the rotors after putting them on and it seemed like it was uneven. Hopefully that is just because it hasn't seated completely due to there not being tightened all the way.
__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2015, 03:35 PM   #3547 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Ghostvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Shawnee KS
Posts: 5,698
Drives: 15 Magma Red 6MT
Rep Power: 2684376
Ghostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilianz View Post
Alright, well I have to rotors on and the brake pads on. Just gotta get tires on the wheels then mount up and align them. Hopefully the bed in for the brakes are too much of a hassle. I spun the rotors after putting them on and it seemed like it was uneven. Hopefully that is just because it hasn't seated completely due to there not being tightened all the way.
Did you put enough lug nuts on to keep the rotor straight? If not, then that's why it felt uneven.

Put the wheels on, put the lug nuts on snug (don't torque yet), put the car on the ground, now torque to proper value. Press on the brake pedal a couple of times to seat the pads against the rotors before you start the car and move it. As long as you didn't get grease on the rotors when you assembled the caliper and pads to the bracket, you should be fine. I'm sure there are steps people take to 'bed' the pads, but in my experience, it's not really necessary. That being said, I wouldn't go out and try to go from 60 to zero in 3 seconds...
__________________
2015 Magma Red 6MT Sport Tech/2012 Fairlady MB 6MT Base (RIP 08032018)https://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/
Ghostvette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2015, 09:12 PM   #3548 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostvette View Post
Did you put enough lug nuts on to keep the rotor straight? If not, then that's why it felt uneven.

Put the wheels on, put the lug nuts on snug (don't torque yet), put the car on the ground, now torque to proper value. Press on the brake pedal a couple of times to seat the pads against the rotors before you start the car and move it. As long as you didn't get grease on the rotors when you assembled the caliper and pads to the bracket, you should be fine. I'm sure there are steps people take to 'bed' the pads, but in my experience, it's not really necessary. That being said, I wouldn't go out and try to go from 60 to zero in 3 seconds...
Yeah, I put the wheels back on so I can drive to the shop. They straightened out. And I plan to just daily drive to bed them in. There is not many places i can go from 60 to 20 constantly in KC.
__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2015, 09:40 AM   #3549 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 229
Drives: 2014 370z
Rep Power: 13
victorofhavoc is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilianz View Post
Yeah, I put the wheels back on so I can drive to the shop. They straightened out. And I plan to just daily drive to bed them in. There is not many places i can go from 60 to 20 constantly in KC.
Freeway ramps on i70 would work just fine...I used them for this purpose.

There are some pads/rotors that don't need a bed in process, and some really do. If yours do and you daily drive it without bed in, you'll notice some discoloration that looks like warping on the rotor. The only thing it will do is age your rotors faster (how much is arguable). If you ever track the car you'll notice some pedal vibration that will feel like brake fade, but isn't.
__________________
Had a 2010 WRX- boy was it quick in a straight line, got a 2014 Z- man is she grippy in the corners-- then left the Z and later got a GTI, now back in an 09 racecar Z!
victorofhavoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 04:01 AM   #3550 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default

Alright, well here is the finished product. Also has anyone added a fog light to their Z yet? I'm thinking it would be something cool to add but looks complicated with all the wiring needed to be done.

__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 08:59 AM   #3551 (permalink)
Track Member
 
m3chhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 878
Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK
Rep Power: 24
m3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond reputem3chhawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Looks really good dude.

The fog light is easy. You just need to pull one of the tail lights. There is a DIY floating around on here that shows you which wires to tap. Just get a couple of high quality, insulated in-line wire taps and you won't have any issues.
__________________
F.I. CF CBE | Avant Garde M310 | BC BR's | ONEighty | Status | EvoR | Stillen | Whiteline | B&M | Bespoke Details
Boosted Performance | Precision Turbo | Tial | HKS | Innovate Motorsports | Bosch | Treadstone | Walbro | UpRev | Depo
m3chhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2015, 05:32 PM   #3552 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default

Hmm, so I'm entertaining the idea of selling my Tomei and going for a full replica partial carbon Zele and custom exhaust, If the guy hadn't sold it yet. My question is how much do you think it would be to get it painted? Unfortunately my car is not silver so would like to know before I make any decisions.
__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2015, 08:39 AM   #3553 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tower74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KCMO
Posts: 1,597
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Camaro
Rep Power: 369
tower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond reputetower74 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilianz View Post
Hmm, so I'm entertaining the idea of selling my Tomei and going for a full replica partial carbon Zele and custom exhaust, If the guy hadn't sold it yet. My question is how much do you think it would be to get it painted? Unfortunately my car is not silver so would like to know before I make any decisions.
Hmmm. I've still have a REAL rear ZELE rear never installed. I will almost give it away to get it out of my house. Hell, I will even deliver it...if it isn't to far.


When I had the front Zele installed, it cost me about $500 for them to paint the front. I also preinstalled it before giving it to them. That way they couldn't charge me for installation or fitment issues.
tower74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2015, 01:07 PM   #3554 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Gilianz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salina
Posts: 379
Drives: 11 370z MB
Rep Power: 13
Gilianz is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tower74 View Post
Hmmm. I've still have a REAL rear ZELE rear never installed. I will almost give it away to get it out of my house. Hell, I will even deliver it...if it isn't to far.


When I had the front Zele installed, it cost me about $500 for them to paint the front. I also preinstalled it before giving it to them. That way they couldn't charge me for installation or fitment issues.
Hmm, well I would be all over that however I have a tomei that just would not fit unless some things were done to the bumper.
__________________
Takeda CAI : FI Resonated TP : Stillen UD Pulley
Gilianz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2015, 02:03 PM   #3555 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 229
Drives: 2014 370z
Rep Power: 13
victorofhavoc is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilianz View Post
Hmm, well I would be all over that however I have a tomei that just would not fit unless some things were done to the bumper.
easier to mod the exhaust than the bumper. There have been several people around the forums to make their dual tip into a quad to fit the Zele rear
__________________
Had a 2010 WRX- boy was it quick in a straight line, got a 2014 Z- man is she grippy in the corners-- then left the Z and later got a GTI, now back in an 09 racecar Z!
victorofhavoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2009 370Z Touring w/Sports - Solid Red - Kansas City, MO microday 370Z For Sale 2 11-16-2011 03:43 AM
Hello from Oklahoma City! JoshW New Forum Member 9 05-07-2011 11:22 PM
Cin City, OH..... The Collector New Forum Member 7 11-07-2009 10:26 PM
Hello from Sin City B_K Introduction 4 02-26-2009 10:36 PM
Hello from Sin City! B_K New Forum Member 7 02-26-2009 04:12 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2