NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee, Saturdays at 10AM in [WHERE?!], VA & Columbia, MD

zae757

Ok, I know someone probably already asked this question but I have to asks before I spend the money on them. Are long tube headers illegal in VA? I'm stationed in NJ but drive my car through and to VA about once every 3-4 months so I still get the inspection when needed since I'm so close. I just don't want to spend all that money on a part of my exhaust just to hear I have to take it off...someone, anyone, please help with this question...

m4a1mustang

If you eliminate the cats, yes, it is illegal.

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MightyBobo

To the letter of the law, anytime you even touch your OEM cats, it is illegal...

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zae757

So I'm guessing the Berk HFC is also out of the question? Wish I would of known that before I spent the money on them. If anything, I might just change them out every time I need to get an inspection. Plus I'm not living in VA, so it shouldn't be that difficult...

XwChriswX

You have to check the emissions restrictions in the area your car is registered in (your state/county). An out of district agency cannot enforce their restrictions on you if your car is registered out of state/county.

I live in Adams Co. PA which does not have emissions restrictions, so I had LTH's and drove through MD and VA pretty regularly and they can't do anything about it. Also had a radar detector too

Edit: I got more complaints from the whiney mofo's driving behind me on cruises than I did from LEO's

Easiest thing to do is to either go HFC's or RTPs, and save your stock cats. That way, if you do have to do inspections, or get popped, you just switch them back in and get checked. After you pass, swap them back.

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H2O_Doc

Can you provide that text? Seems odd that it isn't based on performance based standards, not that strange things haven't happened.

MightyBobo

I knew someone would ask. I'll have to find it again, it's in the Clean Air Act. I BELIEVE that anyone who ISN'T authorized to do service is not allowed to even touch the cats. I'll try to find it.

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H2O_Doc

I know of this:

"As of January 1, 1988, all persons engaged in the business of automotive service and repair, as well as other parties named in section 203(a)(3) of the Clean Air Act*, are prohibited from installing or selling aftermarket catalytic converters which have not met the criteria of EPA's interim enforcement policy entitled 'Sale and Use of Aftermarket Catalytic Converters'* (published on August 5, 1986). The installation of non-complying converters by a named party will be considered a violation of section 203(a)(3) of the Clean Air Act, and the violator may be subject to a civil penalty of up to $25,000 for each improper installation."

But this doesn't get at what you were saying, so maybe there is something else.

nomodsjk

Any one here signed up for Z nationals yet? Any one plan on going? I'm already pre-registered and was wondering if anyone would be interested in leaving in a group? Maybe all get together for a meet before heading down? Thought it might be a good idea. Any one else think so? It's going to be an amazing time!

dmhenderson

Worst you'll get is a repair order during emissions. I've never seen a cop hook a sniffer up to an exhaust. Not to say it couldn't happen but it'd be unlikely.

Now if you have a Presto exhaust, you might piss someone off and get a ticket but regular straight pipes with muffler(s) probably won't raise any eyebrows unless you live in California.

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FPenvy

how do i look into this thread first time in 2 weeks and first post i see my name haha

this is why i have a guy for inspections

i did put my mufflers back on for inspection annnnndddddd i still havent gone yet. need to do that this week

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Asheth

I can make it to this weeks Columbia Z's and coffee hopefully the weather is good. I haven't met anyone from Mazoc yet except talking to Brian on Facebook.

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MightyBobo

I can also make Columbia this week.

Anyone else in?

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XwChriswX

If I get up early, I might make it.

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jlw2546

I'm in. Wow sounds like md might have more than 3 this weekend. Woop woop

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