The370z Useless Thread Part IV

[Davey]

Anybody know where I can get a wireless mouse for my Windows 8 phone?

Nah, I'm kidding, I don't have one of those.

[Lemers]

Shado as much as I love you man (in a bro sort of way). You a getting hung up on "apps is software".

The difference is that apps are only available in the apps store for what ever device in question. iPhone/iPad has iTunes , windows now has an apps store.

When I as a customer ask "what the difference in windows RT and windows 8?" the answer is the RT only runs apps and windows 8 runs apps and software.

I believe the average person understands that apps are software, but windows RT only will run it if it came from its "app store" while windows 8 will run if from the App Store and the box off the self from the store.

My point was though I believe that as people buy more and more from the apps stores less software will be made for purchase in the store til one day OSes in the future will only run apps from the App Store.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by Lemers

Shado as much as I love you man (in a bro sort of way). You a getting hung up on "apps is software".

The difference is that apps are only available in the apps store for what ever device in question. iPhone/iPad has iTunes , windows now has an apps store.

When I as a customer ask "what the difference in windows RT and windows 8?" the answer is the RT only runs apps and windows 8 runs apps and software.

I believe the average person understands that apps are software, but windows RT only will run it if it came from its "app store" while windows 8 will run if from the App Store and the box off the self from the store.

My point was though I believe that as people buy more and more from the apps stores less software will be made for purchase in the store til one day OSes in the future will only run apps from the App Store.

six of one, half dozen of the other.

It's all marketing and packaging.

It's nothing great or new.

It's simply brain-splitting to read someone say something as inane as "apps are better than software". It's like saying "Eggs are better than eggs."

I don't care about what service sells what. Are they pushing for more licensed and controlled software? Yes. That's what we're really talking about with "apps" on an "app store". The rest is jargon and window dressing, "bruh"

[alcheng]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

And I will categorize like this.

It doesn't matter, it's the same thing with different restrictions and firmware/hardware considerations.

Apps is short for applications, which mainly refers to user-controlled software. The three terms are interchangeable.

Marketing has told people that apps are different and special.

I use "apps" on phone's program and "software" on computer's program so I know we are talking about phones or computer....

After all, apps and software are all "program"...

[shadoquad]

All I can say is

[shadoquad]

Allow me to be clear.

"apps" are applications. These are user programs. These are all software.

"programs" are all software, they include apps as a subset. Other programs include drivers and scripts that your average joe doesn't ever interact with, as well as Operating Systems.

"software" refers to non-hardware. Hardware being the physical device, software is anything that tells hardware what to do.

"software" roughly equates to "programs". "apps" are a subset of "software" and "programs" All apps are by definition software. App stores sell software. Off-the-shelf software are also usually apps, because they are user-facing programs.

In other words, you guys remind me of the old lady from the Android commercials. "Is this the line for the apps?" Yes, mom.

[alcheng]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Allow me to be clear.

"apps" are applications. These are user programs. These are all software.

"programs" are all software, they include apps as a subset. Other programs include drivers and scripts that your average joe doesn't ever interact with, as well as Operating Systems.

"software" refers to non-hardware. Hardware being the physical device, software is anything that tells hardware what to do.

"software" roughly equates to "programs". "apps" are a subset of "software" and "programs" All apps are by definition software. App stores sell software. Off-the-shelf software are also usually apps, because they are user-facing programs.

In other words, you guys remind me of the old lady from the Android commercials. "Is this the line for the apps?" Yes, mom.

Gosh... I know the difference....

I said I just say I use "apps" for phone-software and "programs" for computer software thus it's easier to know we are talking about phone or computer..!!

Just like snow-tires and summer-tires, they are tires... just for different types of purpose....

[Isamu]

Originally Posted by alcheng

Gosh... I know the difference....

I said I just say I use "apps" for phone-software and "programs" for computer software thus it's easier to know we are talking about phone or computer..!!

Just like snow-tires and summer-tires, they are tires... just for different types of purpose....

[Lemers]

Originally Posted by alcheng

Gosh... I know the difference....

I said I just say I use "apps" for phone-software and "programs" for computer software thus it's easier to know we are talking about phone or computer..!!

Just like snow-tires and summer-tires, they are tires... just for different types of purpose....

:Iagree:

And the point I was making before we were so derailed was that in the future when you buy a device (phone, tablet, computer, toaster) the only way you will get software is from its specific App Store not best buy, Office Depot, or even amazon.com.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by Lemers

:Iagree:

And the point I was making before we were so derailed was that in the future when you buy a device (phone, tablet, computer, toaster) the only way you will get software is from its specific App Store not best buy, Office Depot, or even amazon.com.

I still won't cede to the retarded trend in terminology, but you can already largely get software without walking into a store. The direction of industry toward content control in self-governed stores is a bad one for consumers. I fear you may be right about it.

Windows 8 is a disaster of an OS from an interface point of view, imo

Thankfully there are older windows distros and many flavors of linux, so I don't need that crap.

[Isamu]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

I still won't cede to the retarded trend in terminology, but you can already largely get software without walking into a store. The direction of industry toward content control in self-governed stores is a bad one for consumers. I fear you may be right about it.

Windows 8 is a disaster of an OS from an interface point of view, imo

Thankfully there are older windows distros and many flavors of linux, so I don't need that crap.

[Isamu]

dafuq did I just read?

[erkthejerk73]

AM bros AM been a long time since i have been here!

[ZMan8]

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[erkthejerk73]

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