ANyone know If Stillen is now doing Dry Filters over K&N Oil.

Dead thread resurrected after being 18 months dormant. This probably happens around here all the time. Don't get me wrong, still a valid topic especially for those with newer Z's.

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No, and a word of caution. For the install of Injen's CAI and AEM and now Nismo, the bumper will need to be removed for the install. Removing the bumber over a period of time can lead to eventual misaligned edges over time. When I need to perform cleaning maintenence on the filters I will jack up the front of car turn the wheel towards the inside and pop out the removable clip retainers on the plastic wheel well and pull it outward far enough to reach the filter, remove the screw and filter clean and reinstall. It's actually quicker than removing the bumper....only 4 (total) pop out clips versus a gazillion on the bumper removal.

No I do not know if Stillen is...but you can buy Amsoil Nano Filter (dry). You will need to know the dimensons of the Stillen to crossreference to Amsoil. Amsoil Dry is the way to go if you want the best in filtration. Oiled will give a few more in HP it's a trade off and a lot of oil heads know dry is the way for clean oil when doing a UOA (Used Oil Analysis).

BTW: Check out the R&D thread on the new intake design -- elliptical velocity stack within airbox/resonance chamber.

Very, very promising design! Not just tube + filter -- development is underway!

link?

Maybe referring to this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ml#post1736901

Sorry, here --> http://www.the370z.com/mid-atlantic-...-test-car.html (yes, dumb typo in title...)

Again, this is only just in R&D stages, so limited updates as of yet. Details in thread.

very interesting, really hope the prototype shows promise.

interesting, subd.

Things I would be looking for:

air flow
gains
heat soak
sound
throttle response
ease of filter maintenance
hydrolock
cost

Is it plug n play ? or tune required?

ok im not really feeling like removing the bumber since its a brand new car and i just dont wanna touch it get everything all loose and misaligned. so if i go the short ram route which intake is the best in terms of hp gains?

dont go short ram, just do maf tubes and filters:

Z1 Silicone Post-MAF Intake Hoses

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so much hp gain am i looking at with the maf tubes and drop in filters??

and dyno on this?

Probably have to read thru the gazillion pages on the thread above. Sorry I do not know. I started reading the thread a long time and never finished it. Maybe post the question on that thread for a quick reponse.

That combo will net you 5-8whp at the most.

After factoring in all the heat soak that the short rams will be susceptible to, the gains should be around the same for half the cost. Although it won't sound as cool.

5-8?? efff that im just gonna go stillen gen 3 and remove the damn bumper and get around 17 to the wheels correct??

Yup

past 7000rpm yea

If you plan on doing a bunch of other breather mods (exhaust, cats) you'll probably get minimal gains with any intake solution.
You'll have to remove the bumper yearly.

Who told you that?

No, it's more than that...

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...ed-comparo.jpg

Assume another 3-4 with the tubes.

Common sense. You don't have to clean the filters?

Goal is to achieve all of things while keeping costs at or below Stillen G3's, but we'll have to wait and see.

These guys seem to know their onions on fluid dynamics and make beautiful CNC stuff (see link in the thread to pics of their FR-S intake in development), so I think it is very, very promising.

Goal is also plug and play, no tuning required, but of course, may serve to optimize gains as with any other bolt-on.

I'm stressing the importance of rigorous dyno testing too -- I want to see something developed for the community (and of course for me!) that clearly works as advertised, and offers high bang for the buck.

It's pretty easy, and once you realize how the bumper actually attaches to the car you'll realize that it's really more of a fascia... Go for it!

Jordo, the link to thread was awesome. True with many bolts on, a tune is going to achieve the most gains. Thanks for taking on this project!

what do you guys think about the r2c intakes? they have heat shields to prevent heat soak.

i like it. just got it installed this week, did not dyno, but the car does feel more responsive and the growl the intakes give under throttle is awesome, i know no different (other intakes), but i am happy i got the r2c

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I want to see something cool built that offers bang for the buck so everybody wins.

Their set up isn't bad, but it's not clear how well the heat shield seals to the hood or mates to the front of the car.

If it does so perfectly -- awesome!

But... a CNC'd elliptical velocity stack with perfect shielding and proper ducting has potential to be even awesomer. Hence my interest in getting the Swift Racing project going.

Filters are good for 40k miles before a recharge is required on the Stillen Gen 3.
The filters themselves need to replaced around 80k-100k miles from what Stillen reports.

I don't like to assume, from what others have reported with just filter/tube has been 5-8whp.

This is not the case if you plan on adding any other breathing mods. The dyno's ive seen for the tubes and filters are around 8 - 10 AFTER adding exhaust and other things... Thats right around where the stillens would be after breathing mods...

Remember, manufacturer claims are for the Intakes with no other modifications and once you add them, those claims diminish...

Intake gains are mostly found in turbocharged or supercharged applications... There isn't much to be expected in a NA vehicle. OEM intakes are not that bad to get huge gains from replacing them...

Should check out what Akuma motorsports is doing with their new intakes!

Stillen intakes
 

I know there's the search feature but I'm asking which intake I should get. I'm at that point where I need to order intakes and I'm not sure which ones to get. I want the k&n intakes because they stay in the engine bay and there is no need for the removal of the front bumper. I really want the stillen intakes or the aam intakes but idk how to take off my bumper.

I know there is a sweet DIY by AK on the stillen intakes, but I don't really have experience with installing mods. It would be my first mod and I would need to remove me front bumper, cut into the vents, install the intakes, and put the bumper back on. Seems complicated, especially for someone who has never done anything remotely close to this.

I really want the stillen intakes so I went to a shop here and the guy was really cool and is gonna install by berk exhaust for me and quoted me a pretty good price for the installation of my exhaust. I asked how much it would be for a set up like the stillen intakes he said it would be about $175 max. Now idk if I should just do it myself, a 21 yr old who has never done this before with no wrench time, or pay $175 for it to be done professionally. Idk any input guys? Recommendations?

Thanks!

Have your buddy help you and save the money.

Buncha bolts under the car, plastic clips inside the engine bay, two big sheetmetal screws in the fenders and you can pull the bumper right off.

Get help from a friend if you're skeered, don't let this super simple (you can have it off in less than 15 minutes the first time you try it) job scare you off.