How A Pilot Refused A Full Body Scan And Now May Lose His Job
 

How A Pilot Refused A Full Body Scan And Now May Lose His Job

I hate those full body scans. I'd love a listing of all the terrorists we've caught because of them.

I wouldn't especially like being patted down either for no reason.

People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.

I love some of the comments from the TSA agents where they say, who cares about your rights. Really? Maybe I do.

Yup. TSA continues to be invasive security theater.

I'd talk about the TSA, but every time I do, I go on a half hour+ rant.

The creation of the TSA was nothing more than a sweater swap. They took the morons working for the private security companies and gave them government jobs. It was akin to giving Barney Fife and extra bullet to put in his pocket. I commuted to Denver for several years, in full uniform, and I can't tell you the number of times I've had to deal with these idiots. I even had one TSA agent touch the metal detector as I walked through just to set it off and cause me to have to go through a "secondary screening". I saw the agent touch the detector as plain as day and confronted him. I told him I wanted to talk to his supervisor. The supervisor sided with the agent, of course. I fly corporate now and would quit flying altogether if I had to deal with the TSA on a regular basis.

TSA agents. 10/hr rent-a-cops. Offense meant.

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More pilots are stepping forward now demanding they not be required to go through full body scans.

I've got a job that is all about protecting people from radiation exposure and I have to say that running through these scans as often as a pilot would is a real health risk.

You're wrong, they make much more than 10hr, and they are not rent-a-cops.

I was reading the job description today, you don't even have to have a high school diploma/GED. You just have to of worked as a security guard for a year.

Sounds like a rent-a-cop to me.

Does the GED teach a person how to patronize me while I take off my shoes?

No, that's inbred hatred of people who are better off than them.

If this dumbass is worried about x-ray exposure he NEEDS TO STOP FLYING. I would assume that he knows that one cross country flight nets him about 4mrem of cosmic radiation or a half a chest x-ray. That's one flight in one day.

^ :facepalm:

You and I and anyone else has the RIGHT to refuse a full-body scan. We need to all refuse this ****. This is Amurrica dad-gummit.

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Good job TSA.

I hate to fly and all this bullshit just makes me want just ride the train if possible. :mad:

There have been a lot more stories lately on these new policy changes with the TSA along with some people stepping forward in the past year who have been 'violated.'
One lady in Corpus flying out had her blouse pulled down, it was a bit of a accident, but she had to go to a private room as she was so embarrassed. Then when she came back to finish another TSA agent was laughing about it and said he wishes he was there to see it but will just go watch it on the video monitors later. :wtf:

Yesterday they said in the News that Pilots don't have to go thru all that stuff anymore.

I never seen a Pilot or Flight Attendant got to thru the body scam or pat-down. All they do is Show there ID Card and on there way they go, separate from the passengers. :dunno:

The recent changes made pilots go through all security check points, glad to see they removed that.

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I could care less about all that TSA crap. I never fly :D

Here's what I don't understand. When an airplane is blown up Americans piss and moan about the "gubbmit" not doing enough to protect them. Then when the "gubbmit" actually starts really scanning people and checking them over, Americans piss and moan about that too! WTF?

Take your damn pick people do you want a smooth painless trip or do you want people screened? You do understand that if it's smooth and simple for you, it's also smooth and simple for suicide bombers too.

we need to be more like the Israelis and look for terrorists, not weapons.

Pilots have always gone through the screenings, except for pilot programs at BWI, PIT and somewhere else, now they are expanding that program. If you have seen pilots bypass security elsewhere, its because they are Federal Flight Deck Officers and are carrying. They don't need to go through for obvious reasons.

Do you want to get there safe, or not at all? Religious fanatic terrorists want you dead. They have no desire to rape your wife or daughter, they "dress" like the American whore, they want them dead also!

The TSA has never found any weapons intended to be used on an airplane. They are a bunch of uneducated neanderthals. And, while I don't have kids, If I did, I wouldn't want one of those losers feeling her up and traumatizing her for life.

There's no doubt some of them are morons, just like their are moron cops, pilots and so on. If TSA only stopped one bomber out of 300 million people screened would you say that it was worth it? :confused:

No, I wouldn't. There is a reason why they call it terrorism. When we let TSA get away with this crap, the terrorists win. There are much more effective methods than what they are doing. This is all window dressing. We need to actively profile passengers, like the Israelis do.

Smoke and mirrors.

More effective methods than what they are doing.- Why don't you tell us of these methods?

profiling. Grandma and your 13 year old aren't terrorists, neither are 99.99% of the people traveling and everyone knows it. The Israelis question everyone, and it doesn't matter what they ask, its the reaction they look for.


Pushing Tin asked about screening 300 million to find one terrorist.
My airline carries 170 million passengers per year and we are about 1/6th of the traffic. so that would mean about 1 billion plus per year in the USA. We have been at this since 9/11 for 9+ years, so that is close to 10 billion passengers and we haven't found one terrorist.

Your calling it a failure. Suppression is working. Until Mahmud finds a back door, he knows the front door is rather useless to enter! On the same token, "Don't be mislead by the calm"!

Actually... there is a good reason to screen even old white people...

Anyone see the report about that young (22ish year old) Asian guy who dressed in and Old white guy mask and used an ID showing a 55year old DOB. He was only caught after removing the mask in the Airplane Lav. YES HE MADE IT ONTO THE AIRCRAFT.

On the other hand, all of this extra security has basically caused a cluster of people at the Security line. Well, the true task of a terrorist isn't to get onto an airplane, it's to kill people. So now U have a large cluster of people, sometimes larger than most aircraft can handle, just sitting there. What is to stop a suicide bomber to just get into the middle of this line and explode? How easy could it be for a few of these guys to organize a simultaneous hit at LAX, NY, Boston, etc. They would kill hundreds, and it would put a huge halt on air travel, temporarily. Just as a Security measure is put into place, it just opens a new opportunity. Besides...all this high security, they still leave gigantic holes left for a terrorist to take advantage of.

Take San Diego Airport for example.... I am there very often and I never see any security roaming the perimeter. All it takes is for a terrorist group to get someone to work on the inside, say.. a catering company. They roam the grounds of the airport all day. Someone could literally throw something over the fence and this guy comes and gets it. He can get right on to an airplane with that material.

These points are actual concerns by real pilots.

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