Gran Turismo 5 fans!! Break the Silence

Plasmaball · 08-20-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Z

PS3 slim is $299.99 for Bluray, free online, web browsing, wifi, 120 gb, Dualshock 3 li ion battery, blutooth, and smaller product. Why would anyone buy a 360 at the same price of a PS3? Halo? Gears? Forza? Fable? Viva Pinata? lol

Those games aren't enough to close people. 360 is sitting at 30 million units shipped with a 54% failure rate and a year jump start, while PS3 is at 24 million considering price with a good number of exclusives. With the price drop at even for both consoles, 360's failure rates, and PS3's upcoming exclusives which outnumber 360, Microsoft shot themselves in the foot. Anyway your right though a christmas release would be brilliant. I just started a console war thread lmaoooo, I couldn't help the amazement of some people's opinions.

because as of right now the Slim does not play old ps1 and ps2 games.
Which you know is important.
I love the GT series, sigh i dunno if i will get this now

arcticreaver · 08-20-2009, 05:10 PM

i can not wait for this game. can't wait to supe up a 370z and just go all out. also, i think it is rumored to have full 3D head tracking system.

shabarivas · 08-20-2009, 05:53 PM

Wanna know why MGS4 was never out of XBOX?

Here is why:

And thats ALL THANKS to BluRay!!

bboypuertoroc · 08-20-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Z

I love how your opinion justifies everything, if you think or anyone else thinks something is crap it's all over, that's it it's crap, bluray, crap player PS3. All those exclusives we're crap. If they were crap then why the hell are they scored so high, from a user rating and review rating? Seriously get off the pipe man, if you don't like GT5 that's your opinion, but it's not **** and never has been **** bcuz it's the most best leading racing game series. Wait till the release of both games then make a comparison, I love how you just decide right away it's ****. To the guy who said PS3 fanboys cling to their blurays, we have games like MGS4, Killzone 2, GT5 bcuz of Bluray. You sound like a Honda kid defending a Vtec seriously lmao.

I never said Bluray was crap. I enjoy Bluray, and that's the majority of what my PS3 is used for.

Killzone 2 is ******* outstanding.

The GT series stopped evolving. The graphics got better, but the gameplay stayed the same. The physics are trash. The AI is trash. How is that simulation? I can't compare Forza to GT5 since GT5 has yet to release (which is sad considering there will be TWO Forzas released before hand, with Forza 3 dominating the **** out of Forza 2), so I can only compare it to past GT games. Hell, even the creator of GT said that Forza does more than GT does (I gotta dig that quote up)... he compared the games as watches, with Forza being the super multi-functional watch and GT being a less functional, highly (can't think of the exact wording) polished watch.

Will post more on this later, got an appt.

t-ray · 08-20-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Plasmaball

because as of right now the Slim does not play old ps1 and ps2 games.
Which you know is important.
I love the GT series, sigh i dunno if i will get this now

Every ps3 plays ps1 games.

Devil Z · 08-20-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Plasmaball

because as of right now the Slim does not play old ps1 and ps2 games.
Which you know is important.
I love the GT series, sigh i dunno if i will get this now

most PS3 owners have PS2 and if not then it's a $100.00 for a PS2, probably much cheaper used. It would be nice to have backwards compatibility, but your getting Bluray for $299.99. They had to have cut something to support the low productions cost.

shabarivas · 08-20-2009, 07:32 PM

Wait.. you really think the driving physics of GT5p is less than what forza has to offer... the ONE and ONLY thing ill give to forza is the online crap - but i want a simulator... When it comes to track accuracy and feeling the cars weight shift ... you cant touch GT... if you are comparing crap to GT4 then get out of town man.. that game is ancient... but GT5p has a million times better physics than forza... I hope you play both games in the "professional" setting... and not the "advanced" ....

Devil Z · 08-20-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Wait.. you really think the driving physics of GT5p is less than what forza has to offer... the ONE and ONLY thing ill give to forza is the online crap - but i want a simulator... When it comes to track accuracy and feeling the cars weight shift ... you cant touch GT... if you are comparing crap to GT4 then get out of town man.. that game is ancient... but GT5p has a million times better physics than forza... I hope you play both games in the "professional" setting... and not the "advanced" ....

your right on point

Asheth · 08-20-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Z

I love how your opinion justifies everything, if you think or anyone else thinks something is crap it's all over, that's it it's crap, bluray, crap player PS3. All those exclusives we're crap. If they were crap then why the hell are they scored so high, from a user rating and review rating? Seriously get off the pipe man, if you don't like GT5 that's your opinion, but it's not **** and never has been **** bcuz it's the most best leading racing game series. Wait till the release of both games then make a comparison, I love how you just decide right away it's ****. To the guy who said PS3 fanboys cling to their blurays, we have games like MGS4, Killzone 2, GT5 bcuz of Bluray. You sound like a Honda kid defending a Vtec seriously lmao.

MGS4 was how long ago? The next Metal Gear is coming out for the Xbox!! There is a new Halo coming out actually 2 more coming very soon. Say what you want if you don't like the series or not they will sell like crazy!!

Again I point to Tekken 6. Tekken was designed on PS3 hardware yet there is no Graphical differences what at all between the 2 versions. Namco has always been pro Sony so I wouldn't call them being biased.

YouTube - TEKKEN 6 - Steve Fox intro and gameplay trailer

Look at the PS2 sells still but not the most technical system out there. Hell for about 2 years the PS2 was still outselling the PS3. Its about installed user base. Not about Graphic power Microsoft learned that last round. They had the better system but people still flocked to the PS2. It doesnt matter how much untapped power there is in the PS3 if no one takes advantage of it it might as well as not exist. Obviously sony isnt even taking advantage of it if you still talking about its still in there.

Installed user base is what matters! People have the console in there homes and playing it.

Here are the numbers. This is from 6th of August 09

Console installed bases in NA and Europe according to Activision Blizzard - Gamezine.co.uk

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Following Activision Blizzard's financial reports, where the company revealed that apart from World of Warcraft, the Xbox 360 topped their revenue input, the company now brings us console installed bases.

In their 2008 report, Activision's president Mike Griffeth predicted that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would sell 8 million units each in 2009 and 16 million units for the Nintendo Wii (North America and Europe only):

"For calendar year 2009, we expect the installed base of hardware in North America and Europe will be up 8 million units for the PS3 and up 8 million units for the Xbox 360," he said.

However, the company has now altered their predictions to 9 million for the Xbox 360, 7 million units for the PlayStation 3, 15 million units for the Nintendo Wii, and 21 million units for the PSP and Nintendo DS combined.

The company's latest report also brings us the current installed bases for each of the consoles, based on NPD and Gfk reports. Of course, this means that only North America and most of Europe are included, but it's still interesting to compare the numbers to the reports released by the platform holders themselves, with the gap between the Xbox 360 and PS3 growing from 7.6 million units to 11 million units.

The difference between the following totals and the worldwide statistics reported by the platform holders comes to 12.6 million Nintendo Wii's, 4.4 million Xbox 360's and 7.8 million PlayStation 3's.

Worldwide installed bases according to NPD and Gfk*

# Nintendo Wii - 40 million
# Xbox 360 - 27 million
# PlayStation 3 - 16 million
# Handhelds - 96 million

According to this report the gap will widen not close.

ct63084 · 08-20-2009, 08:56 PM

lol i dont' even know why we debating about 360 vs ps3, it seems like the wii is kicking both those consoles combined lol.

BanningZ · 08-20-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

Official release date is Dec. 22, 2012.

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

According to who?

ssqpolo · 08-20-2009, 09:10 PM

i was gonna buy a ps3 just for gt5, then im like F it, for a ps3 steering wheel and game and hdmi cable will be like 700-800 bucks...id rather mod my car for that! but htis new ps3 slim looks hot...sooooo i might just look back into it. regardless, im still getting forza 3 too. at least i know it will come out for sure lol

theDreamer · 08-21-2009, 09:04 AM

Asheth, actually the gap is closing in slowly, now with the PS3 slim coming out it might even get closer, but Microsoft already has an ace up their sleeve which they are about to drop soon (remove one console and lower the top console price to 299).

Real numbers currently:

The PS3 has slowly been eating away at that 10 million gap over the past 6 months. The 360 beats it in overall sales each month, but by less each time.

Now on the point about Forza v. GT5, the GT series has always been the premier driving simulation. Yes the AI has been below par, the cars do not get damaged, but in terms are accuracy and precision the GT series is still number one (based on GT5p and what information we know of Forza 3). Now with the full GT5 comes out and Forza 3, we will better be able to determine the higher power.

Those who try to argue a 360 v. a PS3 are just hurting themselves. Each one beats the other in one category and loses in another. The PS3 has the potential to have better graphics, but Sony limits itself by out casting developers and game studios with no support for the system which leaves them finding their own way to make the game. Also, (not sure if they lifted it yet) studios who develop for the PS3 cannot share "developer kits" with other studios to help each other when developing for the PS3, per Sony requirements.

shabarivas · 08-21-2009, 10:31 AM

360 was out for an extra how long? ... and the headtracking is NOT going to work - think about it... your one tv screen is in front of you... you look right...and the screen in front of you pans lol... how are you going to be able to look at the screen and look right?

Devil Z · 08-21-2009, 02:24 PM

This topic was never made to get PS3 vs 360, but people came in knocking on this fabolous game calling it trash and clinging to Forza 3. When I see responses like that I couldn't just sit and watch how biast people's opinions are, but to each his own.

08-20-2009, 05:10 PM	#47 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	i can not wait for this game. can't wait to supe up a 370z and just go all out. also, i think it is rumored to have full 3D head tracking system. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/arcticreaver - FaceBook http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sam-yang/a/832/325 - LinkedIn Profile

08-21-2009, 09:04 AM	#58 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Asheth, actually the gap is closing in slowly, now with the PS3 slim coming out it might even get closer, but Microsoft already has an ace up their sleeve which they are about to drop soon (remove one console and lower the top console price to 299). Real numbers currently: The PS3 has slowly been eating away at that 10 million gap over the past 6 months. The 360 beats it in overall sales each month, but by less each time. Now on the point about Forza v. GT5, the GT series has always been the premier driving simulation. Yes the AI has been below par, the cars do not get damaged, but in terms are accuracy and precision the GT series is still number one (based on GT5p and what information we know of Forza 3). Now with the full GT5 comes out and Forza 3, we will better be able to determine the higher power. Those who try to argue a 360 v. a PS3 are just hurting themselves. Each one beats the other in one category and loses in another. The PS3 has the potential to have better graphics, but Sony limits itself by out casting developers and game studios with no support for the system which leaves them finding their own way to make the game. Also, (not sure if they lifted it yet) studios who develop for the PS3 cannot share "developer kits" with other studios to help each other when developing for the PS3, per Sony requirements. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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08-20-2009, 05:53 PM	#48 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Wanna know why MGS4 was never out of XBOX? Here is why: And thats ALL THANKS to BluRay!!

08-20-2009, 07:32 PM	#52 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Wait.. you really think the driving physics of GT5p is less than what forza has to offer... the ONE and ONLY thing ill give to forza is the online crap - but i want a simulator... When it comes to track accuracy and feeling the cars weight shift ... you cant touch GT... if you are comparing crap to GT4 then get out of town man.. that game is ancient... but GT5p has a million times better physics than forza... I hope you play both games in the "professional" setting... and not the "advanced" ....

08-20-2009, 08:56 PM	#55 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 16	lol i dont' even know why we debating about 360 vs ps3, it seems like the wii is kicking both those consoles combined lol.

08-20-2009, 09:10 PM	#57 (permalink)
ssqpolo Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 882 Drives: '12 Black Nismo Rep Power: 267	i was gonna buy a ps3 just for gt5, then im like F it, for a ps3 steering wheel and game and hdmi cable will be like 700-800 bucks...id rather mod my car for that! but htis new ps3 slim looks hot...sooooo i might just look back into it. regardless, im still getting forza 3 too. at least i know it will come out for sure lol

08-21-2009, 10:31 AM	#59 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	360 was out for an extra how long? ... and the headtracking is NOT going to work - think about it... your one tv screen is in front of you... you look right...and the screen in front of you pans lol... how are you going to be able to look at the screen and look right?

08-21-2009, 02:24 PM	#60 (permalink)
Devil Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: peoria Posts: 200 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 241	This topic was never made to get PS3 vs 360, but people came in knocking on this fabolous game calling it trash and clinging to Forza 3. When I see responses like that I couldn't just sit and watch how biast people's opinions are, but to each his own.