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Originally Posted by JWillis72 My 308 AR has a Miculek brake and has next to no recoil but it send a hell of a blast at anyone sitting next to

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Old 04-02-2015, 02:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My 308 AR has a Miculek brake and has next to no recoil but it send a hell of a blast at anyone sitting next to you and will clear the tables beside you. I'm not sure if they make it in 556 or not but I would think they do.


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My 13 year old daughter who is very tiny shoots my 308 with no complaints.
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My 13 year old daughter who is very tiny shoots my 308 with no complaints.
Awesome. At 100 yards for sets of 10 I was pretty much full torso all over. I'm looking forward to getting down to about a cantaloupe or close to it size.
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Awesome. At 100 yards for sets of 10 I was pretty much full torso all over. I'm looking forward to getting down to about a cantaloupe or close to it size.
No offense, but that's probably not the rifle's fault. At 100 yards, you should be inside the nine ring (center mass) on a man-sized torso target. I used to put rounds in the X ring at 200 yards with an issue rifle, it's all practice, and the fundamentals (sight alignment, sight picture, breathing and trigger control).

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If you are all over the target, that points out a problem with sight alignment/sight picture. Low and to the left is an issue with 'bucking' (anticipating the shot), high and to the right, jerking the trigger. There is a target out there that has those things marked off on the target, so you can focus on fixing them. I wouldn't put too much stock in YouTube 'sled tests', it takes time and practice to become proficient with a firearm, no amount of 'tacti-cool' stuff is a substitute for time behind the trigger.
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... If you are all over the target, that points out a problem with sight alignment/sight picture. ...
An AO (adjustable objective) scope may help. And a good barrel cleaning.

I was having a lot of trouble placing decent-sized groups with my air rifles at only 25 feet. Groups were >1.5" and all over the place. Cleaned the barrels real good (I usually just use a swab; used a brass brush this time) and that made a lot of difference but still not what I wanted.

Read up on technique and did some more practice but still not as tight as I wanted.

Figured out that most scopes are set for 100 yards, thus I had some big parallax problems at 25 feet. Got an AO scope that I could adjust down to 25 feet and can now fire three shots that touch each other (when the barrel is spotless and I'm having a good day).
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No offense, but that's probably not the rifle's fault. At 100 yards, you should be inside the nine ring (center mass) on a man-sized torso target. I used to put rounds in the X ring at 200 yards with an issue rifle, it's all practice, and the fundamentals (sight alignment, sight picture, breathing and trigger control).

My observations:

If you are all over the target, that points out a problem with sight alignment/sight picture. Low and to the left is an issue with 'bucking' (anticipating the shot), high and to the right, jerking the trigger. There is a target out there that has those things marked off on the target, so you can focus on fixing them. I wouldn't put too much stock in YouTube 'sled tests', it takes time and practice to become proficient with a firearm, no amount of 'tacti-cool' stuff is a substitute for time behind the trigger.
None taken but I'm just running and gunning at the in-laws down in a river bed with a huge ravine on the move jumping over stuff. This isn't for competition for now. In the real world targets don't sit still nor do you have a while to set up. I'm just moving, raising up and firing as fast as possible and moving again. I'm happy to even hit the target through trees and branches. The brake will definitely help climb and keep the scope from bouncing though. This Saturday I'll go again with some new targets I bought that I think are like 14" circle. I can try for a 9" ring but again I'm literally just pulling the trigger as fast as possible and staying on target. If it was a bad guy he'd still be out
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My 13 year old daughter who is very tiny shoots my 308 with no complaints.
Well of course it's sold out . Found this at a similar price. Couldn't hurt to try I guess right?

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I did a lot USPSA , subgun matches and steel challenge matches for several years. My guess is a fraction of a second more of getting a sight picture will tighten up your group. In USPSA there is a lot of running and shooting from odd positions and angles but as long as you have the sight picture and pull the trigger correctly it not a big deal.


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@rusty my shield doesn't bulge my cases. At least the ones I've picked up. I don't reload them.

Also I think someone else mentioned they needed to replace the trigger on their new shield with the apex duty kit. IMHO it doesn't need it. But hey it can't hurt. Compared to the trigger on the full sized it's a damn good trigger. The full size is terrible. So much mushy slop. I will be doing an apex kit for that after I put another few hundred rounds through it.
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@rusty my shield doesn't bulge my cases. At least the ones I've picked up. I don't reload them.

Also I think someone else mentioned they needed to replace the trigger on their new shield with the apex duty kit. IMHO it doesn't need it. But hey it can't hurt. Compared to the trigger on the full sized it's a damn good trigger. The full size is terrible. So much mushy slop. I will be doing an apex kit for that after I put another few hundred rounds through it.
my shield doesn't bulge cases either.

I have the APEX trigger on it. The original trigger is absolute garbage. It's a widely known downfall. Great gun! even better with the trigger work!
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@rusty my shield doesn't bulge my cases. At least the ones I've picked up. I don't reload them.

Also I think someone else mentioned they needed to replace the trigger on their new shield with the apex duty kit. IMHO it doesn't need it. But hey it can't hurt. Compared to the trigger on the full sized it's a damn good trigger. The full size is terrible. So much mushy slop. I will be doing an apex kit for that after I put another few hundred rounds through it.
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my shield doesn't bulge cases either.

I have the APEX trigger on it. The original trigger is absolute garbage. It's a widely known downfall. Great gun! even better with the trigger work!
My wife's Shield bulged the cases so bad, that I sent it back to S&W. They sent it back saying that there is nothing wrong. What I did find out is that the case is unsupported on the feed ramp on some barrels. A couple guys got new barrels. This is only on the 9mm.

I have the complete Apex kit on my MP40 Pro Series. It's worth it.
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I have the APEX trigger on it. The original trigger is absolute garbage. It's a widely known downfall. Great gun! even better with the trigger work!
Triggers in my M&P's have been great. APEX is "meh". I tried a full APEX setup ($200+!) and it felt much worse to me. The owner of the APEX M&P was mad as hell, too, considering my box-stock M&P9 was noticeably nicer. He was running around having everyone who's department issued M&P's look at mine and demanded I strip it down to prove it was OEM, lol
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