Why Would A Four Runner Want to Race Me?

WarmAndSCSI

Not sure where you heard or read that, but it takes a LOT more than just a programmer and exhaust to get a truck into the 13 second bracket. They start out running anywhere from low 18's to high 16's. Many more supporting mods are necessary to get a truck to run fast. $20k+ on top of an already $40-50k truck to reach the 12-11 second range reliably.

My point wasn't that diesel trucks are slow - if you lived here after having lived in Texas, Arkansas, or any other actual rural, farm-based area, you'd know how retarded diesel guys here are. Who lifts a diesel truck anyway? I think it's a lot more impressive to be able to tow ungodly heavy trailers than to run the quarter mile in 13.8 seconds, with a 14 inch lift and mud tires on. It's just dumb, kind of like the dipshits from Arkansas that try to race you in their tricked out Chevy 1500 or whatever.

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fullmonty

More like $1200. Look it up, there are plenty of 6.0 Powerstroke diesels running in the 13s with ONLY an exhaust and tune. If you want to factor in the cost of making the truck reliable with that power. Boost the cost up another $1200 for head studs, that the cost of the studs + labor. When you're all said and done, $2400 you can have a 6.0 Powerstroke running the same time as a Z. Personally I think thats pretty impressive for a 7,000Lbs. truck

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WarmAndSCSI

You can also drop an LS1 in a Geo Metro for about that much money and have it run 12's. Does that mean it makes any sense?

A fast diesel truck is an oxymoron. They should be used for towing because that is what they are designed to do, and that's all they can do well. Adding more torque/power to be able to tow more is awesome. Doing the same to run faster in the quarter mile is moronic. Have you ever seen a diesel truck lose control at the strip? It's not pretty. And it happens a lot more often than you'd care to think. Why? Because they're not designed to go fast. End of story.

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XwChriswX

Here its pretty much ANY truck you see is lifted with the big mud tires, yet you never see them dirty...

And I don't just mean 1 or two, I mean every other truck you see is just like that. And they never do with them what you would think... they don't go get them dirty or haul anything.. It's retarded. (Not lifting trucks, lifting trucks putting them on mud tires, then rollin on the highway to pick up groceries) I mean really...?

I like a smartly done lifted truck as much as the next guy, but here they just take it out of control.

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WarmAndSCSI

YES!

Thank God, somebody who actually knows what I'm talking about.

I love diesel trucks. I think they're cool. I think off-road vehicles are the **** as well. I own neither, but I give props where props are due.

I was simply complaining about the diesel idiots here who think having one of SEVERAL THOUSAND "14 second" lifted diesel trucks up here makes them special at all. It's a plague in Utah. And it's dangerous because such a vehicle is not safe in ANY aspect. You compromise the handling characteristics of an already poor handling vehicle, and then you add 3x more power to it without upgrading the brakes or anything. How is that safe for anybody!?

It's not, it's retarded. It's retarded to have to have a special hitch that lowers the hitch ball just to be able to tow your 2000 lb trailer around with a truck that's designed to tow 4x that. I see it here ALL THE TIME and it's just sickening.

I'm done with this discussion - unless you live here or somewhere else where this lifted diesel truck craze is running rampant, you honestly don't know how annoying these guys are. They're grade A douchebags. I don't have anything against the trucks, it's more that there are literally THOUSANDS of them here; and they all drive like dipshits.

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HKYStormFront

this^^^ why do all of WarmAndSCSI's post seem like he's fallen off the rocker? it goes back to the "it's your car, do what you want with it" thing.

besides, unless you are going 6 seconds or less in the quarter, straight lines are for p*ssy's.

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WarmAndSCSI

Then you're agreeing that it's dumb to put any money into a TOWING VEHICLE to make it run a mediocre 13-11 second quarter mile?

I'm confused as to what your point is. I despise drag racing anyway. Grew out of that years ago when I found how ridiculous the thrills to $$$ spent on broken parts ratio is.

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