Carlos Ghosn Steppin' Down!!
 

Carlos Ghosn stepping down as Nissan CEO

Added article.

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news...as-nissan-ceo/


I think this will be a blessing for the Z

unless the new guy decides to end it lol

New guy is a Japanese national, Looking good :icon17:


Interesting read Thanks OP

My thoughts EXACTLY!!* Whose gonna love a Z more? The French guy or the Japanese guy?
I see high funding for the Z when it goes into production. I wouldn't be surprised this move delays the Z a Lil longer. For the better though.

Ghosen. Showed no love to enthusiasts. The Z, GTR sentra n Juke needa get done right if they gonna carry a Nismo name.

I believe it was part of his "Cost cutting" plan, the Z/GTR may have low margin numbers but now that he has indeed gotten Nissan out of the rut, hopefully this can progress.

It also (From the sounds of the article) that he is still invested in the Renault/Mitsu combination, more so than Nissan, as if hes letting the company kind of go off on its own again

I'm pretty sure Ghosn is Brazilian, not French.

What's wrong with the GTR? Low production number cars have long lives in the car selling world. You can't compare it to the Corvette either. That is anything but a low volume selling car. You can't really expect Nissan to put out a new halo car every 5 years. There was a reason Nissan was in deep financial woes prior to the arrival of Ghosn. At least they kept it competitive and gave it tweaks over the years, culminating in one hella expensive and fast Nismo GTR.

Sure, Porsche can do it. But they're largely an SUV brand these days and sports cars were their thing since day 1. They were never really setup to be a high volume selling company. Plus, have you seen the exorbitant prices they charge for anything related to their cars? Nissan was always a DD car brand with sprinklings of sports cars.

considering Ghosen brought us the G35C which i luved im sorry to hear dis.

but at least da new guy looks EXACTLY THE SAME in a black suit. no one'll be able to tell a difference.

SMH.... First off, it's not every 5 years that we get a new Halo. It's on the 7th year. I believe that it is possible considering the CNC process to build a GT-R shouldn't be excessively expensive. It's blocky, not many angular lines and the structure is basic. It doesn't have a swooping R8 like design neither is it light performance like a base 911. It's design is more intelligence than money. And that's a great thing. But it doesn't carry that type of build structure.
Secondly, outside of the engine. It's a production vehicle. There's not a whole lot inside a GTR you can't find in a $48k Lexus. Though the new car is beautiful inside and the leather looks amazing. Lexus found a way to have that quality in lesser cars.

The money case is in the hand-built engine so that's where I can understand the GT-R running into the $70,000k range. The other $40k. I don't see it in the car. IMHO, looking at all the cars around if and looking at the GT-R. The price reflects more it's legendary name and it's track record than what they threw into it. The GT-R, appears to be what it is, based on a teams intelligence doing a lot with a little vs a big budget

The GT-R is a great car. I'm not saying that. In my opinion the GT-R needed to evolve more. First off it strayed too far away from the R34 in size and weight. It grew weigh too big. Which to me in itself is a sign of cost cutting. The engine power increasing are minor parts replacements and mostly ECU tunes. That's the beauty of an FI car. You can keep giving it more power with little to no effort.

All that said. YES I think 7 years is reasonable to come out with a new Halo. Or if not. Give it an aggressive refresh. In the case of the GT-R. Nissan has never needed or wanted the American market for the GT-R. We received it after years of begging based on the cult following. It was doing fine NOT SELLING in the U.S. That said... I really don't think Nissan's financial woes are based on engineering two halo cars. They're a lot of factors in why car companies end up struggling. In most cases, it's more about expanding into other parts of a global market and not being prepared for the repercussions of a really slow start. Not how much money you dumped into a GTR. Cutting sports car money is a side effect of messing up in other aspects in business.

I'm sure keeping up with the GTR is not draining their pockets. They just choose to move slow to focus on other things.

You sold your G35? He's still gonna be on the board. Just not the main man for Japan. I wanna see change. I think Ghosen went a Lil nuts with electric powered cars and neglected everything with an engine and real transmission.

I did last yr after 12 yrs ownership. Was one of my favorite coupes. But it was old and wanted more tech and nicer interior so got da GTI with everything on it. Plus wanted to try DSG

How you're liking DSG

Article added up top.

French, Brazilian, Portuguese, Spanish... all related. Lol. :tup:

Unknown_370, you and I will never agree, lol. That's ok though.

Just like every halo car, there is a halo car tax associated with it. For no other reason because the company can.

Also, low production numbers mean higher end costs to the consumer. Sure they could have sold the GTR for 20k less... but then they would sell a ton more of them. Nissan wanted to keep the car exclusive. A halo car isn't meant to be seen on every corner, like a mustang.

Also, Nissan was deep in the red prior to Ghosn. Very deep. Guess what got them there?

On the other hand, sounds like your Nissan revival is already dead in the water. Sounds like another cost cutter is in place of Ghosn. I keep saying it... money comes first for Nissan, and little more. Argue it all you want, but by the end of the day, I'm still right!

Meet The New Cost-Killing Boss At Nissan, Same As The Old Cost-Killing Boss

It doesn't matter in any way. I'm getting on the Alfa bandwagon and as far as my coupe. I'm keeping my Z and possibly adding a Porsche. GTS or HOPEFULLY something cheaper. Hopefully. So all your extra shyt about my expectations is null n void.

All of us will have to wait and see. Regardless, happier every day i have my Z34.

Well said as always Sir :iagree:

I moved onto my 2017 Corvette Z06 and never looked back :tup:

Why wait.. There are many great sports cars on the market Right Now !! Why wait..

I find it adorable with how upset unknown_370 gets. :D

It's okay man. Life's too short to be so bummed out. What can we do? Nissan is a figment of its former self, and it appears that's not changing anytime soon.

I wonder if this new guy is planning on killing the z35 also.

off topic but speaking of Porsche I had the pleasure of driving in a 2016 911 Turbo S... So I have a new goal now. 911 Turbo S in the next 5 years. I just gotta believe! Never driven in a car that made me cum in my pants so many times in a row. Literally had to pay the guy to replace his seat.

Dang man, a lot of the OG's left the Z platform lol. congrats on the Vette! I wanna race one but havent had the chance.

Greeting's my forum Brother :tup:

:eek: a 2016 911 Turbo S.. Now that Sir is pure win out of the box :yum:

What makes you think I'm upset newb? Everybody whose been around knows. When I get upset. I'm banned for a month. The whole forum is cracking up for 2 weeks n you'd be basically, well uh.... humiliated. :tup:

Bruh you ain't even close to getting me started. You're just another A typical saying a lot while saying nothing at all.

I'm not invalidating your points. I'm just saying you make passionate statements on shyt that's multi faceted and mostly opinion. If you're trying to change my view? You're not. That article you posted about the new CEO is someone else's opinion. N all I said was I hope he puts more passion into Nismo. You make it sound like my hopes need to be busted.

I have the dough for better. But I don't want the market to dry up for the underdogs. Two years ago. I myself was an underdog.

So what's your issue Lil man? :roflpuke2:

Oh sh*t he calling you poor!!!!! :drama:

:yawn: boring, I decided it is not for me. Okay for dd though.

Just want to point out Carlos is still chairman (or CEO, I forget) of the Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi alliance. AKA he's still head honcho. He has to turn Mitsubishi around like he did with Nissan.

AND someone fact check me here, but Carlos greenlighted the revival of the Z with 350Z. He agreed that Nissan needed something in that segment. At the end of the day, this will be business as usual for Nissan. I wouldn't consider any major changes coming from this.

:icon18::rofl2:

That's not what I said but.... OK. LMAO

Yes. He's on the board as a chairman

I don't think a VW is aggressive enough to really get that feel. The EVO MR stirs the soul. A GTRor GLA/CLA 45AMG. Those are cars that will change your mind on DCT. The reviewers get it backwards. Trust me on this one.

Updating my post.

I say that cuz like Porsche Audi, they focus on seamless shifting. Mitsubishi, Nissan, Mercedes feel way more mechanical after pulling the paddle. Giving you a "I just shifted" feel.

Whaaaaaat! :-0

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u are entitled to post watever BS u want.. doesnt matter, AT's are faking boring period.

Whatever man.... I'm just giving a Lil input. You always gotta turn a regular convo into some stupid azz shyt. Try getting laid bruh. Or get some Viagra if your problem runs a Lil deeper than just gettin laid. Ur way uptight bruh. :tup:

The key is for the three to get healthy financially and build on their strengths. They will share platforms more than ever, leverage their design teams, expand self driving technology, computer and tech on wheels instead of wheels and motor with a computer in it, and niche out certain brands targeting Europe, Asia, and North America. They will use the same formula to rebuild Mitsubishi. Design a car with mass appeal and come up with a performance focused grail car targeting the enthusiasts. My fear is the age of driverless tech. Fifteen to twenty years from now.........there may not be a car for the enthusiasts so hang on to your Z's.

I love this more :drama: please.

Unknown _370 your the man of the hour!:tiphat:

:iagree::iagree:
If it does make sense for VW to collaborate and acquire Porsche,Audi and Bugatti. Why not Nissan/Renault and Mitsubishi collaboration of knowledge.

Dang I used to drive a 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR4 and a 1987 Lancer box type.
For years it ruled the Rally world before Subaru took the crown.

:iagree::iagree::iagree: totally
Why wait till the party is over when you can bring home the prom queen RIGHT NOW!!!

Off subject, but why does like every WRX owner ever lower their car at the same time they add mudflaps? I mean, isn't that counterproductive if you're racing offroad?:confused:

For more downforce maybe? Lol
Or
Because its a race car! :tup:

I hate dem mudflaps on da WRX da way dey mount it diagonally sticking out like a kindergartner sucking at pasting paper..

that "shifted feel" is clunky lol. well at least from 1st to 2nd. I always feel like my gearbox is about to **** up on me.

I think there should be a balls to the wall colab for a Nissan GTR AMG. Get the crazy loud and exciting AMG engine then GTR the **** outta it.

The AMG GTC coupe is pretty close to that.

What's funny is you really have no way how car companies work and get butt hurt that Nissan isnt bending to your wishes, while your bros high five you, thinking you're right (which by the way, you're not, because Nissan clearly doesn't give two squirts of piss about what "you" want).

Keep trying, bruh. I've been around much longer than you think.

Maybe one day Nissan will listen to you, LOL. Until then, thanks for clearly proving I'm right since Nissan keeps doing exactly as I keep suggesting and predicting.

Please, come back with a 40 paragraph reply. I'll be sure to skip through that too. :bowrofl: