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JARblue 03-15-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3137785)
What is different about yours? It honestly seemed ridiculously loud. It was out in cranberry on 19 last year. Maybe you had a different set up then?

Ummm... he has straight pipes from the headers back. Why do you think it was so loud? Most FI exhausts have resonators in at least one (if not two) locations that quiets them down quite a bit compared to FP's setup.

FPenvy 03-15-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3138381)
Nope, Im 28 not 16 anymore. I don't want to worry about getting pulled over every time I get on the car.


Also 28 and I don't worry about getting pulled over. Exhaust has been on for a year now and never been pulled over for it. Your argument is invalid.

FPenvy 03-15-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3138384)
Ummm... he has straight pipes from the headers back. Why do you think it was so loud? Most FI exhausts have resonators in at least one (if not two) locations that quiets them down quite a bit compared to FP's setup.


Don't forget mufflers too lol

Bulletz4break 03-15-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3138384)
Ummm... he has straight pipes from the headers back. Why do you think it was so loud? Most FI exhausts have resonators in at least one (if not two) locations that quiets them down quite a bit compared to FP's setup.

Okay good to know. Not trying to offend FP, that just doesn't sound good to me. I had a loud exhaust on my STI and I used to get pulled over for it all the time. That car had a reason to be loud though (upgraded turbo, external wastage, equal length headers, etc). I don't see the benefit at all on these cars to have a zero back pressure exhaust. I'd rather have a little more torque then worry about not gaining a couple horsepower any day.

Tadpole 03-15-2015 12:52 PM

You will need to factor in drone as well as sound for your car. I have run three different setups so far all of which are custom and are not name brand specific
My first setup was a true dual exhaust with the stock muffler. Idle and low rpms sounded fine. Wot sounded horrible but no drone at all.
My second setup was the same true dual with 12" resonators and top speed axle backs to replace the stock muffler. It was loud at startup and screamed at wot but the drone was driving me crazy
My 3rd and current setup I had a custom X pipe, true dual, 18" resonators with my top speed axle back. End result was a lot quieter lower rumble tone with minimal drone. Everyone I have had listen to tell me they loved the sound.
If I set it up right the first time my exhaust would have cost about $600 and that's including the axle backs but I have spent over well over $1000 to get the sound with no drone effect. Any way you go, you should make sure you are getting 18" resonators from any choice of system out there. You will get the lower deeper growl you are looking for

Tadpole 03-15-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3138268)
Same setup. You're either 50+ years old or you have no concept of a real exhaust.

Take it easy on us old guys FPenvy. :icon18:

bkngo 03-15-2015 02:26 PM

I would say FI resonated setup is the way to go for sound and power... the only time it is obnoxiously loud are cold starts... other than that I feel that it has the right tone... I've listen to many exhaust setups on Youtube on my computer with my Astro A50 headphones and Klipsch Promedia 2.1 (I'm using a Creative titanium hd soundcard) that reproduces the sounds well.

Rusty 03-15-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3138488)
Take it easy on us old guys FPenvy. :icon18:

He's still a young puppy in diapers. :rofl2:

Powerwiz 03-15-2015 09:59 PM

Whatever exhaust you get will sound lightyears better then stock. There was a 370z next to mine on at the stop light the other day and I rolled down the windows and let him go first to hear it...thing sucks donkey butt.

bkngo 03-16-2015 06:44 PM

I really like the sound and look of the Ark exhaust but I wanted something with a little bit more power... FI met my needs... no regrets

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bkngo (Post 3139750)
I really like the sound and look of the Ark exhaust but I wanted something with a little bit more power... FI met my needs... no regrets

12-14 week wait for FI... :confused: I wouldn't have it until after summer

axmea? 03-16-2015 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3140046)
12-14 week wait for FI... :confused: I wouldn't have it until after summer


It is worth the wait. Consider FI's NR HFC, NR CB exhaust, and their stainless mufflers. You can go for Motordyne ART too......or SOHO. Look up martin82.

Spooler 03-16-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3140046)
12-14 week wait for FI... :confused: I wouldn't have it until after summer

Buy a like new used one. That is what I did.

roplusbee 03-17-2015 09:09 AM

So much disagreement in this thread, lol.

1. F.I. (I prefer the 3" model, but have owned both)
2. AAM
3. The competition

I can't believe people actually even consider Borla. They even sound bad on domestics. I would prefer a hacked up stock or custom shop over that.............

Z34gallore 03-17-2015 11:31 AM

Deep sounds aren't really my style but... Tanabe Medalion Touring? Not bad I think as far as the sound goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tLoxRhe4vo

charjohnnie 03-24-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3132279)
or disagreeing that xbox is better than PS :stirthepot:

PS is better than Xbox :icon14:

charjohnnie 03-24-2015 10:34 PM

After reading a lot, watching hundreds of exhaust clips and hearing a few, looks like like the FI has the best quality, fit and customer service but I have heard ppl complaining about drone and hiss even on the 18 resonators and damn 3,4 months wait time? If there's so much demand why can't theses guys keep em on stock?
Now sound has to go to Motordyne, the Shockwave sounds the best of all, at least to me, and looks like it's one of the few ones without a hiss or drone but very exotic sound @WOT just a bit overpriced... I've been exhaust hunting for a couple months now and it looks like it's gonna be the Motordyne exhaust, now... How and where do I get the best deal?
To the op whatever you end up getting will be better than the stock system which sucks, the exhaust on my stock 350HR always sounded great Nissan dropped the ball on its successor...

Tadpole 03-25-2015 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by charjohnnie (Post 3148210)
PS is better than Xbox :icon14:

Actually the pc is better than both of those. :rofl2:

Tadpole 03-25-2015 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by charjohnnie (Post 3148228)
After reading a lot, watching hundreds of exhaust clips and hearing a few, looks like like the FI has the best quality, fit and customer service but I have heard ppl complaining about drone and hiss even on the 18 resonators and damn 3,4 months wait time? If there's so much demand why can't theses guys keep em on stock?
Now sound has to go to Motordyne, the Shockwave sounds the best of all, at least to me, and looks like it's one of the few ones without a hiss or drone but very exotic sound @WOT just a bit overpriced... I've been exhaust hunting for a couple months now and it looks like it's gonna be the Motordyne exhaust, now... How and where do I get the best deal?
To the op whatever you end up getting will be better than the stock system which sucks, the exhaust on my stock 350HR always sounded great Nissan dropped the ball on its successor...

I found an add on houstons craigslist selling an fi. Not sure if he will ship or not. It's brand new.

BC416 03-25-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by charjohnnie (Post 3148228)
After reading a lot, watching hundreds of exhaust clips and hearing a few, looks like like the FI has the best quality, fit and customer service but I have heard ppl complaining about drone and hiss even on the 18 resonators and damn 3,4 months wait time? If there's so much demand why can't theses guys keep em on stock?Now sound has to go to Motordyne, the Shockwave sounds the best of all, at least to me, and looks like it's one of the few ones without a hiss or drone but very exotic sound @WOT just a bit overpriced... I've been exhaust hunting for a couple months now and it looks like it's gonna be the Motordyne exhaust, now... How and where do I get the best deal?
To the op whatever you end up getting will be better than the stock system which sucks, the exhaust on my stock 350HR always sounded great Nissan dropped the ball on its successor...

They are built to order so they aren't being stocked. You call and order what you want and they build it from scratch.

I lucked out and found one in the classifieds. They pop up from time to time. I called F.I. for a new gasket and hardware set. Great customer service, easy to order from, prompt replies to questions and Kevin even emailed me a PDF of the install directions since I purchased used.

brancky3 03-25-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3148573)
They are built to order so they aren't being stocked. You call and order what you want and they build it from scratch.

I lucked out and found one in the classifieds. They pop up from time to time.

Is there any reason for that aside from lower overhead costs? Surely it would make sense to keep just a few in stock to avoid people not wanting to wait and losing a sale.

BC416 03-25-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3148576)
Is there any reason for that aside from lower overhead costs? Surely it would make sense to keep just a few in stock to avoid people not wanting to wait and losing a sale.

No clue honestly. I'm sure they've given a reason somewhere on here.

Tadpole 03-25-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3148576)
Is there any reason for that aside from lower overhead costs? Surely it would make sense to keep just a few in stock to avoid people not wanting to wait and losing a sale.

Supply and demand concept. You will pay a lot more with little to no supply. Waiting 3 months for a high dollar exhaust is ridiculous when there is so much competition out there but it is US made so a little justification for them there.
I still prefer the custom route at my local muffler shop. You can do the same setup at half the cost installed and be driving down the road with it in a couple of hours. Buy a good set of axle backs and take them with you.
Your resonators length is key to the tone you are looking for.

brancky3 03-25-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3148587)
Supply and demand concept. You will pay a lot more with little to no supply. Waiting 3 months for a high dollar exhaust is ridiculous when there is so much competition out there but it is US made so a little justification for them there.
I still prefer the custom route at my local muffler shop. You can do the same setup at half the cost installed and be driving down the road with it in a couple of hours. Buy a good set of axle backs and take them with you.
Your resonators length is key to the tone you are looking for.

I agree with you going custom - I've done that on my last few cars and have had great success. I still can't believe people are paying $400+ for 'short tails' when it would literally cost $50 and a pair of tips to create one at a shop.

That Pale Guy 03-25-2015 09:08 AM

So why does Borla get no love? The price could for sure be lower, I agree. I've read posts that it just has no sound, I think it has a deep somewhat American muscle type growl. I also realize the gains aren't cost efficient but I'm willing to bet most people arguing about gains don't even track but just like to drive fast on the interstate, as do I, but could someone who actually knows exhausts inside and out explain to me why Borla gets no love. In the end its personal preference I get it but I'd just like an explanation from a logical non biased stand point. Although I'm willing to bet I've answered my own question when I mentioned price and gains. Thanks.

charjohnnie 03-25-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3148367)
I found an add on houstons craigslist selling an fi. Not sure if he will ship or not. It's brand new.

You have a link?
looking for motordyne but if i get a great deal on FI i'd pull the trigger

charjohnnie 03-25-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3148594)
I agree with you going custom - I've done that on my last few cars and have had great success. I still can't believe people are paying $400+ for 'short tails' when it would literally cost $50 and a pair of tips to create one at a shop.

Yea i agree custom exhaust would be way cheaper, but you never know what your exhaust will sound like until you hear it...
But yea i remember when exhaust systems back in the 90s or early 2000s were only a couple hundred dollars now its amazing the some exhaust systems are going for a few grand

luigi90210 03-25-2015 04:25 PM

literally $100 test pipes and top speed axle backs, if you want more power go with aam's nismo h and mid pipe replacements
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/watch?v=jz4u76l7Bak

Cove87 03-31-2015 09:47 AM

No, no, no, no, no.. :shakes head:

If you want a throaty growl, listen to this (not sure how to embed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLV0WlHMgvY

ART Pipes, AAM Short Tails and CAI in this vid.

I've got a stock 2015 Nismo atm, but I just ordered ART Pipes, AAM Short Tails and AAM S-Line Midpipe last Friday.. should be here by this Thursday or Friday.

I'll post a vid after I've put everything on.. hopefully my lack of CAI won't leave me without a comparably deep tone.

Chasingstatus 03-31-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cove87 (Post 3155209)
No, no, no, no, no.. :shakes head:

If you want a throaty growl, listen to this (not sure how to embed):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLV0WlHMgvY

ART Pipes, AAM Short Tails and CAI in this vid.

I've got a stock 2015 Nismo atm, but I just ordered ART Pipes, AAM Short Tails and AAM S-Line Midpipe last Friday.. should be here by this Thursday or Friday.

I'll post a vid after I've put everything on.. hopefully my lack of CAI won't leave me without a comparably deep tone.

your definitely not going to regret that combo. Will sound great for sure that is going to be super loud tho. this is a vid of just me w intakes, aam short tails, and aam non resonated test pipes. don't mind my sister and her goon friends.i needed a camera person. I plan on uploading another with the S-line midpipe as well soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek-7XTCjrt0

Cove87 03-31-2015 02:37 PM

LoL I always get excited when I hear other folks' exhaust when it's loud but clean. I just hope my own setup doesn't turn out to be too brutal to live with eheheh. Oh well.. The wife has her own car and my parts are already on the way. Too late to care if she'll be able to cope with it or not haha

Bulletz4break 03-31-2015 05:23 PM

FWIW I installed my Invidia Gemini catback on Thursday and I love it

Chasingstatus 03-31-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cove87 (Post 3155527)
LoL I always get excited when I hear other folks' exhaust when it's loud but clean. I just hope my own setup doesn't turn out to be too brutal to live with eheheh. Oh well.. The wife has her own car and my parts are already on the way. Too late to care if she'll be able to cope with it or not haha

See my gf already hates my car, she's still a bit pissed I got rid of my 350z last may. She has yet to fall in love w the 370z. Your set up will be super crisp w the art pipes.... Do those have the cel fix though? That's one thing I can't deal w is lights on my dash

Cove87 03-31-2015 09:38 PM

Deep Growly Exhaust
 
Yea they got a spot to insert the O2 sensor from the stock cats. Haven't really come across CEL complaints from folks running ART pipes.

peleincubus 04-29-2015 12:09 AM

can anyone tell me how intakes or intake manifolds can change the sound of a car or an exhaust?

and do HFC's change the note of an exhaust or just amplify it and make the same sound louder?

im probably going for a purchase of a borla exhaust in the next few weeks. i was going to get a berk but they are apparently out of production at the moment.

the 2 main things i am looking for is a somewhat oem look (otherwise i would get a FI order in tomorrow) and something deep and growly like the thread states. a bonus would be horsepower gain, but from what i have read on this site all exhausts are pretty close in that regard.

thanks for any help guys. it is much appreciated while i try to learn more about cars and especially 370's

Cove87 04-29-2015 09:04 AM

Well, comparing how my car sounds relative to one with the same exhaust + Cold air intake, I can tell you CAI is going to give a noticeable increase in overall "growl" and a little more deepness, so Stillen G3s will be my next mod, then a tune finally.
The car I've been comparing to mine also has intake manifold as well, so I'm guess that is probably also subtly affecting growl/deepness, but I can't say from experience.

Cat-replacements of any sort will definitely increase the volume alot over CBE by itself. But if you want a deeper sound, I highly recommend the Motordyne ART pipes. My AAM setup already had a deep sound, but the resonated test pipes made it ever deeper and amplified the growl. But your neighbors might hate you when you start the car in the mornings, lol

Cove87 05-14-2015 05:29 PM

Deep Growly Exhaust
 
Finally, some decent raw video.. forgive my horrible half-editing, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5didk_SigO4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5did...ature=youtu.be

Hard take-off at 1:00

Another thought.. On the hard take off, does that sound like rasp at all? Can't really make my mind up about it.. At 3k RPM, when the throaty growl vanishes and it just screams, I can't decide if the initial burst of sound is rasp, or just pure unbridled engine noise due to lack of muffler..? Or both?

Makes me consider maybe looking into a more reserved/refined rear section at times (times when I don't want to blow people's ear drums out just because I stretch the gears out a little bit), but then again, I fear I might loose some of that lovely low-end growl.


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