M.Bonanni Project 370Z V3.0 | Clean Slate

M.Bonanni · 03-21-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

I almost pulled the trigger on a used Z06 from the Bondurant school. They wanted $12K after 1 year of track abuse.

That could be an awesome deal or a crappy deal haha. The thing I don't like about the Z06 is the aluminum frame. Makes it a royal pain in the *** to do a roll cage since you can't weld the steel cage to the aluminum frame. You have to sleeve it through the frame, cap it on both sides, bolt on any gusseting, etc. It can be done by the right cage builder, but it wont be cheap. Plus you can make plenty of NA power with the LS2/LS3 anyway and you can buy Z06 or ZR1 front/rear fenders that bolt right on for extra tire clearance. The only big advantage to the Z06 is that it already comes with a halfway decent dry sump system. Long story short, for the price difference you normally get between the regular C6 and the Z06 you can probably build a better standard model for the same amount of money as buying the stock Z06.

chknhawk · 04-25-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Bonanni

That could be an awesome deal or a crappy deal haha. The thing I don't like about the Z06 is the aluminum frame. Makes it a royal pain in the *** to do a roll cage since you can't weld the steel cage to the aluminum frame. You have to sleeve it through the frame, cap it on both sides, bolt on any gusseting, etc. It can be done by the right cage builder, but it wont be cheap. Plus you can make plenty of NA power with the LS2/LS3 anyway and you can buy Z06 or ZR1 front/rear fenders that bolt right on for extra tire clearance. The only big advantage to the Z06 is that it already comes with a halfway decent dry sump system. Long story short, for the price difference you normally get between the regular C6 and the Z06 you can probably build a better standard model for the same amount of money as buying the stock Z06.

Sorry I am checking in late... but not being able to weld steel and aluminum together is not entirely true. Although it might be expensive as hell there is a way. Developed by honda called friction stir welding.

here is the link friction Stir Welding. And great blog/post on your car. I just spent the better part of my afternoon reading your whole log. Nice work and I think it is really cool that you have so much backing from sponsors in the community. I am working on my first track/autox season at the moment. Been around cars and races all my life but never got the opportunity to try it. We will see how it goes. Thanks for all the info though!

oh.. and if your going to buy that porsche up there .. you might as well just get a GTR. Cheaper and faster.

M.Bonanni · 04-25-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chknhawk

Sorry I am checking in late... but not being able to weld steel and aluminum together is not entirely true. Although it might be expensive as hell there is a way. Developed by honda called friction stir welding.

here is the link friction Stir Welding. And great blog/post on your car. I just spent the better part of my afternoon reading your whole log. Nice work and I think it is really cool that you have so much backing from sponsors in the community. I am working on my first track/autox season at the moment. Been around cars and races all my life but never got the opportunity to try it. We will see how it goes. Thanks for all the info though!

oh.. and if your going to buy that porsche up there .. you might as well just get a GTR. Cheaper and faster.

Thanks! That friction stir welding is pretty cool! Still thought, the rulebooks require the sleeving method. Hopefully they will approve that method one day though. Good luck on your first season!

Rusty · 04-25-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chknhawk

Sorry I am checking in late... but not being able to weld steel and aluminum together is not entirely true. Although it might be expensive as hell there is a way. Developed by honda called friction stir welding.

here is the link friction Stir Welding. And great blog/post on your car. I just spent the better part of my afternoon reading your whole log. Nice work and I think it is really cool that you have so much backing from sponsors in the community. I am working on my first track/autox season at the moment. Been around cars and races all my life but never got the opportunity to try it. We will see how it goes. Thanks for all the info though!

oh.. and if your going to buy that porsche up there .. you might as well just get a GTR. Cheaper and faster.

Taking the thread off track abit. Friction Stir Welding is old news. Been doing that since the '70's, with aluminum since the '90's. The company I used to work for, Elliott TurboMachinery. I help in developing TIG welding aluminum to steel overlay.

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