Have you ever cheated on a test?

Jeffblue · 11-10-2010, 11:29 PM

yes...no

so much of school is just regurgitating useless bits of information. put yourself in this situation: its your last semester of school, you have 3 tests to study for, 2 are in your major field of study, the other is some BS class. you only have time to study for 2. are you about to fail a class and not graduate because you fail some test in some BS class?

too many teachers emphasize remembering facts, as opposed to learning and understanding the concepts the convey. The teachers that really 'get it' allow you to bring a note sheet or an index card with a few things written on it. The point of school is to LEARN, not just to memeorize facts. I can honestly say i learned much more from the professors in college that allowed us to bring a sheet or note card with us, because i was able to spend less time memorizing things, and more time UNDERSTANDING them.

Jquad · 11-10-2010, 11:30 PM

Yes sir

dad · 11-11-2010, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750

Never cheated, ever! Once you cheated, that's it....a new definition of your character. You could never undo it.

Much like cheating on your wife...once you do it, you'll do it again.

"History repeats itself!!!!!"

The issue is about cheating on a written test! Cheating on a written test and your spouse don't even compare!

cab83_750 · 11-11-2010, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

The issue is about cheating on a written test! Cheating on a written test and your spouse don't even compare!

Concept is concept, and all is relative (ala beauty is to the eye of the beholder). If you can't compare, so be it.

So, since you know they don't even compare, I guess you have been doing both cheating on tests and your spouse to make such statement ?????

j/k picking on you man!!!!!

Push370zzz · 11-11-2010, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

yes...no

so much of school is just regurgitating useless bits of information. put yourself in this situation: its your last semester of school, you have 3 tests to study for, 2 are in your major field of study, the other is some BS class. you only have time to study for 2. are you about to fail a class and not graduate because you fail some test in some BS class?

too many teachers emphasize remembering facts, as opposed to learning and understanding the concepts the convey. The teachers that really 'get it' allow you to bring a note sheet or an index card with a few things written on it. The point of school is to LEARN, not just to memeorize facts. I can honestly say i learned much more from the professors in college that allowed us to bring a sheet or note card with us, because i was able to spend less time memorizing things, and more time UNDERSTANDING them.

Windex_ · 11-14-2010, 03:48 PM

Guilty...

ninous26 · 11-15-2010, 07:05 PM

Since this thread is full of clutter, I'll admit it.

Yes, all the time.. Started in highschool when it was annoying having to do all my work just to see at lunch kids giving their homework to other kids to write down the same answers but re worded in their own.

Why should I do my homework when I could do more fun things at home? All I have to do is copy off my friend the next day at the last minute.

When it came to tests that was EASY. Some teachers were so dumb I would literally get up and look directly over my buddy's sheet and copy his answers... Once school went on and turned into college it got more and more complex.

I'd do things like the above pic^.. Load notes on my ipod nano.. Even record my voice on my computer reading back notes, convert it to an mp3 and put it on an mp3 player or ipod.

I've also peeled off the wrapper from a gatorade bottle and took glue stick and glued a sheet of paper onto the wraper, then cut it so it matched and wrote in notes.. I'd sip the drink during the test till I can see what I wrote and I would just sit there and look through the bottle to see my answers.

Oh yeah, I cheated on my high school geometry final exam HARDCORE senior year.. I needed at least an 85 to pass the class and graduate.. This was impossible, geometry is the weakest subject for me. Its terribly hard.. I was put in a teacher conference room all by my self.. I was using a HUGE oval table so I could easily put something in my lap and nobody would see.. So I put a 6 page study guide in my lap.. The questions and answers were identical, just different numbers.. I sat there and completed what I knew and used the study guide for the rest.. Easily passed and was congratulated for my "hard" work.

LOL!

PapoZalsa · 11-15-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750

You can BS my BS! Try me!

let's get a pot going and just for fun, ask me the question on drugs, hypnotized, and hooked up to a lie-detector test.

Be warned though that the I am military-trained. Sshhhhhh..

I'm a RETIRED MILITARY!

cab83_750 · 11-15-2010, 09:47 PM

Make sure your kids, friends and employer don't see your post.

and then after reading this, we wonder why our test scores are so low compared to other countries? Then 10 years later, we wonder why employers would outsource our jobs to India or China? 20 years later we wonder why our economy is fukkked up. Cause-and-effect.

Sorry guys. I don't mean to lecture. I am just a redneck patriot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninous26

Since this thread is full of clutter, I'll admit it.

Yes, all the time.. Started in highschool when it was annoying having to do all my work just to see at lunch kids giving their homework to other kids to write down the same answers but re worded in their own.

Why should I do my homework when I could do more fun things at home? All I have to do is copy off my friend the next day at the last minute.

When it came to tests that was EASY. Some teachers were so dumb I would literally get up and look directly over my buddy's sheet and copy his answers... Once school went on and turned into college it got more and more complex.

I'd do things like the above pic^.. Load notes on my ipod nano.. Even record my voice on my computer reading back notes, convert it to an mp3 and put it on an mp3 player or ipod.

I've also peeled off the wrapper from a gatorade bottle and took glue stick and glued a sheet of paper onto the wraper, then cut it so it matched and wrote in notes.. I'd sip the drink during the test till I can see what I wrote and I would just sit there and look through the bottle to see my answers.

Oh yeah, I cheated on my high school geometry final exam HARDCORE senior year.. I needed at least an 85 to pass the class and graduate.. This was impossible, geometry is the weakest subject for me. Its terribly hard.. I was put in a teacher conference room all by my self.. I was using a HUGE oval table so I could easily put something in my lap and nobody would see.. So I put a 6 page study guide in my lap.. The questions and answers were identical, just different numbers.. I sat there and completed what I knew and used the study guide for the rest.. Easily passed and was congratulated for my "hard" work.

LOL!

Jeffblue · 11-15-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninous26

I've also peeled off the wrapper from a gatorade bottle and took glue stick and glued a sheet of paper onto the wraper, then cut it so it matched and wrote in notes.. I'd sip the drink during the test till I can see what I wrote and I would just sit there and look through the bottle to see my answers.

damn that is clever!

ninous26 · 11-15-2010, 10:04 PM

I'm not dumb.. I'm not lazy.. I just don't care.

Don't worry, I won't be going to any colleges here ( I went to college in Canada).. I won't take any important "tests" here and lower your precious American test scores.. I'll just keep doing what I do and make lots of money, help build the economoy, and make people happy

You want to know the magic reason why test scores are low compared to other countries????

You ready?? IMMIGRANTS and REFUGEES! Yup.

We've got tons of illeal and legal immigrants in this country. From Mexico, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Iraq, Afghanistan + way more.

The U.S. in now in the process of bringing Iraqi refugees here by the thousands. How do I know? Well I've see a lot of them here and I've employed one.. My friends all come from the balkans, they were all refugees here 10 years ago and they came by the thousands. Mexicans come here legally and illegally BY THE THOUSANDS.

Now you may be asking, what do these people have in common?!?!?!?!? THEY ARE NOOBS TO AMERICA. They speak no word of English, they are new to American ways including education.. So what does that lead to? Hmmm.. Thousands of new students to this country who have no idea what they are doing.. Taking tests to the best of their ability and scoring low.

Thats also the main reason why Arizona is one of the "dumbest" states when it comes to schools and test scores.. AZ was and probably still is the fastest growing place in America and possibly the planet.. The US government dumps all these refugees here.. Mexico is right on the border and most of them cross over this border in AZ..

I'm sure you got the point.. I can keep going on and on about this subject.

PS: American jobs are sent to India and other various countries because its way cheaper...

All about the green $$$$

ninous26 · 11-15-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

damn that is clever!

Yes. What would have worked better was to print your notes on a computer in small font. Just in case a teacher/prof walks by and looks at the bottle they will think its fine print by the manufacturer. I got lucky there were no checks.

Windex_ · 11-15-2010, 10:07 PM

That was actually the first time Ive cheated since I was about 13 and I didnt even end up using that. All that I had there were the names of certain musicians. The midterm required us to answer 100 questions and listen to 50 songs and write the following: name of artist, song name, record label, song writer, and year it was written. I got a 98% on the listening and 100% on my questions. I just ended up feeling stupid for not being confident in myself.

shabarivas · 11-15-2010, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo!

do urinalysises count?

lmao!

Zerafian · 11-16-2010, 10:08 AM

Use to work at my high school...went into my chem teachers class after hours and changed all my answers to the right ones besides a few to get like a 93%...as well as changed a few answers on a few peoples test I didnt like to fail the test.

who the hell is suppost to know all the elements on the periodic chart.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	yes...no so much of school is just regurgitating useless bits of information. put yourself in this situation: its your last semester of school, you have 3 tests to study for, 2 are in your major field of study, the other is some BS class. you only have time to study for 2. are you about to fail a class and not graduate because you fail some test in some BS class? too many teachers emphasize remembering facts, as opposed to learning and understanding the concepts the convey. The teachers that really 'get it' allow you to bring a note sheet or an index card with a few things written on it. The point of school is to LEARN, not just to memeorize facts. I can honestly say i learned much more from the professors in college that allowed us to bring a sheet or note card with us, because i was able to spend less time memorizing things, and more time UNDERSTANDING them. Last edited by Jeffblue; 11-10-2010 at 11:32 PM.

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ninous26 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 112 Drives: 03 G35 black 5AT Rep Power: 15	I'm not dumb.. I'm not lazy.. I just don't care. Don't worry, I won't be going to any colleges here ( I went to college in Canada).. I won't take any important "tests" here and lower your precious American test scores.. I'll just keep doing what I do and make lots of money, help build the economoy, and make people happy You want to know the magic reason why test scores are low compared to other countries???? You ready?? IMMIGRANTS and REFUGEES! Yup. We've got tons of illeal and legal immigrants in this country. From Mexico, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Iraq, Afghanistan + way more. The U.S. in now in the process of bringing Iraqi refugees here by the thousands. How do I know? Well I've see a lot of them here and I've employed one.. My friends all come from the balkans, they were all refugees here 10 years ago and they came by the thousands. Mexicans come here legally and illegally BY THE THOUSANDS. Now you may be asking, what do these people have in common?!?!?!?!? THEY ARE NOOBS TO AMERICA. They speak no word of English, they are new to American ways including education.. So what does that lead to? Hmmm.. Thousands of new students to this country who have no idea what they are doing.. Taking tests to the best of their ability and scoring low. Thats also the main reason why Arizona is one of the "dumbest" states when it comes to schools and test scores.. AZ was and probably still is the fastest growing place in America and possibly the planet.. The US government dumps all these refugees here.. Mexico is right on the border and most of them cross over this border in AZ.. I'm sure you got the point.. I can keep going on and on about this subject. PS: American jobs are sent to India and other various countries because its way cheaper... All about the green $$$$ Last edited by ninous26; 11-15-2010 at 10:06 PM.

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ninous26 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 112 Drives: 03 G35 black 5AT Rep Power: 15	Since this thread is full of clutter, I'll admit it. Yes, all the time.. Started in highschool when it was annoying having to do all my work just to see at lunch kids giving their homework to other kids to write down the same answers but re worded in their own. Why should I do my homework when I could do more fun things at home? All I have to do is copy off my friend the next day at the last minute. When it came to tests that was EASY. Some teachers were so dumb I would literally get up and look directly over my buddy's sheet and copy his answers... Once school went on and turned into college it got more and more complex. I'd do things like the above pic^.. Load notes on my ipod nano.. Even record my voice on my computer reading back notes, convert it to an mp3 and put it on an mp3 player or ipod. I've also peeled off the wrapper from a gatorade bottle and took glue stick and glued a sheet of paper onto the wraper, then cut it so it matched and wrote in notes.. I'd sip the drink during the test till I can see what I wrote and I would just sit there and look through the bottle to see my answers. Oh yeah, I cheated on my high school geometry final exam HARDCORE senior year.. I needed at least an 85 to pass the class and graduate.. This was impossible, geometry is the weakest subject for me. Its terribly hard.. I was put in a teacher conference room all by my self.. I was using a HUGE oval table so I could easily put something in my lap and nobody would see.. So I put a 6 page study guide in my lap.. The questions and answers were identical, just different numbers.. I sat there and completed what I knew and used the study guide for the rest.. Easily passed and was congratulated for my "hard" work. LOL!

11-15-2010, 10:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
Windex_ Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SFV 818 LA Posts: 831 Drives: LOW N SLOW! Rep Power: 15	That was actually the first time Ive cheated since I was about 13 and I didnt even end up using that. All that I had there were the names of certain musicians. The midterm required us to answer 100 questions and listen to 50 songs and write the following: name of artist, song name, record label, song writer, and year it was written. I got a 98% on the listening and 100% on my questions. I just ended up feeling stupid for not being confident in myself.