MP5 HK is cool looking, but its a bitch to actually clean. If you're wanting a 22lr rifle stick with the tried and true Ruger 10/22

But for $500, you can build a decent AR15 from Palmetto state armory. That's what I would do

I agree, but I also agree that the .22 is boring

What would you get then DE? :hello:

:gtfo2: we have guns... LOL!

Can we still make fun of the UK's dumb laws? PLEEEEEASE?



Oh, want some kick? Let's go shooting, try out the DEpointfive0 (no homo pun not intended)

Either a 9mm handgun, or... That really shitty brand... I forgot... They make $150 guns, but get AMAZING reviews (so I guess not shitty, just cheap as hell). They make a 9mm rifle.

Save your money for ammo! Lol

For a general use handgun it's hard to beat a 9mm. Not a lot of kick (but more than a .22LR/WMR) but enough power for home protection, if needed. Ammo is cheap, especially if you get FMJs for plinking. Many styles of bullets available. With a $500 budget, you should be able to get a nice Glock 9mm but, for just having fun, I'd go with something a little cheaper. YMMV

Edit: I have an old 9mm Walther P-4 (German military/police version of the P-38). It's a heavy gun but very reliable, has an excellent unobtrusive safety system, and is easy to break down and clean. I'd buy another P-4/P-38 in a heartbeat.

Any cons on buying used? Thanks!

Buy from a reputable dealer and you should be OK. Don't be afraid to ask to break the gun down for inspection.

If buying from an individual, the usual kick-the-tires routine should be used. Most guns are, by nature, pretty rugged and will last a life-time (and longer) with a little TLC. But if they've been abused, avoid at all costs.

Guess I'm going to hold off on a .22 rifle for now. I started looking at 9mm handguns and I am liking the Walther PPQ. Not going to lie...it looks cool.

Walther PPQ is an exceptional handgun. Very accurate, very rugged, exceptional trigger out of the box. I have 6000 rounds through mine...bought a second one after dumping my POS Glock 19. Only handgun I've ever owned that I liked enough to own two of the same model. The PPQ is superior to the Glock in nearly every way.

Hi-point

I love sig. The sp2022 is everything sig but in a poly frame. $399 retail brand new for a 9mm with 15 round mag.

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If I were only going to have one pistol, it would be either my G17 or 19. Reliable, cheap(ish), parts are cheap and everywhere. It's the iPod of guns. Sure, there are better options out there, but there's a reason it's the go-to. If you're going to end up with a collection, get whatever you want since firearms breed like rabbits apparently. Or, you could scrap the whole 9mm idea and go buy yourself a 1911. Every man should own at least one .45.

As far as the .22lr rifle, go get a used Ruger 10/22 and build it up. They're dirt cheap and easy to work on. I found my old one in my parents house years back. Literally kept nothing but the receiver. New stock, barrel, trigger, bolt, etc. Now the only problem is finding decent .22 ammo since the manufacturers gave up on it to make calibers people were stockpiling. :rolleyes:

I have a Sig P229 in .40 caliber that I've owned since about 1997. Fantastic handgun. (It's for sale, by the way...) but it's a German frame from before the days they were made in the US.

Since then, I've been warned repeatedly by firearms trainers and Sig armorers about the quality of Sig manufacture since the changeover in 2003. Sig quality, or lack thereof, has been discussed a lot on a lot of firearms forums for several years now. Before buying a current Sig, I'd cruise the forums a lot, Google "Sig quality control", and investigate the issue.

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I've heard the same things about current Sig quality. I've had no issues with my P226 XFive, but that's a little different than the regular product line. It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. I've got a high-dollar Les Baer bullseye gun, and the Sig outshoots it handily.