Anyone here into firearms?

SouthArk370Z · 03-29-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ

I just noticed I accidentally swapped out my +P ammo for a standard load.
I'm not sure what I think about that. I'm not sure I'd rather carry standard over a +P load. Thoughts?

For carry purposes, I'd go with the +P if the gun will handle it. I doubt you will notice the extra recoil in an emergency and that little added oomph could come in handy.

But I don't usually carry, so take that with a grain of salt.

Ghostvette · 03-30-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ

I just noticed I accidentally swapped out my +P ammo for a standard load.

I'm not sure what I think about that. I'm not sure I'd rather carry standard over a +P load. Thoughts?

Most of the folks I train with are all about recoil management. If you and your gun can handle the +P, then go for it. A quick way to test is to load a magazine with each type. Use a silhouette target and use a stop watch to record how long it takes you to empty the mag into the 5 ring (center mass) on the target. It's better to do this outdoors, as most indoor ranges won't allow you to draw from a holster and engage a target. If it takes longer to put the +P on target, then you have your answer. Hope this helps.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Most of the folks I train with are all about recoil management. If you and your gun can handle the +P, then go for it. A quick way to test is to load a magazine with each type. Use a silhouette target and use a stop watch to record how long it takes you to empty the mag into the 5 ring (center mass) on the target. It's better to do this outdoors, as most indoor ranges won't allow you to draw from a holster and engage a target. If it takes longer to put the +P on target, then you have your answer. Hope this helps.

My weapon handles +P recoil very well. I hardly notice the difference tbo.

Ghostvette · 03-30-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ

My weapon handles +P recoil very well. I hardly notice the difference tbo.

I switched from a .45 to a .357 SIG as my carry cannon. The primary reason was recoil management. I shoot the .45 real well, but sometimes it's a struggle to put rounds on target in 'high adrenaline' situations. The 1911 only holds 8 rounds, while the SIG has 15, so another advantage to the SIG. Yes I know there are double stack .45s out there, but I'm not a fan of Glock, primarily because of the trigger, my finger tends to get pinched when I shoot one.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

I switched from a .45 to a .357 SIG as my carry cannon. The primary reason was recoil management. I shoot the .45 real well, but sometimes it's a struggle to put rounds on target in 'high adrenaline' situations. The 1911 only holds 8 rounds, while the SIG has 15, so another advantage to the SIG. Yes I know there are double stack .45s out there, but I'm not a fan of Glock, primarily because of the trigger, my finger tends to get pinched when I shoot one.

Indeed. I was looking at a Glock in .45, but the full size one is too big to be comfortable my hand and the sub compact I felt was too small for such a round. The 9mm compact 19 was just right.

VABAM · 03-30-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ

I just noticed I accidentally swapped out my +P ammo for a standard load.

I'm not sure what I think about that. I'm not sure I'd rather carry standard over a +P load. Thoughts?

It's all about hitting the target. IMO if you can shoot the standard better than the +P then carry the standard. The +P only makes a difference if you hit the target properly.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 01:30 PM

I'm with ya. I rented several pistols from a variety of manufactures and the G19 felt like a natural extension for my hand. The best weapon is one that's proven reliable (I like Glock but there are many just as reliable) that you personally can use like a mo fo.

VABAM · 03-30-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ

I'm with ya. I rented several pistols from a variety of manufactures and the G19 felt like a natural extension for my hand. The best weapon is one that's proven reliable (I like Glock but there are many just as reliable) that you personally can use like a mo fo.

I'm not a Glock guy but IMO the G19 the best size of the Glock 9mm's. Even the SEALs think so too.

If you didn't know the SEALs replaced the SIG P229 with the G19.

Well I bent the truth a little. I'm a little bit of a Glock guy.

I have a G20. 10mm

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

I'm not a Glock guy but IMO the G19 the best size of the Glock 9mm's. Even the SEALs think so too.

If you didn't know the SEALs replaced the SIG P229 with the G19.

Well I bent the truth a little. I'm a little bit of a Glock guy.

I have a G20. 10mm

I've actually been toying with getting a 10mm for entertainment purposes.

VABAM · 03-30-2016, 03:38 PM

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I've actually been toying with getting a 10mm for entertainment purposes.

Take a look at the G40. The last time I check Glock was the only company making an affordable 10mm. The G40 has a longer slide than the G20 which will help with recoil and the G40 comes standard with that optics mount that Glock is now putting on some of their long slide pistols.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 03:39 PM

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take a look at the g40. The last time i check glock was the only company making an affordable 10mm. The g40 has a longer slide than the g20 which will help with recoil and the g40 comes standard with that optics mount that glock is now putting on some of their long slide pistols.

mos?

Ghostvette · 03-30-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

I'm not a Glock guy but IMO the G19 the best size of the Glock 9mm's. Even the SEALs think so too.

If you didn't know the SEALs replaced the SIG P229 with the G19.

Well I bent the truth a little. I'm a little bit of a Glock guy.

I have a G20. 10mm

I was on the waiting list for the Dornaus (?) & Dixon 10mm (the one Don Johnson used in Miami Vice) but got my money back when they decided not to mass produce them. BOOOO....

IIRC, the only difference between the .40 & 10mm is that the 10 is a longer case, which in theory, would give it a little more muzzle velocity... TBH, I'm too lazy to look it up

VABAM · 03-30-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

I was on the waiting list for the Dornaus (?) & Dixon 10mm (the one Don Johnson used in Miami Vice) but got my money back when they decided not to mass produce them. BOOOO....

IIRC, the only difference between the .40 & 10mm is that the 10 is a longer case, which in theory, would give it a little more muzzle velocity... TBH, I'm too lazy to look it up

Yep. The 10mm OAL is similar to the 45ACP where as the 40S&W OAL is similar to the 9mm. But, remember the 10mm was first. The FBI wanted a lower power 10mm. S&W answer the call with the 40 S&W.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 03:27 PM

You are correct. Much more muzzle velocity.

BoneZ · 03-30-2016, 03:28 PM

...provided you get a full power 10mm load.

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BoneZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 54 Posts: 9,301 Drives: 2012 Blue BallZ Rep Power: 2684383	I'm with ya. I rented several pistols from a variety of manufactures and the G19 felt like a natural extension for my hand. The best weapon is one that's proven reliable (I like Glock but there are many just as reliable) that you personally can use like a mo fo. __________________ *“Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family in another city.”*-George Burns

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BoneZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 54 Posts: 9,301 Drives: 2012 Blue BallZ Rep Power: 2684383	You are correct. Much more muzzle velocity. __________________ *“Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family in another city.”*-George Burns

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BoneZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 54 Posts: 9,301 Drives: 2012 Blue BallZ Rep Power: 2684383	...provided you get a full power 10mm load. __________________ *“Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family in another city.”*-George Burns