Buuut I'm guessing you weren't walking real slow and smiling at everyone. :p

Was that before or after you wiped the dookie from your drawers?

Nope, but I did see a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac. :tup:

very good talking points!

So, I wonder if he bought both cars or not. :p

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Steve was horrified!

He's doing the deal right now, literally...

You ready to race tomorrow?

I forgot that there is gonna be high drama in MD this weekend. Glad I'm coming to the meet. :D

:excited:

Trying to weasel my way out of dinner plans now so I can make sure I have my PSS on for the meat.

So excite!

successful weasel is successful

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Oh, if my door cards don't show up today NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO LOOK AT MY INTERIOR.














Or inside my car, even.

Gotta have ammunition, I've found.

Walking away is a good tactic, don't get me wrong, but an educated buyer is their worst nightmare. If you KNOW the direct competitors to the vehicle you'd like to purchase, and specific details as to WHY they are a potential purchase to you, they cant refute that.

Knowing competitor pricing, horsepower, handling, practicality, and gas mileage are easy points to learn. I'd rather walk into a Nissan dealership and say, "I'd like to buy a 370Z - give me a good reason why I should give you $34000 of my dollars for a 330 horsepower 2-seater sports car, versus $30000 for a 2+2 "sports" car with north of 400 horsepower and it even has a real trunk?" Make it impossible to argue against you without conceeding their price.

At that point, you may as well say, "How about we start at Invoice pricing, and we'll go from there". If you can't get invoice pricing, you may as well walk. Competition is stiff for the Z right now.

Race who? you?

I don't ever negotiate. I have a number and I just sit there until they agree to it.

Yea brah after blades beats you I want seconds :you:

1) Go to USAA's car buying service and get their guaranteed price which is usually awesome.

2) Use the Carfax thing that shows you what everyone in your zip code paid for the same car. If the USAA price is lower than the Carfax price, you're good. If not, look elsewhere.

I actually walked into a dealership when I was buying my 09' Z and had them refuse to give me the USAA price so I walked out and reported them to USAA. Every other time I've used the service, it has worked like a charm.

Sorry man, I hate to dissappoint you, but its not happening.

The race or b1ades beating you?

USAA's car buying service is great to use.

Vagina.

I dont know how FP got into the whole equation of racing me, but.....hmmmmm, thanks but no thanks.

:tiphat:

Fp - 323.56

Blades - 317.78

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we'll just compare best times then. :icon17:

304 to 317. I told shahid he needed a tune because his isht was effed up. If he doesn't run better than a 12.98 tomorrow I'm going to be pissed.

trust me i know, this isnt my first time.. iv bought and sold 34 cars.. as for the part about not going to the dealer until they meet ur price i only partialy agree.. iv talked to many dealers and only got them to a certain point on the phone before. but when your there and they know ur ready to buy they usualy start to bargin.. they dont always look at people on the phone as a serious buyer.. so i call around and find a dealer that is willing to deal over the phone. then when i get to the point where we are close and i think i cant get them to move over the phone i go with with cash in hand and see if they change their minds.. its worked for me many times in the past..

unfortunatly this time it did not work.. they stayed firm on their price.. i was planning on buying 2 cars today but was saving that if we got to where i wanted to be kinda as a incentive to make them give me the deal. when i started to look for another z my girl decided she wanted a juke. so almost all the dealers that i have been talking to iv been working deals on 2 cars not just the z.

NO DEALER HAS EVER HAD ME BY THE BALLS.. i cant count how many times iv walked out of a dealership or told off a sales manager.. i never allow myself to get pushed around.. if u met me you would understand my personality wouldnt allow that to happen..

just aske the people who have met me from on here.. im what most would consider aggressive...:tup:

anyway to make a long story longer i wasted a total of 6 hours of my time. i got them down a lot while i was there but not to where i wanted to be. so after dealing with all the managers i told them thanks but i wont buy for that price..

so u know how close the deal ws.. i wanted a 2013 sprt 6speed z for 31k i got them down to 32,500. most would have jumped at it. but when i set a price i dont break it.. i have amazing self control, and i never let myself get emotionaly involved.. i walk into all dealers with the mind set that i will walk at any point and time.. there is always another dealer with a car i would want.. its just a matter of finding one who will do what it takes to make the sale...

Brother, its meaningless to me, honestly.

Bro you talked SOOO much trash about the race. It means EVERYTHING to us. :bowrofl:

Glad you stuck to your guns, italy. :tup:

Dude, I have NO problem racing Blades.. but to compare times, and spreadsheets and all that sh1t, means nothing to me, thats all Im saying.

Then why the trash talk? :p

haha nice upside down pic! Now I get to see AAM in both of your sigs woohoo!

im not sure about the meet tomorrow.. im exhausted. i got up at 3:30 as usualy to go to the gym, then drove to philly and argued for the whole da and drove hone with no z.. i might need to day to unwind.. any other guys from my area going to the meet?

Im pretty sure, I said over and over again that I'd beat him on the drag strip, Im also pretty sure, I didnt say anything about... hitting a speed of mach 1, with a velocity of 1.45.349990.00 at a quarter mile, with 700hp to the wheels... (im being sarcastic here) :facepalm:

Just being honest man.

Well that is where we are going, so the rest is irrelevant.

Exactly.

Dee seems delusional... must have just put gas in the Z. :stirthepot: