I catch him on the next curve. They slow down away too much.

Yeah assuming turn 1 doesnt completely jack you up, I usually do too. Although it depends on the race.

Not quite. Right? You always get three race choices and at least one is for a car you own, but they can be races offered for a car you don't own. For example, I've been offered A races, but I own no A cars yet -- I could upgrade, but who upgrades from C to A.

The funny thing is the "customized to a car you own" function isn't always predictable. I was offered a race for a car I owned, but wasn't currently driving. So I go change into that car and that same race is not offered. :icon17:

Well I'm guessing I not going to need to worry too much about what classes I own. Some of my FMIII cars imported over, so I think I have most classes covered.

Hopefully that part gets better as the races get longer. With a short 2 lap races you basically have to be near the front of the pack after the first big corner to have a chance at catching that car up front.

My only real gripe is that if you take a corner like you should -- slow in, fast out -- you get rammed in the back by the AI. It's like they want every lap to be a late-braking-drift-around-the-corner-seat-of-the-pants sorta thing.

The AI in F3 were slow, but at least they were out of the way by midway through the first lap and you could concentrate on driving clean fast laps.

But you have a car capable of being upgraded, so yes, you do have something that fits the bill. IE, if you have no Mazda Roadster it wont offer the Mazda Roadster race....but if you have a C-spec MX-5 and its an A-spec race, its going to offer it. Not many Mazda roadsters out there in A-spec in stock form, so you're stuck upgrading lol.

What I DONT like is that when you go to upgrade by joining the race, your ONLY option is to automatically upgrade. And what dont they put in? A fvcking differential. I did that w/ my Fiesta and it was fast....or COULD have been if it was able to put the power down. I had to leave the race and put in a race differential, and man, it suddenly became a fast-as-fook car.

BTW, when a race is offered for a car you currently arent driving, just try to go into the race anyway. It'll pop up that you're driving the wrong car, and then give you the option to switch - thats the ONLY way to get the event that was offered. If you switch BEFORE attempting to join, yes, the events will change out.

Agreed, for the most part, if I make sure to run a clean race, I can catch up pretty quick.

But still its far easier to just rewind until you get turn 1 nailed pretty good and just go straight to 3rd or 2nd right off the bat, than struggling to catch up all race.

Well Ive found the AI does an interesting mix of VERY early braking, and ridiculously late braking lol. I saw some AI that was in 1st go WAY off track on the opening lap because of late braking...

Yea, but as you mentioned, the "in-race" upgrade menu is limited and I typically always upgrade to the full suspension and the diff. It's not a big deal especially since I'll race that race eventually via the event list, but it would be simple to program in a little memory and reflection:

Game Engine:

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Yeah the method they use that automatically switches events whenever you change cars bugs the **** out of me lol. Seems silly.

UPS tracking says my cockpit is out for delivery:

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Lemers, accept my fwen wekwest so I can invite you to the car club.

I'm loving the game so far, but I agree with the problem of starting you near the end of the grid always.

One of the Gran Turismo games gave you the option to qualify for the race. And while that would take some of the challenge out, it also meant you weren't stuck behind god awful slow cars going into turn 1.

I'm loving the 370z in this game. I drive it as much as I can. I currently have an A-spec 370 and an S-spec 370, and they're both tremendous fun.

Ive yet to get a 370, but I made sure to crash the **** out of the one Cwis made with the club haha.

I didnt see what mods were done to it...but I didnt like it much. Too much HP and not enough handling it seemed to me...

lol then you're not going to like the green nismo I put up there. I suped it up by adding tons of power, but then had to detune it, so I shrunk the wheel width.

It fishtails on the straights if you're not careful :roflpuke2:




Oh, and I believe Cwiz swapped it to an AWD drivetrain and may have thrown a GTR engine in it. AWD might explain the poor handling.

Mmmmm, maybe. Then again, a lot of the tracks in Forza Im completely unfamiliar with, so I need to learn them yet. Tracks like Road America and **** I know but GT5 and Forza's track offerings differ pretty greatly.

For those in the club that like handling over power. Try the 240z and the 300zx I uploaded to the shared garage. They are D and C class respectively.

Bought my copy yesterday but the "wife" won't let me play it.....being married is already having its pitfalls. :facepalm:

I'll be on tonight for sure. Pending my XBox doesn't take 4 hrs to update since it has not been online in quite a while.

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You can join our car club if you like, D. I'll send you an invite tonight or tomorrow. :tup:

The black cherry 370 I uploaded has great handling, too. I tuned that one from stock. It doesn't have all the engine work done on it. It's all about lightweight, better handling, better braking, and faster shifts.

^^

Cool. I'll check it out.

In Forza 3 I almost always upgraded for handling with typically very light engine mods. It seemed to me the optimal upgrade was from the bottom middle of a class (in PI) to the max PI for that class. If you start with a car too close to the max PI for the class, you didn't have enough room for all the adjustable handling mods. On the other hand, if you started too low -- like a car in the middle of the next lower class, it never seemed quite as competitive.

I know the PI assignments have changed somewhat in F4 so maybe the "sweet spot" is somewhere else this time around

I came to a similar conclusion about Forza 3. Getting a middle of the pack vehicle really let you tweak the car as needed. I always had best results going with suspension, tire compound, brakes, and either some weight reduction or light power modifications.

I have had to change my approach somewhat in FM4 because changing tire compound really seems to bumps up the PI level. Well, at least on the 240sx and some of the other low end cars I have been using. I haven't tried one of my higher end cars yet so tire compound may translate to less of a PI change if the game assumes that the starting tires on each car has a different level of grip. :ugh2:

Anyone know if we can import our designs from FM3? If we can, how? I want my 370z design back, but would prefer not to recreate it. :tup:

add me fool! G/T is the same as my screen name :) oh and get that z nats article up pronto! :tup:

Me gots a copy, already driver level 29, lol. Loving every minute of it.

It is an excellent game. I am really liking the new tire physics.

And the drag radials at long last! Now they just need to make the drag racing fun..

Just like real life...

:-p

This is the second time Forza featured the 370 and both times it was a sport package missing the rear spolier lol. You would think someone would have noticed by now.



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They don't have black cherry, either, but it could be worse. There's no 2011 Mustang at all.

O thought that no 11 mustang was messed up. It was the most talked about new car of the year. But I believe that did that to force us to buy a car pack.

I think you're absolutely right.

Why would you want to drive a boat? It's a car-racing game:p

I think the Stang comes in the Limited Edition trailer park box set.

I'm playing right meow

I'm gonna have a bite to eat, then getting on myself.

Just got home, I'm down to join!

GT: Ole Brownie

if anyone wants to join the official NAGTROC car club its

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Just got my seat. New wheel soon

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So where on ForzaMotorsport.net do you find the pictures you took that are uploaded?

you getting the fanatec? you wont regret it... i love the damn thing... that load cell braking takes getting used to but once you tweak it.. you can set it up to have full braking power with about 2 inches of travel ..hardly no effort...

log in with your xbox live username and there will be a tab called my forza.... you can get them there

Im in there now....where SHOULD they be? At the bottom under "Gallery -- Recent Photos"?