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Originally Posted by dmhenderson If the Ark exhaust was that much better than the FI system, no one would buy FI. That doesn't make sense to me. Its really because

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Old 04-01-2013, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If the Ark exhaust was that much better than the FI system, no one would buy FI. That doesn't make sense to me.
Its really because FI has a lot of hype. Ask a lot of the people who have an ark. They wouldn't trade it for anything. Personally the sound is just better to me. not even the sound as a whole. Little things like flutters on down shifts and the sound when the flood gates open at 4k. FI is great they make really good stuff hence me having their headers. I just think the Ark is the better exhaust mostly because of x pipe placement
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Its really because FI has a lot of hype. Ask a lot of the people who have an ark. They wouldn't trade it for anything. Personally the sound is just better to me. not even the sound as a whole. Little things like flutters on down shifts and the sound when the flood gates open at 4k. FI is great they make really good stuff hence me having their headers. I just think the Ark is the better exhaust mostly because of x pipe placement
Eh. I dunno. I looked at both before I went with FI. Ark, FI and Stillen were the 3 I really looked at (Berk sounds awful and Meisterschaft was just too damn expensive). If you can show me empirical data somewhere that shows the Ark grip is superior to the FI, I'd be really surprised.

Edit: I mean, if you're right and the FI exhaust is "a lot of hype", there are other gearheads on the forum that would have ripped it to pieces by now...right?
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U just said aam has a awd mustang dyno
Nope. I said a Mustang is the one that reads low. Just looked at my dyno sheet to double check, DynoJet.

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Eh. I dunno. I looked at both before I went with FI. Ark, FI and Stillen were the 3 I really looked at (Berk sounds awful and Meisterschaft was just too damn expensive). If you can show me empirical data somewhere that shows the Ark grip is superior to the FI, I'd be really surprised.

Edit: I mean, if you're right and the FI exhaust is "a lot of hype", there are other gearheads on the forum that would have ripped it to pieces by now...right?
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Then why haven't you gotten it tuned to see where you're at?
That was the plan homie. Akumas +tune with vvel beta. But you know turbo. Why spend $1200 for all of that just to undo it in a few months?


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Eh. I dunno. I looked at both before I went with FI. Ark, FI and Stillen were the 3 I really looked at (Berk sounds awful and Meisterschaft was just too damn expensive). If you can show me empirical data somewhere that shows the Ark grip is superior to the FI, I'd be really surprised.

Edit: I mean, if you're right and the FI exhaust is "a lot of hype", there are other gearheads on the forum that would have ripped it to pieces by now...right?
Sadly the paperwork just doesn't exist. Once a trend starts it steam rolls. Everyone knows FI is proven and newcomers get on the forum and everyone crams it down their throats.

I'm not even saying FI is bad? I'm just saying its highly recommended so no one cares to try one off setups. FI is amazing and has proven results. Its a good exhaust system with great gains.
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That was the plan homie. Akumas +tune with vvel beta. But you know turbo. Why spend $1200 for all of that just to undo it in a few months?

$1200?! Where are you getting that number? AAM is $599 for tune right now. Plus, if you get the tune, it will be one less thing you'll have to buy later on after you get your kit...



Sadly the paperwork just doesn't exist. Once a trend starts it steam rolls. Everyone knows FI is proven and they get on the forum and everyone crams it down their throats.

I'm not even saying FI is bad? I'm just saying its highly recommended so no one cares to try one off setups. FI is amazing and has proven results. Its a good exhaust system with great gains.
Ark really didn't do anything but ripoff the HKS design. Sorry to say...

I agree that there isn't much of a market for homemade stuff, but at the same time, most people who get a 30+k car don't wanna take it to bobs exhaust shop for a $150 exhaust... (not saying that's what you're doing, but just using it as reference)

I want you to hit 330, don't get me wrong. It will show me the reason I'm not is because something is wrong = needs fixing. Rather than "It's running fine, it just runs low" because right now that answer is not sitting well with me. Based on what I've seen with others, my numbers are low for a reason. And if you can tag it, it's possible.
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I'd like to see what you guys would get on mcnews mustang dyno. Would be interesting for sure
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I'd like to see what you guys would get on mcnews mustang dyno. Would be interesting for sure
My previous Dyno's were on a Mustang.

And with K&N Drop Ins, MAF Tubes, Headers and CBE, and Pulleys, I did 284whp with no tune.
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Mustang is lowww. Aka a heart breaker dyno.


Chris Idk man you may be surprised. No one has my setup. Same things were being said with the momentums
So my 324 on a mustang is low?!?!

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It was 324 on a DynoJet bud. Not a mustang.
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The answer is: Test pipes.

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i dont care what you duuudes say. I fricken love the ARK exhaust, rip off or not, its sexy as sh1t, and it sounds fricken awesome. Just saying.
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i dont care what you duuudes say. I fricken love the ARK exhaust, rip off or not, its sexy as sh1t, and it sounds fricken awesome. Just saying.
Haha that's what Im saying. It sounds so good that I wouldn't care if I have 0 gains from it.
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Haha that's what Im saying. It sounds so good that I wouldn't care if I have 0 gains from it.
hahaha, hell when I got my tune done, the tech said I had very nice gains from the few mods that I've done..

and actually when I was dealing with my o2 sensor, I had to take the Z to an exhaust shop and they were ranting and raving about my exhaust.. they fricken loved it.
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