Anyone here into firearms?

m4a1mustang · 06-24-2011, 09:16 AM

I might actually buy two. One for my house and another for the gf's apartment.

wstar · 06-24-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I might actually buy two. One for my house and another for the gf's apartment.

Just don't get sucked into the hype about loading birdshot for self defense because it penetrates walls less. The bottom line on that crap is anything that doesn't penetrate interior walls also won't slow down a determined aggressor. Just gotta learn the layout and know which directions you can safely shoot, and weight the risks properly. #1 buck usually comes up best in self-defense-oriented ammo tests for shotguns.

Isamu · 06-24-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Just don't get sucked into the hype about loading birdshot for self defense because it penetrates walls less. The bottom line on that crap is anything that doesn't penetrate interior walls also won't slow down a determined aggressor. Just gotta learn the layout and know which directions you can safely shoot, and weight the risks properly. #1 buck usually comes up best in self-defense-oriented ammo tests for shotguns.

for all the non-gun folks... ill translate..

don't use bird shot, because it's just going to piss the person trying to kill you off. and he will be more brutal when he cuts out your kidneys to sell on the black market

MacCool · 06-24-2011, 03:36 PM

.223/5.56 NATO out of a "Black Rifle" will generally penetrate typical home interior walls less than most handgun and shotgun ammo. Many people tout the 5.56 NATO round as a better home defensive round for that reason.

tvfreakazoid · 06-25-2011, 04:55 AM

I'm about to buy an arsenal ak sgl21-61 probably within a week.

dad · 06-29-2011, 01:26 AM

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Nothing surprises me when it comes to Cali's nanny-state government. I'm still 50/50 on whether they fall off into the ocean due to earthquake or collapse under the weight of their failed society first. I just wish they'd go down with the ship instead of slinking over to the good states and trying to infect our politics with the same disease :P

Don't blame the gun owners, it's the chicken **** California politicians!

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Originally Posted by wstar

Just don't get sucked into the hype about loading birdshot for self defense because it penetrates walls less. The bottom line on that crap is anything that doesn't penetrate interior walls also won't slow down a determined aggressor. Just gotta learn the layout and know which directions you can safely shoot, and weight the risks properly. #1 buck usually comes up best in self-defense-oriented ammo tests for shotguns.

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m4a1mustang · 06-24-2011, 10:00 AM

Yeah I am not planning on using birdshot for a defensive load.

m4a1mustang · 06-26-2011, 08:13 AM

Just picked up my 870 yesterday, along with a variety of shells to go with it. Need to get out and shoot it sometime in the near future. I'm ordering some accessories for it... collapsible & folding stock, fore-end with rails, surefire mount, shotshell holder, etc.

Isamu · 06-26-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Just picked up my 870 yesterday, along with a variety of shells to go with it. Need to get out and shoot it sometime in the near future. I'm ordering some accessories for it... collapsible & folding stock, fore-end with rails, surefire mount, shotshell holder, etc.

SgtGoldy · 06-26-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Just picked up my 870 yesterday, along with a variety of shells to go with it. Need to get out and shoot it sometime in the near future. I'm ordering some accessories for it... collapsible & folding stock, fore-end with rails, surefire mount, shotshell holder, etc.

I have a mossy 500 tactical persuader. AR stock, picatinny rail, reddot, breachers barrel, shot holder. Ill post sum pics up later

EazyD · 06-26-2011, 08:39 PM

My scary S&W .500 moment on Fathers' Day:

and if you don't know what a .500 is.....

Except we were shooting 700 grain loads. (there are 7000 grains in a pound... so 10 of these bullets (bullet, not the shell, powder, primer) is a pound!) The 700 grain looks like a shotgun slug. Huuuge.

Isamu · 06-26-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EazyD

My scary S&W .500 moment on Fathers' Day:

and if you don't know what a .500 is.....

Except we were shooting 700 grain loads. (there are 7000 grains in a pound... so 10 of these bullets (bullet, not the shell, powder, primer) is a pound!) The 700 grain looks like a shotgun slug. Huuuge.

that's crazy!

SgtGoldy · 06-26-2011, 10:36 PM

-Breaching barrel
-Picatinny rail
-SightMark QD Ultra
-Collapsible ATI Stock
-Fore-end Strap
-Shell SaddleBag (only three shots there cuz I need to go buy more lol)

I wanted to get another eotech... but thought (wow I'm not made of money....) and went with another brand. I took a bit of a gamble getting this reddot (original price 150. I found it for 100 after sum intense googling lol). This SightMark has held up to several hundred rounds of 12g. Keeps zero pretty darn well, but I can honestly say it is no eotech. But then again neither is the price. Its a reflex sight, not a holo.

m4a1mustang · 06-26-2011, 10:47 PM

How do you like the ATI stock? Im reading mixed reviews on ATI in general. I only paid like 350 for the gun so honestly I don't care if I have designer **** on it or not, Ijust want it to work and be reliable.

SgtGoldy · 06-26-2011, 10:53 PM

it hurts.... lol. Not forgiving at all. If you want an awesome shotty stock, blackhawk is where its at IMO. I have shot the blackhawk stock and its felt recoil is minimal. But the ATI... man you feel it all haha. But its cheap so, I guess thats the upside

06-24-2011, 09:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I might actually buy two. One for my house and another for the gf's apartment. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Yeah I am not planning on using birdshot for a defensive load. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-26-2011, 08:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Just picked up my 870 yesterday, along with a variety of shells to go with it. Need to get out and shoot it sometime in the near future. I'm ordering some accessories for it... collapsible & folding stock, fore-end with rails, surefire mount, shotshell holder, etc. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-26-2011, 08:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
EazyD A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,211 Drives: 2010 6MT Sport pkg. Rep Power: 27	.500 Smith & Wesson My scary S&W .500 moment on Fathers' Day: and if you don't know what a .500 is..... Except we were shooting 700 grain loads. (there are 7000 grains in a pound... so 10 of these bullets (bullet, not the shell, powder, primer) is a pound!) The 700 grain looks like a shotgun slug. Huuuge. __________________ Pearl White 2010 370Z Sport, Stillen CBE, tint, K&N drop-in filters, GT-R start button, Kenwood DNX-6980 with backup cam, LED bulbs, Raceseng shift knob. Last edited by EazyD; 06-26-2011 at 08:41 PM.

06-24-2011, 03:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 18	.223/5.56 NATO out of a "Black Rifle" will generally penetrate typical home interior walls less than most handgun and shotgun ammo. Many people tout the 5.56 NATO round as a better home defensive round for that reason.

06-26-2011, 10:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 652	-Breaching barrel -Picatinny rail -SightMark QD Ultra -Collapsible ATI Stock -Fore-end Strap -Shell SaddleBag (only three shots there cuz I need to go buy more lol) I wanted to get another eotech... but thought (wow I'm not made of money....) and went with another brand. I took a bit of a gamble getting this reddot (original price 150. I found it for 100 after sum intense googling lol). This SightMark has held up to several hundred rounds of 12g. Keeps zero pretty darn well, but I can honestly say it is no eotech. But then again neither is the price. Its a reflex sight, not a holo. __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo Last edited by SgtGoldy; 06-26-2011 at 10:42 PM. Reason: added another photo

06-26-2011, 10:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	How do you like the ATI stock? Im reading mixed reviews on ATI in general. I only paid like 350 for the gun so honestly I don't care if I have designer ** on it or not, Ijust want it to work and be reliable. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!**

06-26-2011, 10:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 652	it hurts.... lol. Not forgiving at all. If you want an awesome shotty stock, blackhawk is where its at IMO. I have shot the blackhawk stock and its felt recoil is minimal. But the ATI... man you feel it all haha. But its cheap so, I guess thats the upside __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo