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eastwest2300 04-22-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3928060)
I'm the exact opposite. I can wire up most 110/220 with little issue. but I leave the turd herding to the pros. chit does down, stink goes up, don't lick your fingers is all I know of plumbing :icon17:

:ugh2::ugh2:

redondoaveb 04-22-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3928056)
Hmm... you do plumbing!? Im learning new things about you my lord.

Well, he does know how to use the toilet if that counts.

asht 04-22-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3928060)
I'm the exact opposite. I can wire up most 110/220 with little issue. but I leave the turd herding to the pros. chit does down, stink goes up, don't lick your fingers is all I know of plumbing :icon17:


I went over the top in my Garage. 16 13 amp sockets, 4 USB 1.8 amp sockets, 2 19 amp commando sockets for quick jacks and a n other. 4 individually switched 30 W LED flood lights.

Never going to need them all but you can never have enough power. All gone in to a power distribution board

I’ve just remembered I have an American Power Conversion Infrastructure Manager I could manage all the UPS from * (4 Smartups in the house, 1 in the garage and 1 destined for the Den - Man cave Brit lingo) Fiber run too.

Didn’t buy any of this except the UPS. It fell into my boot when I got made redundant once...


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Rusty 04-22-2020 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3928060)
I'm the exact opposite. I can wire up most 110/220 with little issue. but I leave the turd herding to the pros. chit does down, stink goes up, don't lick your fingers is all I know of plumbing :icon17:

I should make it a little clearer. I like soldiering water lines together. I learned to soldier when I worked for Fruehauf way back in the day. One project I did, had over 3,000 soldier joints. I only had a handful that I had to redo. :tup:

Chit piping, if new doesn't bother me. Redoing old lines does.

At Elliott. I did pipe fitting there. I did some pipe fitting at the power plant too.

Spoiler 04-22-2020 09:28 PM

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Installed a ceiling fan today - because it reminds me of strips of bacon.

I just love waking up and staring up in the air and seeing whirling pieces of pork over me... of course, I mean the fan blades...

Rusty 04-22-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3927987)
My essential days might be coming to an end for a bit. My newly repaired shoulder didn't hold up well to 1/2 a 30' stick of 8 bar dropped in my hand from 3 feet...

Why does no one ever listen to the guys in the fvcking field? I've told all these aholes repeatedly. If they keep building these bins like this people will get hurt or worse. But fvck it, save the cost of 12,000 feet of rebar is more important than disposable people :mad:

I'm putting myself on permanent light duty. They can all kiss my azz

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Feel bad for you. It's scary when you have something repaired and turn around and injury it again. Ever since I pull the muscle off the bone in my arm. I've been careful on how much I lift with with it. I don't want a repeat of being laid up for 6 months again. Get that shoulder checked out ASP. You don't want to do anymore damage to it.

-ZS-Carpenter 04-22-2020 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3928069)
I should make it a little clearer. I like soldiering water lines together. I learned to soldier when I worked for Fruehauf way back in the day. One project I did, had over 3,000 soldier joints. I only had a handful that I had to redo. :tup:



Chit piping, if new doesn't bother me. Redoing old lines does.



At Elliott. I did pipe fitting there. I did some pipe fitting at the power plant too.

I don't mind sweating copper lines and pex is supply lines for dummies. But count me out on the poo pipes

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Rusty 04-22-2020 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3928070)
Installed a ceiling fan today - because it reminds me of strips of bacon.

I just love waking up and staring up in the air and seeing whirling pieces of pork over me... of course, I mean the fan blades...

When they do your scheduled lobotomy. They will be slicing through pork belly.

-ZS-Carpenter 04-22-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3928072)
Feel bad for you. It's scary when you have something repaired and turn around and injury it again. Ever since I pull the muscle off the bone in my arm. I've been careful on how much I lift with with it. I don't want a repeat of being laid up for 6 months again. Get that shoulder checked out ASP. You don't want to do anymore damage to it.

Scary is a mild term for it. That was bad the first time. I'm dreading another 3 months of that chit.

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jwick 04-22-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3928004)
We got a foodsaver. Already on the second roll of bags..lol


I use the **** out of mine. More so now with this corona ********. Buy in bulk and vac seal/freeze everything

eastwest2300 04-22-2020 09:46 PM

keep it clean dudes.. wash those d1ck beaters.

Rusty 04-22-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3928073)
I don't mind sweating copper lines and pex is supply lines for dummies. But count me out on the poo pipes

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Pex and Sharkbites for idiots. :rofl2:

I've welded plastic pipe together. I learned on the fly on that method at the power plant. You had one shot to get it right from the get go. You screwed a joint up. You was in trouble. Had to replace 2,000ft of 1" carbon steel acid line with 1" special plastic line that cost $37.00 a foot.

jwick 04-22-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3928011)
Ah ah. We just call it reinforced concrete over here lol


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The rebar is what makes it reinforced

jwick 04-22-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3928012)
You can do that with a steak and call it tartare... try it, low temp for a couple of hours then seer... it is awesome.

Chicken is also great sous vide... lamb not so good when you stick it in for 18 hours and then find out the bag split. Lamb stewed in water for that long smells like dog ****


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Unseasoned pork in the sous vide comes out a little off

Rusty 04-22-2020 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3928075)
Scary is a mild term for it. That was bad the first time. I'm dreading another 3 months of that chit.

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My brother went through 3 rotatory cuff surgeries. Had both shoulders done. Then a couple of years later. Had to redo the one shoulder again because he torn it again. :icon14:

asht 04-22-2020 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3928072)
Feel bad for you. It's scary when you have something repaired and turn around and injury it again. Ever since I pull the muscle off the bone in my arm. I've been careful on how much I lift with with it. I don't want a repeat of being laid up for 6 months again. Get that shoulder checked out ASP. You don't want to do anymore damage to it.


That sounds nasty fella.

If it makes
You feel better, I set fire to myself once and burned the skin off my face. They called
Me 2 face. Thankfully no scars


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Rusty 04-22-2020 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3928088)
That sounds nasty fella.

If it makes
You feel better, I set fire to myself once and burned the skin off my face. They called
Me 2 face. Thankfully no scars


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You are lucky.

vtec to vvel 04-22-2020 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3928070)
Installed a ceiling fan today - because it reminds me of strips of bacon.

I just love waking up and staring up in the air and seeing whirling pieces of pork over me... of course, I mean the fan blades...

You would think that, and only you! :icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:

vtec to vvel 04-22-2020 10:32 PM

Haven't logged on in a couple days and there's 50 pages to catch up on. Not gonna lie, I 'ont feel like going back that far. So....what I miss duudes?

EW, I'm gonna beat you to it:

:gtfo2:

vtec to vvel 04-22-2020 10:37 PM

All this talk about re-opening states on the news, because people are protesting? I'm sorry, but it is too damn early to be opening back up. And FCUK the protestors! HEALTH > WEALTH!

madwi 04-22-2020 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928092)
Haven't logged on in a couple days and there's 50 pages to catch up on. Not gonna lie, I 'ont feel like going back that far. So....what I miss duudes?

EW, I'm gonna beat you to it:

:gtfo2:

Go to user Cp and then set it to 40 posts per page.

Rusty 04-22-2020 10:51 PM

:werd:

Cliboris

:tiphat:



So....that's what it is called. Hmmm

BettyZ 04-22-2020 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928093)
All this talk about re-opening states on the news, because people are protesting? I'm sorry, but it is too damn early to be opening back up. And FCUK the protestors! HEALTH > WEALTH!

From the WSJ:
But the anti-lockdown demonstrations erupting around the country are the canary in the coronavirus mine shaft. Much of America is about to follow them out of the mines.

Here’s why.

The economic imperative is well documented. Economic suicide is not normal behavior, so expect small shops and restaurant franchise owners to start opening quietly, as anecdotes suggest they are.
[...]
Blue states such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California can persist with tight lockdowns if they wish, but other, less densely populated states with better coronavirus data won’t wait.

As to the virus itself, it’s impossible to keep regarding it as an unstoppable daily plague. It has to become something we can grasp.

The most persuasive argument for the lockdowns, made by Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx from day one, was flattening the curve to avoid collapsing the hospital system. Americans by the millions acceded to that suppression strategy and accomplished its goal: Hospital capacity is returning in most major cities. Capacity in other locked-down states never became an issue.
With Covid and the hospitals, we are near an inevitable moment: Covid will be managed like a chronic disease, not as the only disease.

Post-peak coronavirus will be a battle, but it won’t be D-Day. The whole country just did coronavirus D-Day, and we survived. With or without official permission, with or without New York and California, the American people are going to self-release from their coronavirus isolation and get back to business.

These aren’t Trumpian mobs. It is not the rise of anti-science. It is humanity re-establishing social equilibrium. For that, we don’t need instruction.


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Rusty 04-22-2020 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3928096)
From the WSJ:
But the anti-lockdown demonstrations erupting around the country are the canary in the coronavirus mine shaft. Much of America is about to follow them out of the mines.

Here’s why.

The economic imperative is well documented. Economic suicide is not normal behavior, so expect small shops and restaurant franchise owners to start opening quietly, as anecdotes suggest they are.
[...]
Blue states such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California can persist with tight lockdowns if they wish, but other, less densely populated states with better coronavirus data won’t wait.

As to the virus itself, it’s impossible to keep regarding it as an unstoppable daily plague. It has to become something we can grasp.

The most persuasive argument for the lockdowns, made by Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx from day one, was flattening the curve to avoid collapsing the hospital system. Americans by the millions acceded to that suppression strategy and accomplished its goal: Hospital capacity is returning in most major cities. Capacity in other locked-down states never became an issue.
With Covid and the hospitals, we are near an inevitable moment: Covid will be managed like a chronic disease, not as the only disease.

Post-peak coronavirus will be a battle, but it won’t be D-Day. The whole country just did coronavirus D-Day, and we survived. With or without official permission, with or without New York and California, the American people are going to self-release from their coronavirus isolation and get back to business.

These aren’t Trumpian mobs. It is not the rise of anti-science. It is humanity re-establishing social equilibrium. For that, we don’t need instruction.


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:iagree:

I have neighbors with zero money coming in. Been out of work since the end of Feb. Self employed. Can't get unemployment in this state. These people was making 6 figure incomes. And have the bills to match. The bills keep coming in. They can't pay them. V to V. What would you do? Try to go back to work, or let the banks take back the house and the vehicles that you worked so hard to get. Tough decision? Until you have been in their shoes. You really don't know on how it feels to tell your kids that they might have to move out of the house.

old guy 04-22-2020 11:31 PM

You can-also express your freedom not to open your business and as a consumer you don’t have to go out in public and participate in the reopening of anything. Stay home close the windows and shades and wait until you feel things are safe

I participated in the protest because the government can’t tell you that if you own a second home you can’t travel there and use it all the while you’re making payments and paying taxes ! But if you live in Ohio and have a second place in mich. its ok to travel and use your place :gtfo2:
I can’t buy paint at Home Depot but I can get it at Ace hardware :gtfo2:
Government can’t pick winners and losers ! You can kayak, canoe, paddle board but you can’t use a boat with a motor :gtfo2: this is the GREAT LAKES STATE

Everyone takes risks everyday, we know what we’re dealing with take the precautions necessary and get on with life ..... or not, you have that freedom

asht 04-22-2020 11:47 PM

I didn’t do anything with my Z34 today, but I did take a photo because Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are lined up. 500mm lens, 2 x Teleconverters and a lot of stacking / processing in photoshop. Ticked something off the bucket list and it beats thinking about the virus


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asht 04-22-2020 11:47 PM

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asht 04-23-2020 12:06 AM

Changing the subject, has Kim Jong Un popped his clogs? You know the little fella whose country got upset because British barbers mocked his hair style (he made trumps look good) don’t forget Boris looks like a pidgeon has bested on his bonce. But if the little industrious Korean little fella has snuffed it, have a heart and sing along with his old man


https://youtu.be/UEaKX9YYHiQ

Another great, America gave us, Team America and Chuck Norris


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vtec to vvel 04-23-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3928094)
Go to user Cp and then set it to 40 posts per page.

Thanks for that! :tiphat:

vtec to vvel 04-23-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3928096)
From the WSJ:
But the anti-lockdown demonstrations erupting around the country are the canary in the coronavirus mine shaft. Much of America is about to follow them out of the mines.

Here’s why.

The economic imperative is well documented. Economic suicide is not normal behavior, so expect small shops and restaurant franchise owners to start opening quietly, as anecdotes suggest they are.
[...]
Blue states such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California can persist with tight lockdowns if they wish, but other, less densely populated states with better coronavirus data won’t wait.

As to the virus itself, it’s impossible to keep regarding it as an unstoppable daily plague. It has to become something we can grasp.

The most persuasive argument for the lockdowns, made by Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx from day one, was flattening the curve to avoid collapsing the hospital system. Americans by the millions acceded to that suppression strategy and accomplished its goal: Hospital capacity is returning in most major cities. Capacity in other locked-down states never became an issue.
With Covid and the hospitals, we are near an inevitable moment: Covid will be managed like a chronic disease, not as the only disease.

Post-peak coronavirus will be a battle, but it won’t be D-Day. The whole country just did coronavirus D-Day, and we survived. With or without official permission, with or without New York and California, the American people are going to self-release from their coronavirus isolation and get back to business.

These aren’t Trumpian mobs. It is not the rise of anti-science. It is humanity re-establishing social equilibrium. For that, we don’t need instruction.


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I do see it from both points of view, and both sides have valid points. BUT, based on the media (and I get to take this with a grain of salt), protestors are being reckless and we are moving backwards and losing ground to this virus. I'm for opening up businesses, as I will be visiting strip clubs, but, if we are not making progress with this virus, then humanity will disappear. I think both sides should come to a medium.

Rusty 04-23-2020 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3928104)
Changing the subject, has Kim Jong Un popped his clogs? You know the little fella whose country got upset because British barbers mocked his hair style (he made trumps look good) don’t forget Boris looks like a pidgeon has bested on his bonce. But if the little industrious Korean little fella has snuffed it, have a heart and sing along with his old man


https://youtu.be/UEaKX9YYHiQ

Another great, America gave us, Team America and Chuck Norris


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Last reports. The little chit is still kicking. Some say that he had heart surgery, and that he is recovering in some villa in NK.

BettyZ 04-23-2020 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3928097)
:iagree:

I have neighbors with zero money coming in. Been out of work since the end of Feb. Self employed. Can't get unemployment in this state. These people was making 6 figure incomes. And have the bills to match. The bills keep coming in. They can't pay them. V to V. What would you do? Try to go back to work, or let the banks take back the house and the vehicles that you worked so hard to get. Tough decision? Until you have been in their shoes. You really don't know on how it feels to tell your kids that they might have to move out of the house.

Exactly. On one hand, you know there is a small chance of catching a disease. If you do catch it, you will very likely survive.

On the other hand, you know, for a certainty, that what you've built over the course of your life, how you feed your family, your pursuit of the American Dream, will be destroyed if you can't work.

vtec to vvel 04-23-2020 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3928097)
:iagree:

I have neighbors with zero money coming in. Been out of work since the end of Feb. Self employed. Can't get unemployment in this state. These people was making 6 figure incomes. And have the bills to match. The bills keep coming in. They can't pay them. V to V. What would you do? Try to go back to work, or let the banks take back the house and the vehicles that you worked so hard to get. Tough decision? Until you have been in their shoes. You really don't know on how it feels to tell your kids that they might have to move out of the house.

Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months :mad:

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

Rusty 04-23-2020 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928106)
I do see it from both points of view, and both sides have valid points. BUT, based on the media (and I get to take this with a grain of salt), protestors are being reckless and we are moving backwards and losing ground to this virus. I'm for opening up businesses, as I will be visiting strip clubs, but, if we are not making progress with this virus, then humanity will disappear. I think both sides should come to a medium.

We had protests in my state capital of Harrisburg the other day. Local news won't show any footage of the protests. The protests only got a 90 second spot on the news. :icon14: From people that was there. Said that there was a couple thousand people there. You will find very little about the protest on facecrap, twatter, etc.

BettyZ 04-23-2020 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928106)
I do see it from both points of view, and both sides have valid points. BUT, based on the media (and I get to take this with a grain of salt), protestors are being reckless and we are moving backwards and losing ground to this virus. I'm for opening up businesses, as I will be visiting strip clubs, but, if we are not making progress with this virus, then humanity will disappear. I think both sides should come to a medium.

Thing to remember: MSM is mostly NYC-based. All the stories are about the situation in a dense-packed hyper-urban core with mass transit as the only real means of transportation. NYC does not describe Topeka, or Grand Rapids, or Pennsyltucky, or the majority of the rest of America.

Media focuses on what brings in viewers and plays to their base. Pictures of a hundred yahoos with Trump flags, plate carriers, and slung ARs outside Half-Wit's offices brings clicks. Pics of thousands of distance-abiding persons driving around in their cars protesting, doesn't.

Medium in politics became untenable as soon as MSM and social media framed the issue as Red vs.Blue, Trump supporters vs. the false god of unproven scientific theory.

We've avoided a collapse of the hospital system. Thst was the purpose of the lockdowns. Thst purpose is now moot, unless more outbreaks flare up.

Dump the decision on the free market and the People. If you don't feel safe going out, the past few weeks have proven there are plenty of services that allow you to stay fed and happy in the confines of your home. But everyone else's hopes and dreams cannot be allowed to crumble for anything but the gravest of reasons.

vtec to vvel 04-23-2020 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3928112)
Thing to remember: MSM is mostly NYC-based. All the stories are about the situation in a dense-packed hyper-urban core with mass transit as the only real means of transportation. NYC does not describe Topeka, or Grand Rapids, or Pennsyltucky, or the majority of the rest of America.

Media focuses on what brings in viewers and plays to their base. Pictures of a hundred yahoos with Trump flags, plate carriers, and slung ARs outside Half-Wit's offices brings clicks. Pics of thousands of distance-abiding persons driving around in their cars protesting, doesn't.

Medium in politics became untenable as soon as MSM and social media framed the issue as Red vs.Blue, Trump supporters vs. the false god of unproven scientific theory.

We've avoided a collapse of the hospital system. Thst was the purpose of the lockdowns. Thst purpose is now moot, unless more outbreaks flare up.

Dump the decision on the free market and the People. I'd you don't feel safe going out, the past few weeks have proven there are plenty of services that allow you to stay fed and happy in the confines of your home.

Agreed. Media tends to only give one side of the story, and always seems to focus on the bad, rather than the bad and the good. Countless stories on how many people are infected/died, but very seldom on successful recovery stories.

I can't help but think and equate the opening of businesses so soon and at once to the mass gatherings at the beaches during spring break in the midst of the outbreak.

BettyZ 04-23-2020 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928110)
Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months :mad:

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

No offense taken. Except for your going to law school. Are you out of your damn mind?! Both the GF and I are attorneys, for our sins, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone - except maybe JAR.

I appreciate that you can have a grounded rational discussion ab this. Spooler would be shouting ab Wuhan chemtrails and CCP bats in the sky when really he took too much mescaline, while ZCanada would be too busy feklating the Queen to respond.

Rusty 04-23-2020 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3928110)
Wasn't trying to start a debate and my sincerest apologies if I offended anyone.

My inlaws have their own business also and they, too, have ZERO coming in because of this covid-19 sh!t. I am one of the fortunate few to have a job that pays, and I am helping out my inlaws as much as I can with finances. I've known my father inlaw since I was about 7, as he was my taekwondo instructor and a tough MOFO, but saw him cry for the first time last month because he was in a sticky situation to where he wasn't able to pay for the notes on his company and personal vehicles, the commercial space he has leased out, nor his mortgage.

Before the wifey was diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety this past fall, we were pulling in almost $200k/year, and we were used to a certain lifestyle. Luckily, we didn't live too far outside of our means and were big on saving, but still have our debts. Took a huge demotion and paycut at work because I started law school. The money we were saving as a down payment for a house is nearly gone and the money we had in separate savings has been gone for about a month. What we had in savings took us 10 years to build up and reduced to nearly nothing in a matter of almost 2 months :mad:

So I get it. COVID-19 or not, bills are coming in and have to be paid and we still have to eat. I just wish there was a plan to come to a medium compromise to where businesses are opening back up responsibly and where the virus itself is declining. Even with businesses opening back up, I don't think people are comfortable to just going back to pre-covid-19 times.

No problem.

I seen this whole scenario before. I lived. Back in the early 80's. Around here in western Pa. The coal mines and steel mills shut down. Thousands of people were left jobless. The mines and mills never came back. People were making big money with these jobs. Easy 6 figures with overtime. A house, car, truck, motorcycle, boat, guns, etc. The way it happened after lots of friends lost their jobs. First to go was the boat, then the bike, next the play toys, the truck, all of the guns but for one. When it got down to the house that was left. That's when the divorce happened. After that was the suicides. I lost a few friends from that. Seen a lot of good families ripped apart. The saying around here at the time was. "It's a recession when your neighbor gets laid off. It's a depression when you get laid off."

On the news every night was stories of people getting robbed coming out of grocery stories. The robbers wasn't taking the money. They was taking the food. Most of all the victims said the same thing. The robber said that he has kids to feed. He wants the food, not the money.

To me, seeing whats going on around me. Feels like I'm seeing history repeating. And it's following the same time line.

Rusty 04-23-2020 01:37 AM

Riddle me this Batman.

Back in Jan. CDC said no need for masks. So no masks were being worn for the most part by most people. Virus has started to peak in most areas lately. A week ago. To go out anywhere. Now I have to wear a mask. :icon14: So for over 3 months, I haven't worn a mask during the time where I would have the greatest chance of getting the virus. You would think that the CDC should have said back in Jan. Feb. You need to wear a mask. Why I am slamming my head into a wall trying to understand this mess. :mad:

vtec to vvel 04-23-2020 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3928114)
No offense taken. Except for your going to law school. Are you out of your damn mind?! Both the GF and I are attorneys, for our sins, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone - except maybe JAR.

I appreciate that you can have a grounded rational discussion ab this. Spooler would be shouting ab Wuhan chemtrails and CCP bats in the sky when really he took too much mescaline, while ZCanada would be too busy feklating the Queen to respond.

I envy you both. I should have just gone directly to law school after finishing undergrad, but better late than never right? Law school was always the plan, but just needed time to find what direction I wanted to take.

We all have our opinions and even disagreements, but that's what makes us who we are. We're all friends and brothers/sisters at the end of the day. :tiphat:


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