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Xplicit97 · 08-24-2013, 03:03 AM

I am curious what your professional opinion is about motorists being stopped at random "checkpoints", or randomly being stopped on the street and then refusing to answer questions or give information to LEO citing the 4th amendment as giving an individual the right to do so? Can you infact refuse to give information and ask if you have broken any laws, and just ask if you are being detained, and if not ask if you are free to go? What is your interpretation of this, and how do you feel about this trend as a LEO? Thanks for the info.

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venus · 08-24-2013, 08:38 AM

Got a new light in my hood on a 4 lane road intersection. Traffic light on right lane shows RED with a Green turn rt arrow/light. WTF? Do I stop then turn or do like everyone else & maintain speed and just turn? Sorry I do not have pic but can get one. Was wondering who I could call to get law.

This is a great thread!

SouthArk370Z · 08-24-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by venus

Got a new light in my hood on a 4 lane road intersection. Traffic light on right lane shows RED with a Green turn rt arrow/light. WTF? Do I stop then turn or do like everyone else & maintain speed and just turn? Sorry I do not have pic but can get one. Was wondering who I could call to get law.

Don't have to be a LEO for that one. Stop behind the crosswalk, then proceed with your turn when/if safe to do so.

I'm guessing you live in a state that does not have right-turn-on-red. The lights are giving you permission to do so.

gomer_110 · 08-24-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by venus

Got a new light in my hood on a 4 lane road intersection. Traffic light on right lane shows RED with a Green turn rt arrow/light. WTF? Do I stop then turn or do like everyone else & maintain speed and just turn? Sorry I do not have pic but can get one. Was wondering who I could call to get law.

This is a great thread!

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Don't have to be a LEO for that one. Stop behind the crosswalk, then proceed with your turn when/if safe to do so.

I'm guessing you live in a state that does not have right-turn-on-red. The lights are giving you permission to do so.

I have these type of lights all over near me. The green arrow means just go. Stopping is not required. If it was just red with no green arrow then you'd stop before making the right turn.

venus · 08-25-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Don't have to be a LEO for that one. Stop behind the crosswalk, then proceed with your turn when/if safe to do so.

I'm guessing you live in a state that does not have right-turn-on-red. The lights are giving you permission to do so.

This is a turn rt on red state. No one else is even slowing down. Yeah and there is no inspection so I run headers w/ no cats on my 240Z and RX-7. Jackson Racing cat & exaust on Miata. Ferrari would pass in any state as I don't F w/ perfection. Thank God for America!

kfull · 08-26-2013, 11:10 PM

Is getting road head illegal?

venus · 08-24-2013, 08:57 AM

Question 1: Does it do any good to try to explain when you get pulled over?

Question 2: just got pulled over a week ago for running a red. 7 AM on my way to work I honestly did not see it changing to yellow until too late. If I had slammed on brakes I would have slid into intersection of this minimal street. My luck -Cop was stopped at intersection & I immediately knew my goose was cooked. EXCUSE: my 93 yo mother fell & dislocated her shoulder. I’d been spending the night at her home sleeping on the living room floor and only for a couple hours. Was dog dead tired – not a valid excuse not to go in to work. Too exhausted to drive yes, but had to. I DO NOT try to beat the yellow ever!
Question for you: should I just pay the $300-400 fine online or go to court & try to explain. My driving record before this is spotless for like 30 years. Thanks for your input. V

Cell · 08-24-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit97

I am curious what your professional opinion is about motorists being stopped at random "checkpoints", or randomly being stopped on the street and then refusing to answer questions or give information to LEO citing the 4th amendment as giving an individual the right to do so? Can you infact refuse to give information and ask if you have broken any laws, and just ask if you are being detained, and if not ask if you are free to go? What is your interpretation of this, and how do you feel about this trend as a LEO? Thanks for the info.

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You mean the 5th amendment? If I understand correctly, the 5th amendment doesn't even apply if you aren't even under arrest.

I may have even read your post incorrectly lol.

NickTurnon · 08-24-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

You mean the 5th amendment? If I understand correctly, the 5th amendment doesn't even apply if you aren't even under arrest.

I may have even read your post incorrectly lol.

4th Amendment is unreasonable search and seizure, I dont think fifth applies

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venus Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: usa Posts: 105 Drives: Datsun 240Z Rep Power: 14	2 Questions Question 1: Does it do any good to try to explain when you get pulled over? Question 2: just got pulled over a week ago for running a red. 7 AM on my way to work I honestly did not see it changing to yellow until too late. If I had slammed on brakes I would have slid into intersection of this minimal street. My luck -Cop was stopped at intersection & I immediately knew my goose was cooked. EXCUSE: my 93 yo mother fell & dislocated her shoulder. I’d been spending the night at her home sleeping on the living room floor and only for a couple hours. Was dog dead tired – not a valid excuse not to go in to work. Too exhausted to drive yes, but had to. I DO NOT try to beat the yellow ever! Question for you: should I just pay the $300-400 fine online or go to court & try to explain. My driving record before this is spotless for like 30 years. Thanks for your input. V __________________ Finesse is everything. Last edited by venus; 08-24-2013 at 09:01 AM.