I was close lol now with more and more software changes and other minor tweaks in the 13,14,15s I get some tid bits confused.

i'm only human lol thank you for the correction though :tiphat:

Hey I was as surprised as you were. Guy is a sales guy for my company and I was bitching the other day about paying $1600 for a new clutch and he said "Jesus Mark, just buy the freaking GTR already". I listed that warranty issue as one of the reasons why not to and he filled me in.

Good to know I guess. Consumer backlash actually did something constructive for a change.

you should get a GT-R :yum:

everyone should have a GT-R lol

This fall likely. I'm done waiting for the 36. The '16 looks really sharp.

:yum:

very nice. i'm excited for you to finally get one. :tiphat:

A hassle-free ownership experience awaits! :driving:

:iagree:

Should be more enjoyable and less of a hassle than the Z.

Edited for accuracy. I won't be modding the 35 past an exhaust/intake and maybe a tune. I am fed up with this ****.
Lessons learned from owning a tuner car:
-Do **** yourself
or
-Don't own a tuner car

Even if you do it all yourself, you're going to run up against situations you can't fix with a jack and a wrench and then it'll sit in some speed shop's garage for 2 months because they don't make money (proportionally) off your special snowflake car either. Speed shops make money off of exhaust installs, tunes etc. They don't make money banging around inside your engine bay for 10 hours charging you labor only while they try to figure out why on earth they can't get your new injectors to play nice with your fuel pump and "oh hey lol no one has ever done this before" so better get on the phone with a few other shops so we can all try to figure out how to get this thing to run without buckling the hood.

If I sound bitter it's because I am.

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For the record, this is how the E85 conversion went:
-March of 2014 "Hey this would be neat"

-Drop car off in June a little ahead of schedule because un-traceable oil leak made me nervous

-Nothing

-More nothing

-Car gets on dyno early August and goes berserk. Fuel pressure spikes well into the danger zone. Car overheats, knock sensor trips. Idle fuel pressure 2x+ what it should have been. Fuel pressure bottoms out under load.

-Meeting of the minds between Concept Z, Hills and either Zspeed or that other place down south (I forget the name).

-Determined that stock fuel system crapped itself and just couldn't handle 1000cc injectors and the bigger AEM fuel pump.

-Regulator overloaded and rails just can't keep up. Entire OEM fuel system ripped out of the car.

-Full stage 2 fuel return system purchased. Concept Z asks me for pictures of the install because they (I s you not) did not have any install photos yet. At that time, I was literally the only idiot to attempt this that they had run across.

-Fuel return system works. Car decides to play nice

-Morning the car is supposed to go on the dyno for re-tune, massive oil leak resurfaces

-Oil pan pulled. Turns out the little spring/ball bearing pressure valve thingy in my oil pan is just...gone. Oil has been recirculating through the motor without even touching the filter (lol!). Missing pieces of spring valve thing are nowhere to be found. This is...cause for concern. Hill's managed to drop the oil pan without pulling the entire engine (for which I am eternally grateful).

-ALL OIL LINES ripped out of the car back to the filter to find out where the missing ball bearing and spring went. Only way to be sure, right?

-Pieces nowhere to be found! Hooray for wasting money. Best guess is that it fell apart when the supercharger was installed and no one said anything? I'm done trying to blame shops for this stuff. Clearly someone is at fault here but ultimately, it's me because I keep ******* with the car.

-The best part? Hey I got to buy a new oil pan too because the little thing that holds that pressure release valve isn't sold stand-alone by Nissan! Frank tried hard to remove the little valve thingy with pliers without damaging it and gouged the hell out of his hand in the process. New oil pan ahoy andhauHAFUhuasdhaughaugh

-I literally flipped **** and yelled at two very nice people who have taken very good care of my car (I felt terrible afterwards). Frank and Suzanne literally run one of (if not the) best Z tuner shops on the east coast.

-Got car back right before Christmas.
....

Now the clutch is eating itself. I had initially pegged the clutch replacement (with labor) to be under $1000

...

Ahahaha. Looking more like $2500 with the SB stage 3 daily kit I need plus labor. Oh and because Nissan is retarded, you have to replace the CMC when you replace the clutch. 90% fail when depressurized because....reasons!

^^^I got rid of my Evo for the same concept. I went full bolt ons and a tune (granted, its nothing even remotely close to all you had done, nor was it in the shop near as long as your car was) and it ran like crap and was coming back to the shop every other month. CEL's, leaning out while idle, surging, pretty much all driveability went to ****. I returned it to stock and traded it in for a new Challenger scat pack which im keeping 100 percent stock, I was fed up with modding.

Now it sits here where it has been for the past two months.... Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution TC-SST MR in Manassas VA | Used Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution near Chantilly & Centreville | Stock: M50713A

In regards to GTRs and warranties, there's a thread on that forum about warranty stories, what happened, whether it was warrantied or not, and how they got to that point. The moral of that thread is, there is no black and white with Nissan warranties, especially with the GTR as they know how expensive it is to replace stuff. So cars who are modded beyond bolt ons and tune, have had trans replaced because they were close with the service manager, to cars that are almost bone stock that were denied warranty work.

You don't understand how many times I had to explain this when I was at AAM, and of course it would just be easiest to say yes or no, but the reality is, there is no definite answer besides keep your car bone stock and leaving traction control on lol

Launching a GTR in anything but R-R-OFF you might well just roll off the line, all it'll do is bog, but everyones afraid to launch with traction control off, bunch of babies lol

Edit: I've been out of the GTR hype for over a year now so I'm sure there are a lot of nice aftermarket launch control softwares. I know EcuTek did an awesome job with their launch that would detech slip, and tether power accordingly. I'm sure they've advanced even more in the last year (and or Cobb caught on). However I believe all of this requires traction control to be turned off

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I've learned my lesson. I'll be happy owning a good looking car with a nice exhaust note (that has a back seat!). No more ridiculousness.

Also just because you have a "one of" car doesn't make it worthwhile. I'm stubborn and wanted to see this through. I have one more show season and I'm done. Got my midlife crisis out of the way early...


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Now you know why, even though I had a heavily modified LS1 Camaro, that I have no intention to go the same level of ape-**** crazy on my Corvette.

Just ain't worth the hassle for a few more horsepower. Even though you spent a metric f-ckton of money, I'm glad you realized that when you want to shoot for the moon, start with a better platform...

Sucks to hear about all the issues you had Mark. Being the guinea pig or first one to do something like that usually doesn't end well. I don't think I'd ever mod any more than full bolt ons + tune, minor suspension stuff, and maybe some minor visual mods. I'd much rather take all that mod money and just buy a better car to begin with. Pretty much why I haven't added any mods to the Z since I got it tuned 2 years ago.

If things work out for me this year, I'll be looking to sell my Z and buy a C7 or 2015 5.0 around the end of the year

And who are you impressing, anyway? Usually people who like to ride on your coat tails, because others who've heavily modified their own cars probably think that only their car is the best thing since sliced bread.

I guess I'm just over the fact of spending my money so OTHERS can get off on my car and the money I spent.

Yep. I just want a car that is mostly the way I want it from the factory. I don't want to play with suspension or tuning anymore. Exhaust, tint, and I'm golden. :icon17:

Don't forget the stains. :p

I'm about that action, boss.

and I'll just add a nice indash stereo and some nice rims.. thats about it.:tup:

Who am I impressing? Are you asking me specifically? I mean other than car shows, I do this stuff for me. It's fun. It's a toy.
I hadn't done the tuner car thing before and wanted to try it.

I meant that rhetorically. If you do it for you, cool. But some people don't - they do it for the attention of others. And that is dumb if you ask me.

Nothing is more important than impressing people on the internet.

Agree with that. It's my time and money. I don't really care what other people think about how I spend either (outside or car shows because I have a competitive streak).


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Except for proving other people wrong on the internet.

Or trolling people on the internet.

Or trolling people on the internet.

There are probably less expensive ways to troll people on the internet

You know, after all this I took the car today to get the drivers' side tint fixed (peeling but it has been nearly 3 years) and the dude who did the tint initially was into the car but he's a Z/GTR guy. It's still fun now and then :)

Still happy with my Stage 1/Stage 1.5 SC even if I may have a dead injector right now...

It was just what I wanted and not over the top.

You win this round Steve, but I'll be back!

Maybe you can avenge this day at Zdayz... In our room.

:nutswinger:

That's a pretty accurate depiction of what will be going on in our room.

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Traded in my 08 Silverado for this, last night.

For the curious: 2015 Silverado 2500HD, diesel, with LTZ trim.

It's kinda awesome.

Plenty of room in the back for... activities.

So much room for activities!

Your trolling game is getting weak son! Get your sh1t together!