I own the G36 and love it. 6+1 of .45 JHP is good enough to get you out of a bad situation.

voted for Glock; have used one of my friends' Glock .40 @ indoor & outdoor shooting ranges. Glocks are in the $600 range around here in LV, so that's pretty much at the top of the price range you are looking at. As long as you are comfortable with the whole no safeties thing, the Glock seems known for reliablility.

ty

Glocks have a safety. It may be in the trigger, but it's there. As far as an external thumb safety, no they don't. But, neither does my XD. In the XD there is a grip safety and a trigger safety. The XD-M introduced a thumb safety. However, safeties hate me because I am a lefty. For that matter, holsters hate me for being a lefty :shakes head:

I will tell you that Chrissy shot the XD-40 before I bought her a gun and she liked my XD-45 better.

I have several of these models and I love the USP the most.

I don't know much about handguns, but my friend recommends a .45 cal Springfield 1911 with a steel frame.

YouTube - Clip - Black Hawk Down - This is my safety

Calif. senator calls for stronger gun controls

U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer called Tuesday for the nation to adopt more stringent regulations governing who can obtain permits for concealed weapons.

The move by the California Democrat was prompted by Saturday's shooting in Arizona that left six people dead and 14 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, injured.

Boxer said states such as Arizona that don't screen people who want to carry concealed weapons aren't protecting their citizens. She wants to see an expansion of California's policy requiring law enforcement to approve such permits.

"I think a law like that ought to be federalized," Boxer said at a news conference at the Riverside County district attorney's office.

One way to exert pressure for passage would be to withdraw criminal justice grants from states that don't draft such rules, she said.

Arizona law allows any U.S. citizen 21 or older to carry a concealed weapon.

Boxer acknowledged that getting Democrats and Republicans to agree on gun laws wasn't easy. Still, she hoped they could make headway on another proposal by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., to ban high-capacity ammunition clips like the one linked to the shooting.

"Maybe we can come together just on the sale of those clips," she said.

Lautenberg has said he would introduce a measure to re-establish a prohibition that lapsed in 2004 on clips that feed more than 10 rounds at a time.

The influential National Rifle Association generally opposes attempts to limit the manufacture and sale of guns.
Calif. senator calls for stronger gun controls

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Also:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-giffords.html

now if we could just get those damm criminals to start following the gun laws

LOL! :tup:

Maybe, we should make NOT having a gun illegal. That will trick the criminals into getting rid of their guns! :D

lol

Just placed an order for some extra magazines. Don't even own a 9mm but bought the 33rd 9mm magazine. LOL

http://www.glockworld.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=61581

gheez

guns are pretty much banned here except if you have a license. guns used for hunting and **** were easy to get actually, you could buy them and then have to go to the cops to register it. but after some nut killed a woman and child here you cant own guns without a license which is not easy to get.

I love guns though. I tend to drool over the new stuff.

My favorite gun will forever be the P90 such an awesome gun.

never fired a gun though.

p90 is sweet with how it works

good luck getting one hahaha

ref. to dad's post - time to grab me a whole bunch of clips.

you know, pretty soon, it's going to be a criminal offense in california to carry a piece of paper in your hand. who knows, with the right technique it could be a deadly weapon :rolleyes:

+ its belgian made. one of the few things im proud of regarding my country :roflpuke2:

High court denies man's gun arrest appeal

WASHINGTON – Missing a plane connection cost Utah gun owner Greg Revell 10 days in jail after he was stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City.

Nevertheless, the Supreme Court without comment refused on Tuesday to let Revell sue Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police for arresting him on illegal possession of a firearm in New Jersey and for not returning his gun and ammunition to him for more than three years.

Revell was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown, Pa., on March 31, 2005, with connections in Minneapolis and Newark, N.J. He had checked his Utah-licensed gun and ammunition with his luggage in Salt Lake City and asked airport officials to deliver them both with his luggage in Allentown.

But the flight from Minneapolis to Newark was late, so Revell missed his connection to Allentown. The airline wanted to bus its passengers to Allentown, but Revell realized that his luggage had not made it onto the bus and got off. After finding his luggage had been given a final destination of Newark by mistake, Revell missed the bus. He collected his luggage, including his gun and ammunition, and decided to wait in a nearby hotel with his stuff until the next flight in the morning.

When Revell tried to check in for the morning flight, he again informed the airline officials about his gun and ammunition to have them checked through to Allentown. He was reported to the TSA, and then arrested by Port Authority police for having a gun in New Jersey without a New Jersey license.

He spent 10 days in several different jails before posting bail. Police dropped the charges a few months later. But his gun and ammunition were not returned to him until 2008.

Revell said he should not have been arrested because federal law allows licensed gun owners to take their weapons through any state as long as they are unloaded and not readily accessible to people. He said it was not his fault the airline stranded him in New Jersey by making him miss his flight and routing his luggage to the wrong destination.

Prosecutors said it doesn't matter whose fault it was: Revell was arrested in New Jersey with a readily accessible gun in his possession without a New Jersey license.

Lower courts have sympathized with Revell but refused to let him sue the police.

"We recognize that he had been placed in a difficult situation through no fault of his own," wrote Judge Kent A. Jordan of the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia. However, the law "clearly requires the traveler to part ways with his weapon and ammunition during travel; it does not address this type of interrupted journey or what the traveler is to do in this situation."

The case is Revell v. Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, 10-236.

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High court denies man's gun arrest appeal - Yahoo! News

I read about that earlier, honestly I cant believe they are denying him the right to sue them. His rights were obviously violated so lets just ignore it and go on with our business...amirite? :usa:

You totally missed the point, of both of my posts!

:ugh2:

Wasnt commenting on your posts about it silly! Was just commenting on the situation. :icon17:

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson

House Bill Introduced To Ban High-Capacity Magazines The Shooter's Log

A bill written by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy was formally introduced on the House floor last week with the intention of banning ammunition magazines carrying more than 10 rounds. The introduction of the bill follows a mass killing in Tucson that left 19 individuals shot and 6 dead.

“I know what it’s like to have tragedy brought to your life in a split second by a madman with high-capacity ammunition magazines. I’m working to stop it from happening again,” claimed McCarthy. “We need comprehensive reform to reduce the number of people hurt or killed by gunfire in America, but one simple way we can do that is by keeping the worst tools of mass murder away from the general public. This nation has come together before to support this simple, commonsense measure, and it is the law in several states right now. It is a small sacrifice that law-abiding gun owners can make once again in order to increase everyone’s safety.”

Online firearm and ammunition retailer Cheaper Than Dirt! reported seeing a surge in orders for magazines holding more than 10 rounds in the past few days, with 30 round Glock magazines leading sales. Online sales of Glock pistol had also spiked and, at the time of publication of this article, the company was completely sold out of all 9mm Glock handgun models.

“It’s not unusual to see panic buying when legislation like this is introduced,” said Cheaper Than Dirt Chief Operating Officer Roberta Wilson. “Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and we’ll see this bill die in committee. Cheaper Than Dirt has always advocated responsible gun ownership and laws such as the one proposed by Congresswoman McCarthy only deprive law abiding gun owners. Criminals, by definition, ignore such laws and will remain unaffected.”

Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg disagreed, saying ““High-capacity gun magazines are tools for murder. This common-sense legislation would make it more difficult for someone to carry out a killing spree. Before 2004, these ammunition magazines were banned, and they must be banned again. I am proud to partner on this effort with Rep. McCarthy, who has worked tirelessly throughout her career to curb gun violence in our nation.”

XD40

'nuff said....

Any other info about the M&P?

I was looking at the Springfield XDM 40SW but have read better reviews about the SW M&P 40SW. I am interested in getting the new range kit for the 40SW.

Just want some opinions

they run for about $550 online.

It is extremely unfortunate that politicians decide that smaller magazines reduce mass murders when simply swapping out for a fresh magazine allows for another ten rounds. Just like Bush did with NCLB, and Obama with Healthcare, we're seeing another rush into legislation by riding the panic wave.

In MD, we "enjoy" some restrictive gun laws.

And yet Baltimore City and PG county consistently rank among the nation's highest gun violence rates.

hmmm gun control works? You be the judge.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...ny-cartoon.jpg

A little ignorant, but gun carry laws have no true merit because they rarely accomplish anything.

I recently purchased MasterPiece Arms 9mm, 35 round magazine :) Got it brand new from a local gun show for about $370. They retail about 450-500. https://www.masterpiecearms.com/index2.php?cat=23


http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...let350/gun.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...et350/gun2.jpg

https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prod...ing_medium.jpg

https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prod...(2)_medium.jpg

Not bad. So they sold you a gun at the show? That's quick.

looks like a uzi kinda

yea i love it.... I live in Georgia and the Gun Shows they have here aren't guns that are being shot and demonstrated but guns up for sale. Also they have knifes, pistols, glocks, shotguns and whatever else you can think of... even fully auto but you have to have special license or something like that. I personally thought you couldn't sell a fully whats so ever in the country but I was wrong.

But I got the gun for the looks lol... and the fact I needed one for home protection.

So, did you ever pick one out, or have you been thinking about it the last 5 months? :icon17:

maybe he had a little bit of an issue and had an accident :(

I was looking at getting the M&P 9mm range/carry kit, but due to always being unavailable I will get the XDM :)

If possible certified used Sigs can be had at a good price, and are super realiable...
I trust my life with a sig....

or an HK P30L lol

I'm thinking of the M&P 40. I just have to sell my glock 40 first. :icon17:

money issues :/