GTM SC build supporting mod requirements

takjak2 · 05-29-2013, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster

A SC is not about show it is about GO!!!

you can't even tell it is supercharged unless you really know what to look for.

I have a "stock" trophy from Zdays to prove it...

When DM asks if he needs an oil cooler, it's a show car. A damn fine show car.

dmhenderson · 05-30-2013, 12:11 PM

So I talked to Sam at GTM and he tells me the z1 34 row cooler won't fit with their sc kit. He's gonna get me a revised quote with their add-on solution.

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dmhenderson · 05-30-2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2

When DM asks if he needs an oil cooler, it's a show car. A damn fine show car.

It's a show car I want to have some fun with.

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dmhenderson · 05-30-2013, 01:14 PM

So anyway, does that sound right to those of you running the GTM SC? I can't run the Z1 cooler? Still waiting on a revised quote from Sam.

SS_Firehawk · 05-30-2013, 01:28 PM

Idk about the Z1 oil cooler, but I know I'm worried about mine too... It's definitely large enough to do the job, maybe too large to fit without fabricating new brackets and finding a new place to put it.

eastwest2300 · 05-30-2013, 01:46 PM

Nice engine man! wow..

dmhenderson · 05-30-2013, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

too large to fit without fabricating new brackets and finding a new place to put it.

That's exactly what Sam said. You will have to fabricate new brackets and throw out half of the hardware that comes with it because of the fact that you have to move the oil filter to the other side of the engine bay.

GTM offers a build-on solution - waiting on revised quote.

(whoever said to call that guy, thank you)

dmhenderson · 05-30-2013, 06:26 PM

Sam also pointed out that any relocation kit for the oil cooler would likely mount it in front of the passenger side wheel well which would make me have to choose between my brake ducts and the cooler which is no good.

theDreamer · 05-31-2013, 08:43 AM

My oil cooler is on the driver side wheel well just under the headlight for reference.
I think with the intercooler design, it is to close to the radiator, not allowing any other coolers between the intercooler & radiator like with the turbo systems. Along with the piping the only place for us to put additional coolers is on the edges.

dmhenderson · 06-01-2013, 11:14 AM

Won't fit there because of my brake duct kit.

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SS_Firehawk · 06-01-2013, 12:05 PM

Well, my oil cooler won't work anymore

Sigh... or the brand new CSF radiator, or my new red Z1 tubes. This sucks.

Chuck33079 · 06-01-2013, 12:07 PM

The radiator doesn't work with the twin intercoolers? That seems odd.

SS_Firehawk · 06-01-2013, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The radiator doesn't work with the twin intercoolers? That seems odd.

Yeah... For anyone looking at the twin superchargers...

"Next, the CSF radiator will not work since the water neck is a one piece setup whereas the stock radiator is a two piece setup. That means the water neck on the CSF radiator will interfere with the supercharger on the passenger side. We have a special elbow that replaces the stock elbow to give clearance between the water neck and the supercharger. Since the CSF is a one piece elbow, we can't use our elbow. Also, we use different radiator hoses to clear the supercharger brackets, belts and pulleys so your silicone radiator hoses won't work either."

This is from GTM

dmhenderson · 06-01-2013, 01:35 PM

I have to ditch my Z1 hoses? I mean yeah I guess the MAF breather tube would have to go but the rest?

Chuck33079 · 06-01-2013, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Yeah... For anyone looking at the twin superchargers...

"Next, the CSF radiator will not work since the water neck is a one piece setup whereas the stock radiator is a two piece setup. That means the water neck on the CSF radiator will interfere with the supercharger on the passenger side. We have a special elbow that replaces the stock elbow to give clearance between the water neck and the supercharger. Since the CSF is a one piece elbow, we can't use our elbow. Also, we use different radiator hoses to clear the supercharger brackets, belts and pulleys so your silicone radiator hoses won't work either."

This is from GTM

That actually makes a lot of sense. That really sucks though.

05-30-2013, 12:11 PM	#137 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	So I talked to Sam at GTM and he tells me the z1 34 row cooler won't fit with their sc kit. He's gonna get me a revised quote with their add-on solution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

05-30-2013, 01:14 PM	#139 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	So anyway, does that sound right to those of you running the GTM SC? I can't run the Z1 cooler? Still waiting on a revised quote from Sam. __________________

05-30-2013, 01:28 PM	#140 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Idk about the Z1 oil cooler, but I know I'm worried about mine too... It's definitely large enough to do the job, maybe too large to fit without fabricating new brackets and finding a new place to put it. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

05-30-2013, 01:46 PM	#141 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,864 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Nice engine man! wow.. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

05-30-2013, 06:26 PM	#143 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	Sam also pointed out that any relocation kit for the oil cooler would likely mount it in front of the passenger side wheel well which would make me have to choose between my brake ducts and the cooler which is no good. __________________

05-31-2013, 08:43 AM	#144 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	My oil cooler is on the driver side wheel well just under the headlight for reference. I think with the intercooler design, it is to close to the radiator, not allowing any other coolers between the intercooler & radiator like with the turbo systems. Along with the piping the only place for us to put additional coolers is on the edges. Kirkster likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-01-2013, 11:14 AM	#145 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	Won't fit there because of my brake duct kit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

06-01-2013, 12:05 PM	#146 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Well, my oil cooler won't work anymore Sigh... or the brand new CSF radiator, or my new red Z1 tubes. This sucks. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

06-01-2013, 12:07 PM	#147 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The radiator doesn't work with the twin intercoolers? That seems odd. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-01-2013, 01:35 PM	#149 (permalink)
dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 26	I have to ditch my Z1 hoses? I mean yeah I guess the MAF breather tube would have to go but the rest? __________________

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