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yep, even if it nets zero whp if the sound is good i think it's worth having. just not acceptable to be loosing hp.
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Got the numbers today. Keep in mind it was done at 95+ deg temp here in socal(CORONA) on a mustang dyno
hp = 8.57 tq = 9.18 I'm still waiting on the dyno sheet:tup: First car tested had 1000 miles on it and was done during spring time, about 70deg. Our car has 3000 miles and it was hot yesterday |
How is the response? Do these offer any benefit to the overall characteristic of the response/low/mid/top end? Also, is there a different model number associated with these intakes? Sorry if the questions have already been answered...
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pretty acceptable numbers...as long as it sounds nice and is a decent gain above stock, i'm sure most people will be happy with intakes
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note to self...order mines air ducts with out ole lady noticing two holes in the bumper... |
good to hear there were gains...even at 95F lol :)
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Lou, what did they end up changing on the intake version 2.0 to get the increase in power?
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Any idea if the heat shields will be available as an add on to the existing intakes or will it require a redesign of the intakes? Just want to know if I can go ahead and install mine :-)
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My butt dyno felt these intakes were putting down more power, nice to see that the dyno agrees with my butt.:tup:
You will really notice these intakes open up past 45mph when air starts to flow well in the engine bay. I agree some nice heat shields would help even more, ducts will work too but I am not cutting holes in my Z. I also think once I get the Berks High Flow cats the car will really start putting down some more noticeable gains. Results should get a lot better when the car can breath in and get the exhaust to flow out better. |
I finally got a copy of the dyno sheet today. Sorry for the delay, The project manager is out till the 30th so i'm not sure if when the heatshields will be ready for the Z. I'm sure it will be after SEMA
hopefully you guys can read it since the color they used were so light http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/u...n10-6-09-1.jpg |
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A few things, I just noticed they did the dyno run in 3rd gear.
Other thoughts I have been going over, suggestions for better intakes: ~Longer pipes to get closer to the pre-made holes ~Solid box ~Filter design, I just noticed the top of the filter is sealed only allowing air from around them. With a solid box this might be fine, but maybe a different filter allowing direct air from the pre-made holes to come into. Just putting up some ideas if Takeda wants some input, also any updates from Takeda on what they are working on. Changes, modifications, new design? |
I think they at least need to add heatshields. I installed a scangauge last Friday and notice that I'm running IAT of about 25 degrees over ambient with the Takedas. Note that this is when going over 45 mph. In traffic IAT are at over 100. (at an
ambient temp of about 50). So I'll try the Modshack fang intake mod and if that doesn't work I'll replace the Takedas with Stillen G3s. (I feel I should have done this in the first place, but that's what I get for being cheap) |
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IMHO, those IAT's is what makes the big difference in Dreamers
dyno (hood closed) and Takedas dyno (hood open) |
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the relatively high IATs indeed negatively affect these values (running rich and retard timing) |
Sounds good, thanks for looking into this. My dyno results showed my AF was lower than stock which the guy at the shop I was getting my dyno done said resulted in the lower HP.
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Yes, I was in the 10-11s AF, where stock was closer to 11-12.
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Any idea of whether Takeda is producing Heat Shields for these now?
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Unless they are full enclosures like the factory boxes heat shields will not matter.
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no, takeda refuses to believe their product is designed porely (no heat shields) :shakes head:
:rolleyes: of course you can get good gains with the hood open and a giant fan blowing fresh air directly into the engine bay Takeda!, this is how Takeda tested these on a dyno. real world with the hood closed and the fact that the engine bay is very well sealed off from the top and front bottom half. thus no air movement other than the small holes that the stock air filter boxes hooked up to...i.e. not enough air flow. bottom line is, all these are good for is raising the sound bar up a notch...my ecm had a hellova time adjusting to these crappers in the mid texas heat of the summer too... ill be replacing these pos's with ingens soon... new thread will be started for that install :tup: |
Why bother even posting out of focus pictures?
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kdo, buy my injens.
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I was just asking a very simple question. Don't get all wound up over it. |
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Do you know the size of the filter that the takeda's use? size, as in the diameter base that connects to the intake pipe...
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hmmm...i dont, sorry im out of town atm...maybe someone with them can chime in...
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The AFE Pro Dry S filter that comes on the Takeda Intake has a 3.5" neck diameter, 5" height, 4" top diameter and 6" base diameter.
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ˆYOU are the MAN!!! I posted that question on at least 6 threads looking for that answer! Thank you soooo much bro! and for figuring out all the dimensions!!!
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