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m4a1mustang 01-20-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2121484)
This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

That's not actually true. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd Amendment CAN be restricted. A magazine capacity limit, if passed by Congress, would be 100% lawful, and you would be 100% breaking the law.

6MT 01-20-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2121484)
This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...:nutswinger:

tvfreakazoid 01-21-2013 02:42 AM

I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes.

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar.

So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this.

BlackZeda 01-21-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2121981)
So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

MacCool 01-21-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2121475)
But if you use a CMT/Barrett lower on a LWRC parts kit, American Gold/Geisselle trigger, Troy Sights/ Adams arms foregrip and possibly an AApiston system, throw in Magpul miad grips, Magpul CTR/ACS stock FN/Green moutain or Wison combat barrel. Cerakote your parts and pay attention to detail.

If you do all of those things, you'll have a great firearm. If you build it that way and decide to sell it (in a normal marketplace), you would end up getting more money by parting it out.

Frankenguns just don't have the resale value no matter what parts go into them.

MacCool 01-21-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2122108)
You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

A conventional Stoner-design AR is a true expanding gas piston gun too and not direct impingement. It's just that the piston is the bolt carrier group and there is no actuating rod. Direct impingement is something else.

m4a1mustang 01-21-2013 02:01 PM

Stopped by a local gun shop today... depressing sight to say the least.

UNKNOWN_370 01-21-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2122316)
If you do all of those things, you'll have a great firearm. If you build it that way and decide to sell it (in a normal marketplace), you would end up getting more money by parting it out.

Frankenguns just don't have the resale value no matter what parts go into them.

Yeah but again, my point was the QUALITY of firearm would be in that price range of guns $2200? Thats whatyou're not getting. I didn't make that statement in terms of actually selling the gun. I meant performance value.

UNKNOWN_370 01-21-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2121803)
Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...:nutswinger:

I was going to respond you but....





Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????



:

m4a1mustang 01-21-2013 04:32 PM

now now boys. :)

edub370 01-21-2013 05:37 PM

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...ut-75-done.jpg

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

6MT 01-21-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2123064)
I was going to respond you but....





Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????



:

Bahahahahaha!

UNKNOWN_370 01-21-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2123263)
Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...ut-75-done.jpg

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho


Amazon.com, you can find a leapers UTG buffer assembly. UTG buffers are pretty good quality and low priced. You can get that now to make your rifle functional. THen get something HQ later. For the price. You can't go wrong with the UTG buffer assembly.

tvfreakazoid 01-22-2013 04:53 AM

I realized i was mistaken about the DI ar.
Thanks. :tup:

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2122108)
You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!


MacCool 01-22-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2123027)
Yeah but again, my point was the QUALITY of firearm would be in that price range of guns $2200? Thats whatyou're not getting. I didn't make that statement in terms of actually selling the gun. I meant performance value.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that.


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