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Old 12-23-2011, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cutting those barrels down (chrome-lined) to make an SBR version of the USC and PS-90 and threading them for your muzzle device can be tricky business, I'm told - I'd sure want it done by a very experienced gunsmith. Likewise, the NFA engraving necessary for NFA registration is something you'd want done by someone like Orion Arms.
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Went to a gun store yesterday with a friend of mine and got to see and hold a H&K USC as well as a FNH PS-90 while he was picking up some things. Now that I have actually seen them in person, I really, really want to get them. I think I'll try for the H&K first then get the PS90 later. Then eventually get the stamp to make them SBRs legally.
I heard a rumor that they are coming out with a civilian version of MP7 (which I believe you are firing in your avatar picture). If that were available would you be interested in that as well? I would think the ammo would be very espensive though.

The other day a friend of mine pulled out a Sig Sauer P556 Pistol and let me have at it....OMG, talk about fun! It definitely isn't as controled and precise as a SMG, but the "fear of God" factor is pretty high. It is so small too, so you wouldn't have to cut it down or get any special permits for it. I just thought I would throw it out there as I am now seeing owning one in my future.
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The other day a friend of mine pulled out a Sig Sauer P556 Pistol and let me have at it....OMG, talk about fun! It definitely isn't as controled and precise as a SMG, but the "fear of God" factor is pretty high. It is so small too, so you wouldn't have to cut it down or get any special permits for it. I just thought I would throw it out there as I am now seeing owning one in my future.
Do a thorough search on the various gun forums regarding the quality of construction of current model SIG guns. General consensus IMHO is that this is a bad time in history to buy a SIG firearm, but check it out for yourself.

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Do a thorough search on the various gun forums regarding the quality of construction of current model SIG guns. General consensus IMHO is that this is a bad time in history to buy a SIG firearm, but check it out for yourself.

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Thanks for the heads-up on SIGs. The same day that I shot the P556 pistol there was a guy at the range that had just bought a Sig Sauer 1911 STX which he paid big bucks for and was very excited to shoot. Unfortunately the firing pic did not strike the primer enough for it to function...what a bummer. So with what I have seen on the forums and what happened there it does concern me.

I just submitted my concealed-carry permit application, so my next firearm will be something small...probably either a Glock auto-loader, or a S&W (or Ruger) snub-nose, hammerless revolver. I will be a lot more comfortable with any of those.

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I wouldn't cut down a barrel, I would just buy the shorter barrel and keep the original one as a backup. either way it would cost quite a bit of money
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I would probably not buy a civilian version of an mp7. I would imagine the ammo would be expensive as crap. While the USC is firing a 45acp, which would be much cheaper.
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My check to the BATF cleared, now just waiting for my tax-stamp for the FA556-212. Here is the host...










Noveske complete N4 w/VIS/MUR (VLTOR) monolithic upper and Noveske Switchblock
LMT SOPMOD stock
M300A light
LaRue FUG
Geissele SSA trigger
TA44SG-10 ACOG
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Surefire 212a suppressor mount/FH
AWM 20 round magazines (filled with MK318 MOD 0 SOST)
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My check to the BATF cleared, now just waiting for my tax-stamp for the FA556-212. Here is the host...




Noveske complete N4 w/VIS/MUR (VLTOR) monolithic upper and Noveske Switchblock
LMT SOPMOD stock
M300A light
LaRue FUG
Geissele SSA trigger
TA44SG-10 ACOG
Noveske branded Troy BUIS
LaRue mounts for light/optic
Surefire 212a suppressor mount/FH
AWM 20 round magazines (filled with MK318 MOD 0 SOST)
BCM Gunfighter CH
Nice rifle. Top quality all the way.

I hope your stamp comes earlier than the 3-5 months some of them are taking.
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Nice rifle. Top quality all the way.

I hope your stamp comes earlier than the 3-5 months some of them are taking.
Thanks! I'm expecting 5-6 months. Anything sooner, and I will be happy. It's how I am going about this. Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.

Thing is, once I have it, I have it. Barrier to entry only makes it cooler. If everyone drive an F458, they would get boring fast

I built this AR to be my one semi-auto 5.56 platform. No compromises. Sadly, it's worth more than my 2002 G20 daily-driver in perfect mechanical condition even without the can, lol
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Thanks! I'm expecting 5-6 months. Anything sooner, and I will be happy. It's how I am going about this. Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.

Thing is, once I have it, I have it. Barrier to entry only makes it cooler. If everyone drive an F458, they would get boring fast

I built this AR to be my one semi-auto 5.56 platform. No compromises. Sadly, it's worth more than my 2002 G20 daily-driver in perfect mechanical condition even without the can, lol
No compromise is right. Really nice stuff.

Virtually all of my rifles are built on Noveske uppers and lowers, and I have one Light Recce w/VIS. I think the VIS adds a little weight to the package but it's absolutely rigid and I think makes for a better rifle. That rifle has had about 6000 rounds through it, including 2000 rounds at a 3-day carbine course where all I did was oil it (no cleaning) -- has functioned flawlessly.

My only mishap with that Noveske rifle has been that the rear Troy sight fell off (lack of LocTite). Unfortunately, it fell off right at Jeff Gonzales' feet at that last TriCon course. I did not become "that guy", but it was not an impressive event.
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No compromise is right. Really nice stuff.

Virtually all of my rifles are built on Noveske uppers and lowers, and I have one Light Recce w/VIS. I think the VIS adds a little weight to the package but it's absolutely rigid and I think makes for a better rifle. That rifle has had about 6000 rounds through it, including 2000 rounds at a 3-day carbine course where all I did was oil it (no cleaning) -- has functioned flawlessly.

My only mishap with that Noveske rifle has been that the rear Troy sight fell off (lack of LocTite). Unfortunately, it fell off right at Jeff Gonzales' feet at that last TriCon course. I did not become "that guy", but it was not an impressive event.
The first thing I did was remove both F/R Troy's and apply blue lock-tite after alcohol-ing the screw.

I really like the VIS. I like to be able to wipe down the external barrel with CLP to protect against corrosion here in the humid south, but I don't like the idea of re-zeroing my BUIS every time I remove the rail to do it. The VLTOR VIS eliminates this issue. Further, I just think it looks cooler. As to weight, it's not a very heavy "rail". It may add 1/4#, but that's the max I would guess.

VLTOR is a VERY good company, as well. They are a division of Abrams. The company that helps NASA put things into outer-space and designs military-grade electronic housings (they know how to heat-sink things...)

I spoke with Kino for about a half hour about the MUR before I was finally on board with it. The amount of engineering in just the MUR is astounding. Cryo treatment, etc. He even e-mailed me pictures of multiple MUR's that had held together during fired OOB incidents. I was impressed!

The ultimate reason I prefer and went with the MUR and VIS for this setup was rigidity. I am going to be hanging 16oz off the end of the barrel. I wanted the most rigid receiver I could get to minimize POI shift. Noveske's re-profiled barrel is also VERY rigid, and they absolutely know how to concentrically thread it.

The thing most people question about my setup is the TA44SG-10.

If you have never tried it, you need to. All that babbling about the Bindon Aiming Concept finally makes sense when you move to 1.5X magnification.

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...Virtually all of my rifles are built on Noveske uppers and lowers...
Where the heck can you buy a Noveske upper and lower? The gun dealers around here say they are virtually impossible to get nowadays. I have looked at the online stores but they are always out of stock. Any suggestions?
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