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Old 09-17-2014, 08:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are those numbers at the crank or wheels?
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Are those numbers at the crank or wheels?
Crank

Oh, and they use a dynojet
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Off to get tuned tomorrow. Anyone care to guess on numbers?

For reference, OEM numbers are 405 HP/400 lb-ft. Mods are shorty headers, HFCs, x-pipe, cat-back, intake.

I don't know what type of dyno they use, fwiw.
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Crank

Oh, and they use a dynojet
Ima gonna say 415 whp and 390 rwt
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Ima gonna say 415 whp and 390 rwt
I love the confidence!

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I went to this Hot Rod Mag site

Chassis Dyno Guide

went to the last page, calculated some percentages based on facts not really in evidence and came up with some numbers. I dunno. Many variables. What's the barometer reading today?
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Haha. He's 10lbs
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Alright, so I picked up about 7 HP and 12 torque to the wheels with the tune. Peak numbers weren't what anyone thought (and admittedly, even I was aiming high.) Likely due to 1) less HP from mods than anticipated, 2) higher drivetrain loss than anticipated, 3) a factor of both.

Likely, the answer was #3. Ended up with 370 WHP/362 torque in the end, which is right where it should be. Some more research yielded some mild cam cars that havent even broken 400 WHP, so I didnt feel bad.

Butt dyno approves of the tune - power band feels much smoother and responsive.
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Alright, so I picked up about 7 HP and 12 torque to the wheels with the tune. Peak numbers weren't what anyone thought (and admittedly, even I was aiming high.) Likely due to 1) less HP from mods than anticipated, 2) higher drivetrain loss than anticipated, 3) a factor of both.

Likely, the answer was #3. Ended up with 370 WHP/362 torque in the end, which is right where it should be. Some more research yielded some mild cam cars that havent even broken 400 WHP, so I didnt feel bad.

Butt dyno approves of the tune - power band feels much smoother and responsive.
I guess the old mantra "there's no replacement for displacement" isn't really valid in this case...

Definitely lower numbers than I would have guessed. Then again your car weighs as much as Steve's cat.
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I guess the old mantra "there's no replacement for displacement" isn't really valid in this case...

Definitely lower numbers than I would have guessed. Then again your car weighs as much as Steve's cat.
I guess you'll have to hit their dyno as well, so we can get an idea how much less you have.



Jk, it is a load bearing dyno, so I'd compare it to a Mustang dyno. And in the end, who cares: it's just another dyno :-p
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I guess you'll have to hit their dyno as well, so we can get an idea how much less you have.



Jk, it is a load bearing dyno, so I'd compare it to a Mustang dyno. And in the end, who cares: it's just another dyno :-p
If my car is going on the rollers again (which it will soon) it's gonna be at Moore to see what the Steeda tune actually gave me at the rear wheels since that's where I got my baseline
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If my car is going on the rollers again (which it will soon) it's gonna be at Moore to see what the Steeda tune actually gave me at the rear wheels since that's where I got my baseline
Well that just gives me more excuse fuel. "It was a different dyno!". " the weather was different that day! ".

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Chris is super talented. You'll do well there I'm sure. They had a viper on the dyno last time I was up there.


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