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Haboob 06-24-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377182)
That's BS. Is there another dealership you can take it to?

Yeah, I'm going to try another this weekend.

Though, "Post catalyst fuel trim bank 2" seems to say (when I look up others, I'm the first on this forum apparently) that I'm running too lean due to the HFCs...

UpRev may be my only choice to clear the SES.

Nismo89 06-24-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377177)
Hey Nismo, I think this your Cousin? I don't watch a lot of TV so not 100% sure.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=499&h=480

:icon17: yes Mike is my cousin, we never know what he'll do next

thanks for posting!

:tiphat:

Haboob 06-24-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377182)
That's BS. Is there another dealership you can take it to?

Also, I think I'm going to demand that they put it on the lift and show me where/how they think this wire was modified.

GaleForce 06-24-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 2377259)
:icon17: yes Mike is my cousin, we never know what he'll do next

thanks for posting!

:tiphat:

Cool :tiphat:

GaleForce 06-24-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377294)
Also, I think I'm going to demand that they put it on the lift and show me where/how they think this wire was modified.

That's what I was thinking.

Haboob 06-24-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377334)
That's what I was thinking.

Chris just chimed in to me on FB and suggested I do the steel-wool trick.

Gonna try this before shelling out $600 on the UpRev.

GaleForce 06-24-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377340)
Chris just chimed in to me on FB and suggested I do the steel-wool trick.

Gonna try this before shelling out $600 on the UpRev.

I think you will still need someone to clear the code for you.

Pintsize725 06-24-2013 05:12 PM

So if it's going to save me $800 over the length of the loan, I should refinance my auto loan right?

LMBmikeZ 06-24-2013 05:19 PM

:ugh2: I suppose........

$800 is $800 :ugh2:

GaleForce 06-24-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 2377382)
So if it's going to save me $800 over the length of the loan, I should refinance my auto loan right?

Can you save more if you refi and keep your payments the same?

JARblue 06-24-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2376926)
From Boy Scout experience, I drank water (and pee'd) all day! If you aren't peeing at least once an hour, you aren't taking in enough fluids.

I know, a little too much information. :icon18:

I don't know that I went quite that often but yes, lots of bathrooms breaks :icon17:

It was an incredible time on Saturday. Glad that we all got to participate. The thing that struck me the most was how much easier the GT-R's are to drive than the Z's.

:iagree: Almost effortless at times! And anytime I felt like I was about to get into trouble, the GT-R was just like, "Don't worry, son. I got you. Go ahead. Give it a bit more throttle. It'll all be ok." :bowrofl:

I don't think I got over 120 mph in a Z, but easily hit 165 mph in GT-R on the back stretch, and it was effortless.

Yeah about 125 mph in both my Z and the stock Nismo Z, IIRC. I was with a slower guest group in the GT-R so I don't think we even hit 160, but to be honest, I wasn't even paying attention the speed it was just so much fun to drive lol

My biggest problem was that I had never driven a manual Z before; mine is a 7-AT. It wasn't that I couldn't drive it, but I had to think about my gear changes; they weren't natural to me. That was a bit distracting.

This is exactly how I felt driving Matt's 7AT in the morning session. I tried paddle-shifting, and it was just so unfamiliar that I was completely befuddled. I was only able to keep speed because we were going so slow, and my lines were so bad it was embarrassing. In fact, at one point I hit the windshield wipers and they got stuck under his GoPro on the front window :facepalm: Once I got back in my 6MT in the afternoon (and the Nismo Z), it was all good :driving: There's just something about a clutch pedal. Not to mention grabbing a stick with a knob :yum: :roflpuke2:

The GT-R in automatic mode was awesome, though. I didn't even both to try paddles in the afternoon session. It kept high RPMs without upshifting even with light throttle application, and it downshifted at high RPMs leaving you perfect for maximum acceleration on exit.


I was fine in my car until the oil temp got too hot to paddle shift - I was right above 255. I could definitely feel a bit of a loss in performance as it got hotter. In full auto mode, it just doesn't shift quickly enough. Matt has a 7-AT, but also has an oil cooler so he had no problem.

I am wondering how much my tune allowed me to continue pushing the car even after 250 oil temps. I was about 260 after the first three hard laps. She cooled down to 220 before we went out again, but was back at 260 after the 2nd lap. What was surprising was that it jumped up another 30 degrees in the next half lap. I was pushing it to take the second position after a rotation when I hit 290 and said ok no more acceleration, and luckily immediately after that straight away the instructor in the lead car announced the the rest of the lap would be cool down for the cars. I had the radio in hand ready to let him know that I was going to have to drop to the back to cool her off and would be pitting next chance when he came on said cool down time :tup:

The instructor came up to me after one of the sessions in my car and asked why I started falling back. That's when I told him about the overheating/paddle shift issue. After that, I just stayed in a Nismo 370 and then the GT-R and had no problem staying up with him when it was my turn.

Nice :tup: The stock oil coolers are perfect for this type of application -a few laps at a time with lots of cooling off time in between. I think with any kind of sustained track use, those stock Zs would be right where you were temp-wise

Again, what and amazing day.

:iagree: :driving:

JARblue 06-24-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2376942)
Alright. Now I'm pissed.

The door chime was a loose fuse (my fault most likely).

The SES? P2098 (Post Catalyst Fuel Trim Bank 2)is the code and he says they can't fix it, because the O2 sensor wiring has been modified.

However, I personally put the HFCs on and the wiring is OEM and wasn't modified.

:facepalm: on the fuse... I hate when I do that kind of crap lol

Many dealerships are stupid. Hope the second one works out for you (or the steel wool) :tup:

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377174)
Have you UpRev'd yet?

You mean, EcuTek? :icon17:

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377176)
No, not yet. I'm not wanting to shell out $600 at the moment.

I was hoping it would just be an O2 sensor or something. :ugh2:

My tuner is offering remote tuning for $450 for EcuTek http://www.the370z.com/tuning/72600-...ml#post2369847

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377181)
...that and despite the "detune it" option, I'm worried about the warranty.

Yeah... I can understand that. Also, EcuTek doesn't even have the map switching feature yet, though it is supposedly coming soon. I got my tune at about 34K miles. The opportunity came up suddenly, but I wasn't worried because my extended warranty (to 100K) isn't through the dealer.

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377396)
Can you save more if you refi and keep your payments the same?

My goal when I refinance is to either significantly lower my monthly payments with no increase in remaining years on the loan or significantly decrease the remaining years on the loan with very little or no increase in my monthly payment.

GaleForce 06-24-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2377409)
:facepalm: on the fuse... I hate when I do that kind of crap lol

Many dealerships are stupid. Hope the second one works out for you (or the steel wool) :tup:



You mean, EcuTek? :icon17:



My tuner is offering remote tuning for $450 for EcuTek http://www.the370z.com/tuning/72600-...ml#post2369847



Yeah... I can understand that. Also, EcuTek doesn't even have the map switching feature yet, though it is supposedly coming soon. I got my tune at about 34K miles. The opportunity came up suddenly, but I wasn't worried because my extended warranty (to 100K) isn't through the dealer.



My goal when I refinance is to either significantly lower my monthly payments with no increase in remaining years on the loan or significantly decrease the remaining years on the loan with very little or no increase in my monthly payment.

^^^ This.

GaleForce 06-24-2013 05:52 PM

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...if?w=350&h=182

Isamu 06-24-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 2377382)
So if it's going to save me $800 over the length of the loan, I should refinance my auto loan right?

yes...

Nismo89 06-24-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377426)

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!1 :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

:leghump:

Isamu 06-24-2013 06:00 PM

The way I see it Pint..
is if you refinance, and you get a lower payment, continue to make the same size payment you were already making.. it will pay the loan off faster

Nismo89 06-24-2013 06:01 PM

O's are on! :tup:

Isamu 06-24-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2377409)


You mean, EcuTek? :icon17:



My tuner is offering remote tuning for $450 for EcuTek http://www.the370z.com/tuning/72600-...ml#post2369847



Yeah... I can understand that. Also, EcuTek doesn't even have the map switching feature yet, though it is supposedly coming soon. I got my tune at about 34K miles. The opportunity came up suddenly, but I wasn't worried because my extended warranty (to 100K) isn't through the dealer.

remote tuning :ugh2: I'll stick with Uprev


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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2377409)

My goal when I refinance is to either significantly lower my monthly payments with no increase in remaining years on the loan or significantly decrease the remaining years on the loan with very little or no increase in my monthly payment.

even if you increase the term of the loan, and drop your payment, if you continue to make the same sized payment, more will go towards principal and you will pay the loan off faster

Pintsize725 06-24-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2377441)
The way I see it Pint..
is if you refinance, and you get a lower payment, continue to make the same size payment you were already making.. it will pay the loan off faster

That's what I planned on doing. My payment will only be $15 lower per month but I also get gap insurance which I didn't have through nmac. Also, I'm trying to build up credit worthiness with this credit union in hopes of a future house loan from them.

onzedge 06-24-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2377426)

:icon17:

LMBmikeZ 06-24-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 2377447)
That's what I planned on doing. My payment will only be $15 lower per month but I also get gap insurance which I didn't have through nmac. Also, I'm trying to build up credit worthiness with this credit union in hopes of a future house loan from them.


Then I would definitely do it, but I would also arrange for the loan to stay at the same payment amount. Then you end up paying it down even quicker and you won't notice the change because the payments are the same.

JARblue 06-24-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2377445)
remote tuning :ugh2: I'll stick with Uprev

even if you increase the term of the loan, and drop your payment, if you continue to make the same sized payment, more will go towards principal and you will pay the loan off faster

You're boosted... that's a little different than stock, buddy. I was just throwing it out there as an alternative to the $600 Uprev tune that gives the tuner less control :stirthepot: FWIW, I did not get mine remotely tuned, so I can't say I disagree with you on the remote tuning - prior to my recent tuning experience with this particular guy I would have felt a little uncomfortable with the idea myself.

I guess I was speaking more about home loans. Auto loans are so much shorter and don't have the same impact. Regardless, if you increase the loan, you better do some calculations to make sure of the numbers. It's not uncommon for your refi to wind up with almost identical total payment over the life of the loan. However, this isn't necessarily bad if you need some temporary relief in your payments, and are willing to accept a longer loan term in exchange.

JARblue 06-24-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 2377447)
That's what I planned on doing. My payment will only be $15 lower per month but I also get gap insurance which I didn't have through nmac. Also, I'm trying to build up credit worthiness with this credit union in hopes of a future house loan from them.

Do you really need GAP insurance? I mean, I know it can be very helpful, but I wouldn't think you were that upside down on the car that it would be something you were looking to get. But hell, if you are saving money anyway, I don't see why not.

FWIW, there aren't any credit unions in this region that I would feel comfortable using for a mortgage loan. Our mortgage broker is a family friend, and she is awesome. She also works for Colonial National Mortgage which is one of the largest firms and one of the few that is not publicly traded and does not bow to the corporate whims of Wall Street.

Isamu 06-24-2013 06:31 PM

mornin fawkers

Isamu 06-24-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2377455)
Then I would definitely do it, but I would also arrange for the loan to stay at the same payment amount. Then you end up paying it down even quicker and you won't notice the change because the payments are the same.

:tup::iagree:

Isamu 06-24-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2377457)
You're boosted... that's a little different than stock, buddy. I was just throwing it out there as an alternative to the $600 Uprev tune that gives the tuner less control :stirthepot: FWIW, I did not get mine remotely tuned, so I can't say I disagree with you on the remote tuning - prior to my recent tuning experience with this particular guy I would have felt a little uncomfortable with the idea myself.

I guess I was speaking more about home loans. Auto loans are so much shorter and don't have the same impact. Regardless, if you increase the loan, you better do some calculations to make sure of the numbers. It's not uncommon for your refi to wind up with almost identical total payment over the life of the loan. However, this isn't necessarily bad if you need some temporary relief in your payments, and are willing to accept a longer loan term in exchange.

uprev gives the tuner full access.. they just need to know how to use the osiris software.. it's really easy to use.. im just not comfortable tuning my own **** lol ...


if you lower your interest rate, even increasing the duration of the loan, by then making higher payments its worth it

Pintsize725 06-24-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2377469)
Do you really need GAP insurance? I mean, I know it can be very helpful, but I wouldn't think you were that upside down on the car that it would be something you were looking to get. But hell, if you are saving money anyway, I don't see why not.

FWIW, there aren't any credit unions in this region that I would feel comfortable using for a mortgage loan. Our mortgage broker is a family friend, and she is awesome. She also works for Colonial National Mortgage which is one of the largest firms and one of the few that is not publicly traded and does not bow to the corporate whims of Wall Street.

Not sure how upside down I am but payment is only $4 less without gap. Original interest rate was 8.2% as well.

Isamu 06-24-2013 07:31 PM

whats the new interest rate?

Haboob 06-24-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377294)
Also, I think I'm going to demand that they put it on the lift and show me where/how they think this wire was modified.

So the techs were "leaving" when I got there and they couldn't put it on the lift and show me wtf they were on about.

The paper says nothing about the O2 sensor wire.


And to boot, they ran it through their car wash. :shakes head:






I am not too happy with that dealership (they were dumb and jerks when I was buying), but they are the closest one and I was in kind of a pinch no knowing what that code was.


As for the fuses, f it. They at least know how to do that part - I didn't want to get all hot and sweaty, even if it was my mistake to begin with. :bowrofl: Oh well. Maybe I'll put a call in with NNA, since I had one in back in December for this same dealership.










In the end I guess it is my problem, since I have the HFCs on there.

Haboob 06-24-2013 07:43 PM

And, I feel a bit silly being the guy that took his Z to the dealership to fix a fuse. :facepalm:

blackcherry20 06-24-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377552)
And, I feel a bit silly being the guy that took his Z to the dealership to fix a fuse. :facepalm:

So it was a fuse?!

kenchan 06-24-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377552)
And, I feel a bit silly being the guy that took his Z to the dealership to fix a fuse. :facepalm:

live and learn, haboob! :icon17:

gooooodpm, everyone! :hello: finally got home, had dinner, and now relaxing. :D tonight is one of those nights i dont need to hamstermill or luckygoldstarstupidtunes.

so i decided to take my nismo's to storage to work up a little sweat.

kenchan 06-24-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2377561)
So it was a fuse?!

hi msbc! :tup: it might've been something else. never know, he took his car to the dealer.

i'd be worried they removed something from my car. :icon17:

happytheman 06-24-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2376654)
:shakes head: I have Rad Worker II practicals this week...wednesday. UGH.
NOT looking forward to it...have to completely dress out in radiation protection suits....I huge ugly yellow one piece suit, 2 sets of gloves, 2 sets of booties...in a precise order donning and doffing and OMG!!!! sigh.

Hazmat suits are hot! :tup:

kenchan 06-24-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2377540)
whats the new interest rate?

hi mr. mu! :tup:

Haboob 06-24-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2377561)
So it was a fuse?!

The fuse was for the door button chime and OBD port.


The SES they won't fix, because I have HFCs installed. Gonna try the steel wool trick Chris told me about and see if that works.

kenchan 06-24-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2377577)
The fuse was for the door button chime and OBD port.


The SES they won't fix, because I have HFCs installed. Gonna try the steel wool trick Chris told me about and see if that works.

haboobs - you said you drive like a sissy. why you need all this exhaust mods if you're just driving slow? :confused: i'd remove it, and just keep the catback on there. :tup:

blackcherry20 06-24-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by happytheman (Post 2377568)
Hazmat suits are hot! :tup:

:tup:yes-they are-and NOT in a good way! Lol!!

Haboob 06-24-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2377579)
haboobs - you said you drive like a sissy. why you need all this exhaust mods if you're just driving slow? :confused: i'd remove it, and just keep the catback on there. :tup:

Because, I need to be able to hear the car! It's too quiet otherwise.


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