LOST the Final season: discussion thread

[Jessica]

Originally Posted by MC

this is a little bit abstract and has some holes in it but still fun to think about.. and check back in a few weeks and see how wrong we were lol....


the two realities post jughead explosion could be like the Schrödinger's cat expeiriment. basically dumbed down it states if you put a cat in a box and expose it to a posion the cat is both alive and dead until you open the box and find out. so faradays plan " worked" and didnt work at the same time

"the consequences of a 'random' event can lead to both outcomes simultaneously - until, that is, the event is observed and the true outcome becomes reality"


The quantum-mechanical "Schrödinger's cat" paradox according to the many-worlds interpretation.

In this interpretation every event is a branch point; the cat is both alive and dead, irrespective of whether the box is opened, but the "alive" and "dead" cats are in different branches of the universe, both of which are equally real, but which cannot interact with each other.

This is what I've been thinking is going on. I cannot wait until it's over so we can go back and start all over to see all the things we didn't "see" before. I don't want it to ever end, but I need answers!

[STItoEVOX]

wow you guys are some crazy bastards but i love it. the Lost crew better handle the ending of this show very carefully. it could turn into the greatest story ever or the biggest waste of 5 years of millions of peoples lives.

and i completely agree with MC's alternate reality post. some people on other sites inlcuding abc.com were saying, "oh they messed up cuz Desmond was never on the plane cuz he was pushing the button in the hatch" in the premiere. but they didnt realize that if the island as we knew it never existed because they "stopped" it, then there would be no reason for him to be in the hatch pressing the button.

still cant wait to see how they are all tied together and why.

ALSO, pretty creepy to have the chessboard promo with Radioheads "Everything in its right place" ...hmm ...

[STItoEVOX]

and oh yeah, almost forgot. probly the best part, i recognize where they shoot most of the scenes. i grew up at the foot of that mountain range thats always in the background, the airport scenes on the premiere are in Honolulu, the little village where the others lived is where we would go on our elementary school camping trip, the house where kate lived with claires kid is in Kahala a RICH *** neighborhood east of waikiki... i could go on and on. feels pretty cool to know the actual locations on the show but my wife gets annoyed with me.

god i hope they have jessica biel as a guest star this season so i can find her and get her pregnant.

[Reaper42]

Originally Posted by STItoEVOX

god i hope they have jessica biel as a guest star this season so i can find her and get her pregnant.

Haha, yea lemme know too! Man after LOST, theres no other place I want to go visit. After LOST ends, if I ever go on vacation there we def have to meet up so you can show me all these places!

[STItoEVOX]

hah, no prob man. you'll be surprised how they made some of the areas look like they were actually on location in Russia, Africa, Thailand, London... crazy hollywood people.

[MC]

the weekly podcasts are back... not too much info but i always listen to them


The Official LOST Podcast Returns! Damon and Carlton Explain it all! (Not!) DocArzt’s LOST Blog

[Reaper42]

Alright so after watching the premiere again, and the little charlie bit. It seems like by the way he says what he says, way he words things. I think this charlie we are seeing is actually the same charlie from the other reality.

Desmond tried time and time again to save charlie but finally charlie just wanted to die and prevented desmond from saving him at the looking glass.

After Jack revives him its kind of like charlie waking up from that death and being like, "wtf dude now I have to die again soon in some other painful and miserable way" lol.

Also one other thing with the island being underwater and all the mythic things about it. COULD THE ISLAND BE ATLANTIS???

[travisjb]

re Schrödinger's cat, it seems that J J Abrams is obsessed with the concept... shows up in Lost, Fringe, and even the new Star Trek... to me, it is a more rationale construct for how time works than the old sci-fi standby of linear time and time travel causing disruptions in space-time continua... anyways +1 for you guys being over the top analytical about the show - but I love it!

[MC]

my review and ramblings for this week


there seems to be alot of mixed feelings about "what kate does" at first i was a little dissapointed but when i watched it again i started to come around to it. its just my expectation were so high and there is so much mythology to answer and then they throw us a kate episode. they are usually the weakest character centric story lines... but it was important if you step back and think about it.... she potentially did in the other timeline what she set out to do on the island.. . it seems claire might now keep aaron in the new timeline.....

the other important part was kate had the weird deja vu when she saw jack just like he had on the plane ( why she didnt have it when she bumped into him and stole his pen or to sawyer in the elevator i dunno) she also had it when claire called the baby aaron... so it seems they have some memory or conciousness from the original timeline....

also seeing ethan was a nice touch and the whole medicine/needle thing was good irony... when aaron stopped moving..did anyone realize thats what he did on the island aswell? also her ultrasound said 10/22/2004 where in the other timeline it was 9/22/2004.. and the last small thing that i actually had to read about and didnt notice for myself was the killer whale stuffed animal was the same one aaron was holding when he heard kate and jack argue over him and (uncle) jack told kate he isnt even related to you

the high point for me is we got some light shed on what "the sickness" is. its been talked about since season1 and it seems its a way for the MIB to possibly control dead bodies ( not impersonate them like he is doing with locke) so this might explain christian ( not sure on this one yet) the whole french team, yemi and now claire... i guess sayid did actually die and since they didnt know jacob was dead the darkness infected him because they didnt bury him immediately? so it looks like the bodies are reanimated with their own personality that is slowly taken over by the darkness..... if christian is like this and not just MIB faking him... it seems thats why he told locke "to say hello to my son" but on the other hand how could he appear to michael on the freighter if he was actually just a reanimated infected dead body?

which now i think might prove claire died in the RPG blast to the barracks... remember miles looked at her funny in season 4 just like he looked at sayid. and when she left her bady to follow christian i guess she was completley infected and under somones control?

so yeah i mean im not complaining but atleast we got a kate episode out of the way... season 6 copies season 1 in the order of character centric episodes...to that means next week is a locke episode which could be one of the best of the season..

[shabarivas]

Simple - whats happening on the island will end up transforming into what happens on the plane... instead of both being "alternate" realities - they are simply showing us a flash forward (the plane etc) which will come about after they *somehow* leave the island...

[travisjb]

I find this character / actor to be a detractor from the show... thoughts?

[MC]

Originally Posted by shabarivas

Simple - whats happening on the island will end up transforming into what happens on the plane... instead of both being "alternate" realities - they are simply showing us a flash forward (the plane etc) which will come about after they *somehow* leave the island...

well the events on the island are 2007 the flash sideways are october 2004

this is what i think it is.... i will use sawyer as an example in 1977 he told jack his parents died a year ago and he could have gone and stopped it but whats done is done..... ok so that means at that exact same time back in the US there is like a 8 year old ( or whatever age is was) sawyer that exists..... still follow me? ok that sawyer in 27 years will board oceanic 815.... this is the same for every character... i think the flashsideways are of the versions of them who grow up slightly different and in 2004 dont crash on the island...

that would retain what happened happened for the one timeline and leave a new timeline at the same time

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oh and here is a wild theory of mine... that has some holes in it because .. hurely and sayid were touched post flight 815... but ...whos to say jacob wasnt touching the other losties in the other timeline where the plane didnt crash... that could be how they have some deja vu of the original time... my theory might be disproven if it turns out that lockes dad didnt push him out the window and sun and jin arnt married

[MC]

Originally Posted by travisjb

I find this character / actor to be a detractor from the show... thoughts?

dont mind kenny powers brother lol , he is just a mouth piece for dogan and i think it adds to dogan being mysterious... but i was annoyed by the guy who played aldo last night glad he took 2 in the chest from evil/zombie/jungle claire



did anyone last night think that the couple claire was supposed to give the baby too was going to be a huge WTF? like it was always a mystery who that was gonna be for a short time in the original timeline the "nice couple" was actually jack and kate .....

i had all types of **** running though my head... i was like what if it was ben and annie and it was the symmetry that he took Rousseau maybe in one time line and claires in the other...

[Reaper42]

^haha when the lady first opened the door I thought it was going to be claires mother.

I too thought this episode was kinda week, specially with only 15 episodes left EVER. You would think every single episode is going to be mind blowing.

Guess we will have to wait till next week.

P.S. I feel bad for Sawyer

[MC]

oh and speaking of claire has anyone else seen this deleted scene from season 4? to me it makes me think she did die and was reanimated ("claimed") with out her knowledge like sayid