Exactly. That's why I'm not trying to get one for myself. I'll wait for the slim version to come out probably

Zdayz 2014!!

My precious...
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Now the big question... to open it or to put it on ebay.

Huck just so you know they nerfed selling consoles on ebay. Only 1 per month. Ask me how I know Lol Unless your a top, or power seller. Which I doubt anyone on this forum is.

They are not selling for much right now. You had to get in early, (which I do not like to do just in case I do not get a system to sell) or ride it out until closer to Xmas and hope someone that cant find one is willing to pay. I have one on eBay right now which is all I can do. The rest im going to try somewhere else. I may hold one until the week of Xmas and see what happens.

Should be picking mine up this evening.

That sucks about them nerfing consoles on eBay. Time to find some friends with eBay accounts to sell them for you.

So while I was picking up my systems last night I saw 3 PS4s being returned between 2 different stores claiming to be bricked. I watched them test one at Gamestop and sure enough it was.

Lets hope its a small number or people screwing up the firmware update.

My buddy bricked his PS4 last night. Didn't even get to play.

Lol It goes with the Microsoft comment

Congratulations Sony...

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Gale any idea what happened? Was it during the firmware update? I'm just curious because I'm thinking about keeping one but I'm afraid to now.

I'm so leaning towards the Xbox one now. Titanfall ifs a big reason why I want to also

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I think it was during the update. I can double check.

I agree Titanfall is going to be so fun! In all fairness I will be surprised if Microsoft does not have some dead systems as well. After all it is a mass hardware release. I can't count the times I have gotten D.O.A PC parts.

I just want to see how Sony handles the customer service side, they need to get these people having problems up and running ASAP for being loyal fans.

Thanks. I have been doing a little searching read all kinds of theories but nothing solid at the moment as to what is causing the issues.

Isnt the PSN network down too right at launch? My friend had posted on his fb something about it possibly being for a week? Not a good thing for something immediately after you start making them pay for it

My PS4 works fine. The PSN was down off and on after launch, but I was able to update my firmware and download a bunch of games off the PSN. Haven't had any issues the last few days. Still sad that Drive Club isn't out yet, but I'm making due with NFS Rivals.

If it helps, I downloaded my update with the PS4. Someone in line at Gamestop said that people were having problems with the update if they used a flash drive. Also there were a few issues with people not being able to plug the HDMI in all the way due to a bent piece of metal on that connector. So that's also worth checking out.

Otherwise, I am thoroughly enjoying mine and once some more games come out I'll enjoy it even more. On a side note: the last episode of South Park regarding the next gen systems was hilarious.

Where is the "both" option?

I bought my Xbox one and its freaking awesome! Went tio my buddies and I played his PS4. They are damn right identical. I love the Xbox controllers and can't wait for Titanfall

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Ok I got our three sytems hooked up yesterday. Two Xbox Ones and one PS4. I will give a quick rundown of my first impressions and update again when I get some more stick time.

I will start with the Xbox because I have used it the most so far.

Home Screen:

The UI is fresh and does not take long to get used to. You can customize the color of your dashboard now which is a nice touch. The system also logs you into Xbox live when you wake it up by saying "Xbox" "On". It uses facial recognition to pick the correct account (that has previously been loaded). So this works for other accounts on the system as well. Multiple people can switch to their accounts dashboard by saying "Xbox" "My Stuff". Pretty cool if you ask me and is taking home entertainment to a new level IMO.

Kinect:

The new Kinect is solid, sleek, and no longer uses motors. The camera is a wide angle lens and uses smart zooming technology to follow the user's movements. You no longer need the lights on to play in the dark because the Kinect now sees in all light conditions. It also has a little more lient space requirement. One of my favorite new features is the ability to use QR code scanning to input redeem codes, no more pecking in 25 symbols! Almost all of my DLC used QR codes and I suspect it won't be long before that is the only way.

My concern about two Kinects working in the same room is exactly what I worried about. Though they recognize your face, it does not care who is talking. Making one or both dead in the water for voice commands when playing both systems simultaniously. Since my wife does not play as much as I do I turned off her wake feature so only my turns on by voice.

Xbox as a set top box???:

This was one of the features I looked forward to the most and though im a little disappointed I feel it is only the beginning. I have my DVR Cable box running through the Xbox. When I wake the system it powers on my TV, and the Cable Box itself. It welcomes me with a nice hello and I can navigate the dash board as I please. Once I bring up the TV by saying "Xbox" "TV" I can simply surf the channels by voice, snap to items, or seamlessly switch in and out of games, etc. I hope one day everything can be done by voice but for now to watch or use any features of the DVR the Cable Box remote must be used. A little bit of a bummer but not a deal breaker by any means. All said and done the feature works flawlessly so far and will be pretty fun to show off to family over the Holiday week.

Online Play:

As expected the Live network is smooth and responsive even more so than with the 360 due to better hardware. With that said this is also where I am having a huge issue. When creating parties it seems you can only play one game. Say 7 friends are in a party 3 friends are playing Forza and you want to play COD with 4 other friends. Someone will need to make a new party for that game. It gets worse!!! Starting a party is more intuitive than before and just does not flow well. We have only tried Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 online so far. Last night everything worked perfect, today it took over 1.5 hours to get into a game of Dead Rising with my wife. It kept saying player has joined game but she never did, and vise versa. I ended up clearing both our Mac Addresses which forces the system to reboot. I tried so many different options but this one worked. Im sure that is not the correct way though, not to mention it took like 5 solid minutes for the system to start back up. This is a serious flaw and needs to be patched soon or Microsoft will lose major cool points from me.

Who ever made the Party, Game Invite, Game Lobby what ever UI needs to be punched in the balls.

Graphics:

The graphics are pretty impressive for launch games as well so I cant wait to see what future games bring to the table. I cannot really fluff this to much they are better than the past systems but cant compare to todays gaming PC's.

PS4:

Sorry do not have much to say about this yet. I prayed my HDMI port wasn't damaged, downloaded the update, and was up and running.

Home Screen:

It seems to be simpler than before and runs very smooth. To me it does leave a little to be desired though, it is a little to plain. Maybe once I dig in a little more that will change.

I have not yet played anything online.

Two things that bothered me are: When the system is in sleep mode it has a constant white light that illuminates, and it will not charge anything once in sleep or turned off. I was hoping they would fix that with the PS4.

I have aso not tested the graphics but I do not expect it to be noticeably different than the Xbox.

I will report back soon with more thoughts and impressions.

The one thing I did notice is that the Xbox graphics are A LOT brighter

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I own both, and I can say for sure the PS4 looks much better in game but that's because its hardware is better and runs many of its games at native 1080p. The xbox home screen is just all cluttered as well, not a fan. Don't get me started on the waste the Kinect really is. I did buy Forza for my xbox one and already purchased my 370z, ryse is pretty good but I still enjoy the PS4 much more. Kinect will drive you nuts. Wife wanted Dance central so I bought it for her to play with and omg it catches everything and then doesn't catch anything. Its so messed up. For all big games, I will only buy them for the PS4.

what? :icon14:

Good review of someone who has both.

The PS4 does charge the controllers while in standby mode if you select that option in the settings.

Also, glad your Xboxs are working. As you expected, they have had their issues with launch hardware as well. There have been reports of disc drive errors, and update errors requiring the unit be sent back. This happens with any major launch though, quality control can only get so much and things happen. I think people have just waited for so long that when it does happen they get very upset and its plastered all over the Internet.

For me, I like the minimalist layout of the PS4. Personally, I prefer to focus on one thing and do not have the need to switch between tv and gaming or split screen them. I can change from video games to tv with the push of a button on the remote, so it hasn't really been an issue for me at least. I can also do a lot of surfing for shows and movies on my phone or tablet while watching a current channel. To me the ability to use a second screen to get more detailed information and surf around is more useful than the current Xbox1 media center functionality. So I prefer the PS4 for its core focus on games and its native 1080p vs upscaled 1080p. I just wish they'd released GT6 on both PS3 and PS4. I also think that the touchpad on the new PS4 controller could add a lot of new functionality once games start taking advantage of it.

Both are undoubtedly a step up from last gen and should make any owner very happy.

Thanks for the heads up on the charging option. I have not had time to play around much with the PS4 yet, but that is the first feature I'm going to setup.

Have all but confirmed that there will be an Xbox One under my tree this Christmas. The hardest part is not going out and getting one ahead of time.

I think they both look great, but I'll probably end up doing what I did with the previous generation. Xbox first and Playstation after a price drop. The only reason I got a PS3 was to play The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls, Little Big Planet was kind of fun too.

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Haha I know I couldnt wait! I had 4 PS4's and planned on selling them all but after opening up two Xbox Ones, and taking 4 hours to re wire our gaming area, I decided to keep a PS4 now because I had easy access to everything.

I am getting Killzone, and Knack for Xmas I cant wait to play them.

Sounds like Microsoft is really stepping up to address their hardware issues. They will send out a replacement console before you send out your broken console, and you get a free digital download of a first party game to play in the meantime. :tiphat: Not too shabby Microsoft...not too shabby at all

Wow Microsoft really did step up their game. In other news I found this thought you guys might be interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8sL...e_gdata_player

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I keep having issues installing games with the disc on the XB1. There are work arounds but we should not have to jump through hoops to play our games. I know they don't want to do little patch after little patch right now but I hope they get this ironed out quickly.

Really for which games?

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First was Dead Rising 3. The first night we played fine together the next it just kept saying added to game but neither one of us actually joined the other. I fiddled with it for over an hour trying different things before I finally cleared the MAc Adddress on the console which forced a reboot and then we were able to join each other.

Just a few hours ago I had the same problem with COD Ghosts. Accept I tried all of that and we still could not get in each others lobby. This time I gave up and said we can just both play with other people. Well when the game started I seen my wife's screen name in front of me but she was not in the lobby when the game launched. This was extinction mode by the way. The random people that were paired with me were gone and it was just the two of us. When we lost it put us in a lobby with two others and we played with them. When that game ended I tried to back us out and it split us apart again. Not allowing us to join the others game.

The entire party system is so flawed it's driving me insane. It shouldnt take an hour to figure out how to play a game with my wife that is sitting right next to me. Hell it shouldn't even take 10 seconds, it sure the hell didn't on the 360. I have to stop typing I'm getting pissed.

Yeah it's ridiculously hard to get a lobby going. The other day I had an error message that said my data wouldn't sync up to the cloud in turn not letting me get online. I called support and they asked me to completely reboot the system. It worked but I had to download everything again. Other than that I haven't had any issues.

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Oh and I just prestiged on extinction yesterday! The relics are crazy hard now.

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Let's revive this thing! Who's getting destiny next week and for which system?

Got Destiny ordered for xbox one and PS4!


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I took a third option: preordered Pokemon Alpha Sapphire for 3DS.

Honen confirmed.

I got Destiny coming for XB1

Def going to need some people for the 6 person raids... tough to get that many on at once for me lol

My wife and I will both be playing so if your looking for raid team members we can fill two spots.


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Xbox 1 here, picking it up at midnight.

Console gamers FTW. Upgradable parts, unsurpassed graphics, and best games. League of Legends baby

Awesome man... look for me GT: jofro6

I was on till 3am this morning haha

downloaded mine monday but didnt feel like staying awake til 3am today to play it since xbox is lame and caters to west coast cry babies :stirthepot: lol

but after work and a few things i need to do at home i will be online.

think we have about 5 guys right now so most likely will form 2-3 teams of 3 for gameplay.