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6MT 07-20-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2900847)
Frog Lube FTW! :tup:

I can clean guns in front of the TV and no one complains about the smell.
Easier/faster cleaning after the Frog Lube has completely soaked in.
The best part it is bio-based.
No harsh/toxic chemicals!



Any way.

Got a new "toy"! :happydance:

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IWI Tavor SAR FD16 (Flat top 16.5" barrel 5.56NATO)
Aimpoint Micro T1 with Larue Tactical quick release mount.
Dimondhead flip up sights.
Surefire X300 Ultra.
30" UTG Alpha Battle Carrier pack

About 300 rounds through it so far.
Love it! :tup:

:worthless:

VABAM 07-20-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2902216)
:worthless:

You want more pics or did you miss the hidden "spoiler" pics?

Either way I'll post some more pics later this week. :tup:

6MT 07-20-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2902384)
You want more pics or did you miss the hidden "spoiler" pics?

Either way I'll post some more pics later this week. :tup:

Ahhh.....yeah.

VABAM 07-20-2014 09:00 PM

Remembered that I took some quick cell phone pics the day I got it.
Size comparison pics of my Tavor to my ACR.
Both have 16.5" barrels

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tvfreakazoid 07-21-2014 05:08 AM

I ordered a tavor. But since I live in Kali I have to wait a few days, add a bullet button and a muzzle extension(overall length or OAL) needs to b 30"😢😤.
Until I move out I have to deal

tvfreakazoid 07-21-2014 05:12 AM

How do u like ur acr? From doing a little research it seems Remington makes the military or LE version of the acr that the civilians can't own. Which sucks cause the the Remington version looks better. Even though it doesn't have the foldable stock.
I wished I could change the ejection port on the left side. Just like the scar.

FYI Mudders milk is delish

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2902500)
Remembered that I took some quick cell phone pics the day I got it.
Size comparison pics of my Tavor to my ACR.
Both have 16.5" barrels

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VABAM 07-21-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2902671)
I ordered a tavor. But since I live in Kali I have to wait a few days, add a bullet button and a muzzle extension(overall length or OAL) needs to b 30"😢😤.
Until I move out I have to deal

Even with the ridiculous mods needed for it to be legal in Cali, I would take a Tavor over an AR-15 or similar rifle any day. The balance and ergos of the Tavor are superior IMO. The last time I had mine at the range I was able to shoot it one handed and be, as some people say, "combat effective" very easily.

Once you get yours I highly recommend removing the secondary sear reset spring (fully reversible) like shown in this video.
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After removing the secondary sear reset I feel no need to get an aftermarket trigger.

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2902672)
How do u like ur acr? From doing a little research it seems Remington makes the military or LE version of the acr that the civilians can't own. Which sucks cause the the Remington version looks better. Even though it doesn't have the foldable stock.
I wished I could change the ejection port on the left side. Just like the scar.

FYI Mudders milk is delish

The Remington has been constantly improving the Remington ACR, just not the Bushmaster ACR (BACR). The non-folding stocking version you saw was most likely the version of the Remington ACR that was submitted for the Individual Carbine Program a few years ago.

I like my BACR but I have lost faith with Bushmaster/Remington with regards to the BACR . So many broken promises with regard to caliber conversions and the availability of different spec barrels. The 6.8 conversion kits do exists but are consider unicorns. All the barrels I've seen have been custom one-offs. The BACR is a good rifle. I would take an BACR over a SCAR 16S. Now the SCAR 17S is another story.

The SCAR can not be converted to left side eject. Now you can swap the side of the charging handle. Same with the ACR.



BTW: Stay Shiny and Bring the Grenades! :tup:

TheBoomSpoon 07-21-2014 07:44 PM

I also like music and reveiving Bjs and steak

JNews86 07-21-2014 11:59 PM

Got the Glock 19 and 26. Looking to purchase a few things ASAP.

Vegitto-kun 07-22-2014 02:24 AM

like I personally don't like how the gun laws are in the states.

I still want to go to a shooting range. living in belgium = never holding a gun ever.

I am in texas now though so I should bug the wife to take me to a shooting range.

exsanity 07-22-2014 02:31 AM

I thought they gave out loaner pistols at the airport in Texas.. :rofl2:

tvfreakazoid 07-22-2014 05:38 AM

I was thinking of getting the geiselle trigger group for the tavor when it comes put but at $350 its kind of pricey.
I'll definitely take out the secondary spring.

Its to bad we can't buy the Remington acr version cause personally its better than the bushmaster acr.
I don't get why they don't follow the Remington's version.
I think the acr is better than the scar. From what I read the acr is a bit heavier than the scar


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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2903615)
Even with the ridiculous mods needed for it to be legal in Cali, I would take a Tavor over an AR-15 or similar rifle any day. The balance and ergos of the Tavor are superior IMO. The last time I had mine at the range I was able to shoot it one handed and be, as some people say, "combat effective" very easily.

Once you get yours I highly recommend removing the secondary sear reset spring (fully reversible) like shown in this video.
( Click to show/hide )

After removing the secondary sear reset I feel no need to get an aftermarket trigger.



The Remington has been constantly improving the Remington ACR, just not the Bushmaster ACR (BACR). The non-folding stocking version you saw was most likely the version of the Remington ACR that was submitted for the Individual Carbine Program a few years ago.

I like my BACR but I have lost faith with Bushmaster/Remington with regards to the BACR . So many broken promises with regard to caliber conversions and the availability of different spec barrels. The 6.8 conversion kits do exists but are consider unicorns. All the barrels I've seen have been custom one-offs. The BACR is a good rifle. I would take an BACR over a SCAR 16S. Now the SCAR 17S is another story.

The SCAR can not be converted to left side eject. Now you can swap the side of the charging handle. Same with the ACR.



BTW: Stay Shiny and Bring the Grenades! :tup:


VABAM 07-22-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2904039)
I was thinking of getting the geiselle trigger group for the tavor when it comes put but at $350 its kind of pricey.
I'll definitely take out the secondary spring.

Its to bad we can't buy the Remington acr version cause personally its better than the bushmaster acr.
I don't get why they don't follow the Remington's version.
I think the acr is better than the scar. From what I read the acr is a bit heavier than the scar

I wouldn't waste the money on an aftermarket trigger. Now if you are going scope your Tavor and try to maximize your Tavor's accuracy then I would consider an aftermarket trigger. For home/personal defense the stock trigger with the secondary sear spring removed is just fine. Just my :twocents:

I agree. Remington/Bushmaster dropped the ball big time with ACR. If they had made the Bushmaster ACR exactly like the Remington ACR but only in semi-auto and had delivered on the quick swapping multi-cal promise, the ACR would have blown the SCAR 16S out of the water.

VABAM 07-25-2014 03:03 PM

For grins I photoshopped what a pin and welded Tavor with an AAC Brakeout would look like. :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/members/vabam...-look-like.jpg

MacCool 07-25-2014 04:42 PM

Well, I picked up an HK VP9. I don't anticipate that it will add much of an improvement over the PPQ that I've been shooting for a couple of years but I've never owned an HK before and I'm curious to see how it shoots by comparison the the excellent PPQ. Here's what I know so far:
  • ergonomics feel very similar to the PPQ. I have more than 6000 rounds through my PPQ and holding one then the other with my eyes closed, I can't really feel much difference. Both feel great. My hands are a little on the small side, I'll have to try the smaller grip panels on the VP9. With the PPQ, the smaller backstrap feels better, but I shoot the PPQ noticeably better with the medium backstrap.
  • trigger pull - average of 10 pulls...5 lbs 6 oz for the PPQ, 6 lbs 4 oz for the VP9 (Lyman electronic trigger gauge). The PPQ has a lot of rounds through it, the VP9 has none.
  • dry firing...nice crisp break on both. Both are excellent. Take up feels a little longer on the the PPQ (for me, takeup is irrelevant). Can't tell anything about reset without shooting both side by side.
  • size is approximately the same. VP9 is a hair longer in the grip. I can't really tell the difference carrying one vs the other OWB in a leather belt scabbard.
  • weight (with magazine, unloaded)...PPQ 1 lb 9.2 oz, VP9 1 lb 10.6 oz
  • VP9 fits fine in an old Tagua HK45 leather holster I had sitting around. I'll make a kydex holster for it this weekend.
  • quality of construction, fit/finish...both are excellent. I'd call them equal
  • so far, I like the charging ears on the VP9. Nice touch, especially for those of us who rack the slide rather than use the slide release
  • slide release placement is nice on both. I have no difficulty with either, although I typically don't use it.

http://ssequine.net/vp9ppqs.jpg


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