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Originally Posted by BettyZ Ah, if only it were roads. A lot of that is going to expanding 'home healthcare workers' aka family members of the elderly. And guess what!

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Old 05-03-2021, 05:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ah, if only it were roads. A lot of that is going to expanding 'home healthcare workers' aka family members of the elderly. And guess what! In many states that's a unionized job.

So the unions negotiate with the lawmakers who are funding home health care with medicare. I see no issues with the total lack of checks and balances there.
I don’t disagree with you as far as the unions fleecing Medicare unfairly on this issue.

BUT, there is an elderly/disabled home care crisis already starting and as the boomers get older, every year it’s getting worse.

Nursing homes are a institutionalized legal torture chamber, I and most of y’all probably agree that I’d rather die than end up in one.

The dignified answer that maintains a person’s maximum freedom and mobility in old age is home healthcare workers so you can live out your days in peace and dignity in your own house.

We desperately need investment in this country in this aspect of health care. I’m not saying this proposal by Biden is the perfect or even right answe but something needs to start happening on this issue.

Plus, it will create a lot of decent blue collar jobs.

Bottom line, we are ALL going to need this help at some point in the future, this is future proofing our own quality of life at the point in our lives where we will be the most vulnerable.
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I don’t disagree with you as far as the unions fleecing Medicare unfairly on this issue.

BUT, there is an elderly/disabled home care crisis already starting and as the boomers get older, every year it’s getting worse.

Nursing homes are a institutionalized legal torture chamber, I and most of y’all probably agree that I’d rather die than end up in one.

The dignified answer that maintains a person’s maximum freedom and mobility in old age is home healthcare workers so you can live out your days in peace and dignity in your own house.

We desperately need investment in this country in this aspect of health care. I’m not saying this proposal by Biden is the perfect or even right answe but something needs to start happening on this issue.

Plus, it will create a lot of decent blue collar jobs.

Bottom line, we are ALL going to need this help at some point in the future, this is future proofing our own quality of life at the point in our lives where we will be the most vulnerable.
I'm all for people caring for other people's old people. But if the problem they're trying to fix is people dropping out of the workforce to care for ailing relatives, paying them tax dollars for them to personally care for those relatives doesn't really count as keeping them in the workforce.

Plus the propensity for large scale fraud is just insane. When I was at the AGs office we busted a whole apt building (they had two residents who worked in the govt home healthcare aide office and were in on it) for getting paid for 'caring' for dead people.
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I'm all for people caring for other people's old people. But if the problem they're trying to fix is people dropping out of the workforce to care for ailing relatives, paying them tax dollars for them to personally care for those relatives doesn't really count as keeping them in the workforce.

Plus the propensity for large scale fraud is just insane. When I was at the AGs office we busted a whole apt building (they had two residents who worked in the govt home healthcare aide office and were in on it) for getting paid for 'caring' for dead people.
I agree with the above

We need to create actual jobs for working class folks to provide home health care/aid for the elderly.

Medicare should at least cover part of this cost bc it’s actually cheaper than being in a nursing home (speaking of fleecing Medicare/tax payers blind)

This sort of job should pay better than min wage bc it’s more labor intensive, requires more skills, even if it’s just people skills, and frankly, I don’t want some scrub coming into my house tempted to commit robbery or ID theft bc the job pays so shitty they don’t really have much to lose.
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