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Isamu 03-07-2013 06:15 PM

sup fuckers

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2201709)
Ok so here are some pics from the bachelor party in Tahoe. It was truly a wonderful time with wonderful people. There was no major drama, and no one got injured enough for a trip the hospital :tup:

Sometimes... the only goal you can set is survival :icon17:

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Loaded fridge and counter top at the beginning of the weekend :yum:
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Toboggan and aftermath of hitting a tree stump. I didn't spill my beer though :tup:
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http://i48.tinypic.com/besuqg.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/9jm9lc.jpg

if you noticed a little bit of my a$$ curvature, this photo was meant for you... enjoy!

The TV that fell on my head including mount and mounting location. Yes those are 3/8" screws holding the damn mount - 10 of em :shakes head: It was located in a cabinet about 5' off the ground. I managed to deflect it so it didn't crush me, and the floor wound up inflicting the most damage to it. My head didn't even crack the screen :icon17:
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Body bags ;)
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As you can plainly tell, the safe word was never used :icon17:

Riotous!!! Love the tobogganning spuds :tup: lololol! Made me lught out loud and the mini says "ewwwwww, i didnt need to see thatttt" on your tree stump bruise!!!

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2201874)
sup fuckers

Sucker :tup: wazzzz up :cool:

Isamu 03-07-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 2201510)
Yeah. Don't do that. I've seen some of those "gatherings". Go drive your Z instead, you'll have more self respect afterwards. It's cheaper than building "decks" too.

clearly you don't know I am trapped in the frozen wasteland

Isamu 03-07-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201876)
Sucker :tup: wazzzz up :cool:

bought to cook some steaks... wife paid me in full for a massage I gave her! :woot:

Isamu 03-07-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2201594)
Honestly, I don't know, but I can't imagine they're significantly different. The undershroud is just so damn unnecessary that I think I have to lean that way :icon17:

you have no idea about that either.. undershroud is VERY awesome.. but then again, you are just a daily driver...

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2201879)
bought to cook some steaks... wife paid me in full for a massage I gave her! :woot:

:tup: ;) :happydance:

Isamu 03-07-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201883)
:tup: ;) :happydance:

:happydance:

alcheng 03-07-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201705)
Mr.alcheng, can you explain #3?

I was talking with one of my friend a while back and the side effect of a short-shifter is it wears the shifting forks and synchros in the transmission faster.

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 06:34 PM

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:tup: how I roll...... :cool:












:bowrofl: its cold in here!!

onzedge 03-07-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201887)
I was talking with one of my friend a while back and the side effect of a short-shifter is it wears the shifting forks and synchros in the transmission faster.

:icon14: :confused: :icon14:

I have never heard that.

onzedge 03-07-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201903)
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:tup: how I roll...... :cool:












:bowrofl: its cold in here!!

Warm fuzzies!!!

Isamu 03-07-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201903)
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:tup: how I roll...... :cool:












:bowrofl: its cold in here!!

Mrs. Mu wears 2 pair lol

GaleForce 03-07-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201887)
I was talking with one of my friend a while back and the side effect of a short-shifter is it wears the shifting forks and synchros in the transmission faster.

A short shifter simply changes the fulcrum point of the shifter. That change will not effect anything mechanical.

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2201904)
:icon14: :confused: :icon14:

I have never heard that.

:iagree:

alcheng 03-07-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2201904)
:icon14: :confused: :icon14:

I have never heard that.


The talk was way back quite some years ago and his mechanic friend explain some details to him regarding the short-throw will shorter the actually shift-time thus easier to mess up the OEM synchros.

I cannot remember the details but it's always no harm to be careful/awareness :icon17:

happytheman 03-07-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2201609)
I actually managed to do my last oil change using just the flap in the stock plastic undershroud (did not remove the entire thing). Cooling isn't really a concern; I just like the look :tup: I'll see it once every few months when I do an oil change lol



Do you know any differences between the Z1, Goodrich, and Stop Tech kits?

:tiphat: I just needed one person lol TWM FTMFW :tup:

Do you have the illuminated sills? Just a thought.

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by happytheman (Post 2201949)
Do you have the illuminated sills? Just a thought.

:tup: good idea Happy.


I'm not even considering anything new until i get my splash guards, HU , and engine bay strut bar customized....

Pintsize725 03-07-2013 07:27 PM

So had one of the guys, that supposedly got fired from the previous wrap place, come over to measure the fangs and the lip. Here's hoping the estimate is low.

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 2201985)
So had one of the guys, that supposedly got fired from the previous wrap place, come over to measure the fangs and the lip. Here's hoping the estimate is low.

Uhmmmm, why did he get fired?!

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201952)
:tup: good idea Happy.


I'm not even considering anything new until i get my splash guards, HU , and engine bay strut bar customized....

Ooooohh... What are you doing?

alcheng 03-07-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201621)
1) Undershroud.... if you have problem on doing oil-change, than get it, is not... don't get it

2) mmm.... what's the benefits??

3) there's a chance it will affect the lifespan of the clutch components...

4) :tup: Nice and cheap and effective and practical

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201705)
Mr.alcheng, can you explain #3?

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201887)
I was talking with one of my friend a while back and the side effect of a short-shifter is it wears the shifting forks and synchros in the transmission faster.

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2201904)
:icon14: :confused: :icon14:

I have never heard that.

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201942)
A short shifter simply changes the fulcrum point of the shifter. That change will not effect anything mechanical.



:iagree:

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201944)
The talk was way back quite some years ago and his mechanic friend explain some details to him regarding the short-throw will shorter the actually shift-time thus easier to mess up the OEM synchros.

I cannot remember the details but it's always no harm to be careful/awareness :icon17:


Alright.. maybe my original post was a bit unclear thus I should clear up the question.

The short-throw kit will NOT directly damage the transmission or its components.

However, the shorter shift-time might lead to the following:

For example:

you are traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm

change to 3rd gear at 30mph the engine speed should drop to 3000rpm thus you depress the clutch at 3000rpm

With the OEM gear throw, let says it takes 0.5s


Now you have the short-throw...

traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm,

up-shift to 3rd... takes only 0.2s

engine speed has only drop to 3500rpm, which is not the engine speed for 3rd at 30mph....

either you depress the clutch thus you engage the clutch too early....

or you hold the clutch til the engine speed drop to 3000rpm.

^ those are the side effect I am talking about.


I hope it does make sense to you guys.... :tiphat:

but correct me if I am wrong :tiphat::tiphat:

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201994)
Alright.. maybe my original post was a bit unclear thus I should clear up the question.

The short-throw kit will NOT directly damage the transmission or its components.

However, the shorter shift-time might lead to the following:

For example:

you are traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm

change to 3rd gear at 30mph the engine speed should drop to 3000rpm thus you depress the clutch at 3000rpm

With the OEM gear throw, let says it takes 0.5s


Now you have the short-throw...

traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm,

up-shift to 3rd... takes only 0.2s

engine speed has only drop to 3500rpm, which is not the engine speed for 3rd at 30mph....

either you depress the clutch thus you engage the clutch too early....

or you hold the clutch til the engine speed drop to 3000rpm.

^ those are the side effect I am talking about.


I hope it does make sense to you guys.... :tiphat:

but correct me if I am wrong :tiphat::tiphat:

If all the text = Operator error leads to early transmission failure, then yes I agree.

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201992)
Ooooohh... What are you doing?

Well....my local body guy has paint to match my car because he custom painted the splash guards hubby got me for christmas so i was thinking ....same color as my car. Understated but i'm not flashy type. I talked to Mike on here but couldnt decide what to do....wondering though about heat resistance on it.

Pintsize725 03-07-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2201988)
Uhmmmm, why did he get fired?!

The story from the owner is that he and another guy were fired based on how my situation was handled. The story from this guy is that they both quit after seeing how my case was handled.

I figured I'd get them to compete. :)

onzedge 03-07-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201994)
Alright.. maybe my original post was a bit unclear thus I should clear up the question.

The short-throw kit will NOT directly damage the transmission or its components.

However, the shorter shift-time might lead to the following:

For example:

you are traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm

change to 3rd gear at 30mph the engine speed should drop to 3000rpm thus you depress the clutch at 3000rpm

With the OEM gear throw, let says it takes 0.5s


Now you have the short-throw...

traveling on 2nd gear 30mph@4000rpm,

up-shift to 3rd... takes only 0.2s

engine speed has only drop to 3500rpm, which is not the engine speed for 3rd at 30mph....

either you depress the clutch thus you engage the clutch too early....

or you hold the clutch til the engine speed drop to 3000rpm.

^ those are the side effect I am talking about.


I hope it does make sense to you guys.... :tiphat:

but correct me if I am wrong :tiphat::tiphat:

Sorry, but you are a little, shall I say, wrong. Ever since God invented the device called a "clutch", the transmission is not engaged as you shift --- how fast you are able to shift between gears has no impact n the tranny, as long as the clutch is fully engaged. I can ask my son, Mr. Badwrench, if you want me to go into more detail. I might be incorrect, but it's unlikely given my track record.

alcheng 03-07-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201998)
If all the text = Operator error leads to early transmission failure, then yes I agree.

it was what I was told thus it is what I post...

STS is not a must and if there is a negative potential... why risk??

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2202001)
Well....my local body guy has paint to match my car because he custom painted the splash guards hubby got me for christmas so i was thinking ....same color as my car. Understated but i'm not flashy type. I talked to Mike on here but couldnt decide what to do....wondering though about heat resistance on it.

I think it would look good. Subtle and classy :tup:

alcheng 03-07-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2201998)
If all the text = Operator error leads to early transmission failure, then yes I agree.

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2202011)
Sorry, but you are a little, shall I say, wrong. Ever since God invented the device called a "clutch", the transmission is not engaged as you shift --- how fast you are able to shift between gears has no impact n the tranny, as long as the clutch is fully engaged. I can ask my son, Mr. Badwrench, if you want me to go into more detail. I might be incorrect, but it's unlikely given my track record.


:tup:

please do so :icon17:

My point is the driver could engage a gear at an improper engine speed.

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2202022)
I think it would look good. Subtle and classy :tup:

No concerns about the paint and heat under the hood?!

I may call him tomoorow since i am off. Could i get that off alone?

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2202011)
Sorry, but you are a little, shall I say, wrong. Ever since God invented the device called a "clutch", the transmission is not engaged as you shift --- how fast you are able to shift between gears has no impact n the tranny, as long as the clutch is fully engaged. I can ask my son, Mr. Badwrench, if you want me to go into more detail. I might be incorrect, but it's unlikely given my track record.

That's my understanding, other than God inverting the clutch... but I catch your drift. :tup:

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2202011)
Sorry, but you are a little, shall I say, wrong. Ever since God invented the device called a "clutch", the transmission is not engaged as you shift --- how fast you are able to shift between gears has no impact n the tranny, as long as the clutch is fully engaged. I can ask my son, Mr. Badwrench, if you want me to go into more detail. I might be incorrect, but it's unlikely given my track record.

Yea yea yea...we know all about your track record :tup: ;) ;)

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2202034)
No concerns about the paint and heat under the hood?!

I may call him tomoorow since i am off. Could i get that off alone?

I'm not 100% certain about the effects of the engine heat on a painted strut bar. I do know forum members have done it themselves with good results. Long term, not sure.

Can you remove it yourself? I would bet yes. It requires removing 8 nuts and two plastic cowl pieces. I would make sure the plastic is somewhat warm before prying on them. Plastic tends to break easier when cold.

GaleForce 03-07-2013 07:58 PM

Looks like Jar is getting caught up on the forum, doing some mad power reading! :tup:

onzedge 03-07-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2202031)
:tup:

please do so :icon17:

My point is the driver could engage a gear at an improper engine speed.

OK -- Colin says this:

Hello Mr. Alcheng!!! He also said that both you and I are right. People with short-shifters tend to shift hard, thus potentially impacting tranny longevity in a negative way. The short-shifter itself poses little prove-able difficulties.

I have one (B&M) and I love it:

http://www.the370z.com/members/onzed...6-img-1722.jpg

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 08:10 PM

:tup: yay! Win win...gotta love a happy ending :excited:

alcheng 03-07-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2202052)
OK -- Colin says this:

Hello Mr. Alcheng!!! He also said that both you and I are right. People with short-shifters tend to shift hard, thus potentially impacting tranny longevity in a negative way. The short-shifter itself poses little prove-able difficulties.

I have one (B&M) and I love it:

http://www.the370z.com/members/onzed...6-img-1722.jpg

:hello: Mr.Badwrench…!!

Big Thanks to the onzedges :tup:

Solved two mysteries of mine this week…!! :tup:


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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2202074)
:tup: yay! Win win...gotta love a happy ending :excited:

:iagree:

blackcherry20 03-07-2013 08:27 PM

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:happydance: this cracked me up!!!!

onzedge 03-07-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2202120)
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:happydance: this cracked me up!!!!

:yum:

kenchan 03-07-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2201887)
I was talking with one of my friend a while back and the side effect of a short-shifter is it wears the shifting forks and synchros in the transmission faster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2202052)
OK -- Colin says this:

Hello Mr. Alcheng!!! He also said that both you and I are right. People with short-shifters tend to shift hard, thus potentially impacting tranny longevity in a negative way. The short-shifter itself poses little prove-able difficulties.

yah, most folks buy short throws to cut down on the shift throw time which usually means they are jamming the syncro's to work harder...thus wearing them out faster.

if one's just shifting normally (just to enjoy the shorter throw) it makes no difference in the wear. :)
for me, i just buy a shorter weighted knob to shorten the stroke. not the same as a real short throw, but it's still shorter throw. :icon17:

onzedge 03-07-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2202124)
yah, most folks buy short throws to cut down on the shift throw time which usually means they are jamming the syncro's to work harder...thus wearing them out faster.

if one's just shifting normally (just to enjoy the shorter throw) it makes no difference in the wear. :)

There it is. :tup:


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