The photo album looked great though. Yours and your friends.

Thanks Kai, I used to be really into photography. I kind of lost interest for a while but I want to start again.

No problem. I give credit where it's due.

Cars and Coffee on the 16th. Me and Robin are going. I'd suggest that and hang around somewhere up there for lunch and head back. That's my last thing pretty much until after Xmas... so...yeah.

Yeah that's all old rumored crap. The unveiling is always less than what we want and for a price no one agrees with. I'm not holding my breath. But IF it turns out to be a player, then yeah, I'm putting my deposit down. And no, I don't like the R35. I was going to wait for the R36 but it almost seems like they're going to milk this one for all it's worth. I don't see a new model before 2017. And I'm not waiting. Nissan is making a bad habit of running these way too long without a refresh. It shows me that they lack in any motivation to design/redesign a sports car that is a decent price for the average Joe.

You either pay $100k+ for a GTR, or you get a Z or an Altima. Pretty crappy imo. No wonder the FRS is kicking *** even with such little power out the door. The supercharger option is $5k. And voila! Fast car. Nissan needs to get their heads into the game. This one-size-fits-all sports car concept is overplayed. Also, they went from an $80k production car to over $100k with not more than a 55hp total increase throughout the years. Kinda ********. $20k. 55hp. Hmmmmm... Well! It ain't my ******* problem. I didn't waste my money on one. :tup:

Like onelownismo said earlier I plan on keeping the 370 for a while, I have no plans to sell it. Eventually I would like it to be my weekend car not my DD. That point is when I will track it a lot more. It's a really good base to work with if your willing to take the time and spend the money. I don't think it's too impressive from the factory though. There are better platforms out there if one wants out of the box performance. And Nissan really does ride a design until it's played out. The Z is in desperate need of a makeover. They can either water it down and make it cheaper or beef it up and charge a little more. I personally hope for the latter of the two but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I wouldn't be surprised if the current Z is as performance based as it gets. We'll see though.

I think what happened there is that Nissan stopped building the "base" model GT-R. I remember when the GT-R first came out there was 2 different models. The GT-R and GT-R "Premium". I can't remember the differences but I think it was about a $10k-15k difference in price (depending on options). If you build a 2014 GT-R on Nissan's website the only non-special version/edition is the "Premium". I guess the base model GT-R wasn't selling so they ditched it.

It would be like Nissan getting rid of the base model and non-sport package touring Zs.

Any way...if I had the money I would get a Track Edition GT-R.
Nissan/NISMO brought a preproduction Track Edition GT-R in Gun Metallic to this past ZDayZ. :drool:
I have driven a GT-R and IMO it is worth the price.

All well and good. But it has still become a little long in the tooth, much like the 370. Five years. That's it. Move on. And I still can't see how they can justify the price. It's almost like their lap times are the only things selling those cars and that's how they justify the price. I think this is the only point where we get to agree to disagree. I think it is a $65-70k car at best. But again, that's just my opinion.

Is this the Richmond, Williamsburg, or VB C&C??

Well then you may be confused about what you're looking at. You're talking about a car that puts SUPER cars to shame. A car that FORCED big name car companies to produce a car that can beat it. And they did..for 4-5 times the amount of a GTR.. Sure those super cars have plenty luxurious interiors...but I'm almost positive nobody buys a lambo for the interior. So...yeah, you might be confused. Not that I'm a fan of the GTR. I think it's ugly as hell. But as far as performance? It's worth the money you're paying hands down.

Pretty sure it's williamsburg. They were talking about in another thread I believe.

Barbara and I are in too! Just due to where everyone pretty much lives it might be easier to meet in Hampton depending on if everyone's going. Or at least closer to the HRBT. Whatever works for everyone.

I agree. It is definitely time for the R36 and Z35 to be released.

Yep, that is the whole point of the current GT-R. Supercar performance with out the supercar price. I'm not saying $100K is cheap but considering that it competes with cars like the Ferrari 458 Italia ($240K) and the Lexus LFA ($375K) performance wise, $100K is a relative bargain. I will admit that it isn't the best looking car out there but, I wouldn't call it ugly.

I'll say it again. Agree to disagree. I'm not confused. So before you ostracize me over an OPINION understand that I simply don't see anything big about it.

The car itself is not a marvel. It's the computer programming that makes the car. All you have to do is point the wheel. I'm not sure why any purist would even care for a Maxima with AWD and twin turbochargers. Seriously. You want lap times, get a GTR. You want real fun? Don't. The ONLY comments I've heard from people who've driven the GTR are "it's a blast to drive" or "it's so fast". Whoopie-do. Everything else from what I hear is boring. It takes all of the fun out of driving.

All I want is a small, two-seater, light, fast, AWD vehicle. I'm hoping someone is going to deliver.

Is there anything else you'd like to try to bash me for over this opinion? I mean, while we're calling each other out over a forum and all... :ugh2: