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kannibul 07-10-2009 12:04 PM

I betting there's not a chance we can see some dyno runs with a Stillen G3 intake, FI HFC, and catback, is there? ;)

That said, I wonder...can my automatic tranny handle it? I don't plan on doing balls-to-the-walls driving it, but, I do loves me some power-to-ground!

semtex 07-10-2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 111342)
I betting there's not a chance we can see some dyno runs with a Stillen G3 intake, FI HFC, and catback, is there? ;)

That said, I wonder...can my automatic tranny handle it? I don't plan on doing balls-to-the-walls driving it, but, I do loves me some power-to-ground!

Sure there is. When someone with that setup steps up and does a dyno and posts it. And are you asking if your automatic tranny can handle a gain of 20whp? The answer is yes. I mean c'mon. Seriously. ;)

Caravanshaka 07-10-2009 12:07 PM

So, any conditions changes between the runs? I know you started a little late, meaning the baseline was done when it was still hot out, while the others were done with most likely a 10 degree ambient temp decrease from baseline. any other differences between the runs? hood positioning? fans? fuel?

Just want to rule out all the stuff that people are going to come back with :)

looks like the power increase is noticed throughout the entire rpm range, very happy to see that! :tup:

GMZ 07-10-2009 12:14 PM

Im going with this. Sound and looks edged out Stillen, now the gains do to.

drisko 07-10-2009 12:15 PM

I also like that it makes consistent power throughout the RPM range. Very nice...

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 111346)
So, any conditions changes between the runs? I know you started a little late, meaning the baseline was done when it was still hot out, while the others were done with most likely a 10 degree ambient temp decrease from baseline. any other differences between the runs? hood positioning? fans? fuel?

Just want to rule out all the stuff that people are going to come back with :)

looks like the power increase is noticed throughout the entire rpm range, very happy to see that! :tup:


It might of cooled off a bit because it was getting later however, it was still hot and muggy outside by the time we left. The timeframe between the stock runs and just the cat back were about 30-45 minutes. The reonated test pipe runs came about an hour after that and the HFC runs were about 30 minutes after that.

The fans were in the exact same spot on every run and the hood was positioned the same every time.

Caravanshaka 07-10-2009 12:19 PM

Just what I wanted to hear! Thanks Tony

don't talk about hot and muggy til you come down to texas :inoutroflpuke:

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 111359)
It might of cooled off a bit because it was getting later however, it was still hot and muggy outside by the time we left. The timeframe between the stock runs and just the cat back were about 30-45 minutes. The reonated test pipe runs came about an hour after that and the HFC runs were about 30 minutes after that.

The fans were in the exact same spot on every run and the hood was positioned the same every time.


Shift 07-10-2009 12:24 PM

Are your HFC availible and if so How much

280z/300zx 07-10-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 111359)
It might of cooled off a bit because it was getting later however, it was still hot and muggy outside by the time we left. The timeframe between the stock runs and just the cat back were about 30-45 minutes. The reonated test pipe runs came about an hour after that and the HFC runs were about 30 minutes after that.

The fans were in the exact same spot on every run and the hood was positioned the same every time.

Wait, you did 4 runs? stock, cat back, cat back and test pipes, and cat back and HFC? I only see a dyno for 3 runs. Where is the chart for the HFC? Just curious to see the difference between test pipes and HFC. Thanks for the data. I'll be saving up for this exhuast for sure.

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 111370)
Wait, you did 4 runs? stock, cat back, cat back and test pipes, and cat back and HFC? I only see a dyno for 3 runs. Where is the chart for the HFC? Just curious to see the difference between test pipes and HFC. Thanks for the data. I'll be saving up for this exhuast for sure.

Where did you see 4 runs?

We only did three!

wstar 07-10-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 111386)
Where did you see 4 runs?

We only did three!

He's counting the baseline. The 3 graphs posted are all graphed against the baseline run, which is the fourth one he's looking for. It's in all of the other 3 :)

LiquidZ 07-10-2009 12:44 PM

Hood open or closed on the dyno?

kannibul 07-10-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 111360)
Just what I wanted to hear! Thanks Tony

don't talk about hot and muggy til you come down to texas :inoutroflpuke:

You guys need to keep that hot muggy crap down there....

I guess Kansas sucks too much though ;)

:happydance:

Caravanshaka 07-10-2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 111394)
You guys need to keep that hot muggy crap down there....

I guess Kansas sucks too much though ;)

:happydance:

lol, by Kansas you mean Oklahoma? :stirthepot:

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 111392)
Hood open or closed on the dyno?

Open, of course with a fan blowing on if from about 6-8 feet away.

kannibul 07-10-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 111409)
lol, by Kansas you mean Oklahoma? :stirthepot:

Nah, the wind doesn't stop here ;)

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 01:25 PM

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semtex 07-10-2009 01:55 PM

Fitment question
 
Tony,

I have a fitment question for you. I currently already have a full exhaust setup with Stillen headers, Berk HFCs, and the Stillen CBE. Now, I did the headers last, and when I installed the headers, they changed the geometry ever so slightly, resulting in an alignment issue between the cats and the CBE. This picture shows what I mean:

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...5-p1000865.jpg

If I jump ship and swap out my Stillen CBE for yours, do you anticipate I'll have to deal with the same issue? Or does your CBE have a lot of 'wiggle-room' in terms of adjustment? Because uh, Stillen's CBE doesn't. I was able to get Stillen's CBE to connect and my current setup works just fine, but it was a pain getting it to fit right. I don't want to go through that again, if you know what I mean.

Caravanshaka 07-10-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 111446)
If I jump ship and swap out my Stillen CBE for yours, do you anticipate I'll have to deal with the same issue? Or does your CBE have a lot of 'wiggle-room' in terms of adjustment? Because uh, Stillen's CBE doesn't. I was able to get Stillen's CBE to connect and my current setup works just fine, but it was a pain getting it to fit right. I don't want to go through that again, if you know what I mean.

Sounds like it is a Stillen header fitment issue, not cat or exhaust. I would suspect any cat-back you get will run into that same issue unless you swap out the headers.

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 02:05 PM

If the headers are not designed to end in the exact factory location then it will throw everything else off. We will assume that your cats are built to factory specs. as well as your cat back starts in factory location. Then process of elimination tells us that it is your headers.

Now, my system has very little wiggle room. It is designed to fit in factory location. If the parts in front of it are not to factory specs. like I said, it will throw it off like your current situation.

This is what I was getting at about flex joints. Say you had flex joints in your current cat back, then you could fudge it and make it fit. All it is going to do is leave your exhaust in a bind and you are going to eventually blow out that flex joint.

wstar 07-10-2009 02:11 PM

I'm not sure exactly what part causes that alignment issue TBH. But the Stillen headers do seem to end in the right spot, I think we compared this in another thread, re: two cars with the Berk HFCs and Stillen CBE, but one had headers and one didn't.

semtex 07-10-2009 02:13 PM

Yep, I agree that it's the headers. So the rest of you -- be forewarned about the fitment of Stillen's headers! To make things line up correctly, I had to put hose clamps around the rubber hangers and compress them to raise the rear of the exhaust up. It sounds like I'd have to do the same with your exhaust. (You have a PM from me for pricing, btw.)

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...3-p1000875.jpg

semtex 07-10-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 111456)
I'm not sure exactly what part causes that alignment issue TBH. But the Stillen headers do seem to end in the right spot, I think we compared this in another thread, re: two cars with the Berk HFCs and Stillen CBE, but one had headers and one didn't.

Well, I did the headers last. And everything lined up perfectly until the headers went in. So take from that what you will. We're talking about a variance of an inch or so, so the Stillen headers not ending in the right spot wouldn't be obvious to the naked eye. Until you try to bolt up the CBE, that is. :rolleyes:

wstar 07-10-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 111459)
Well, I did the headers last. And everything lined up perfectly until the headers went in. So take from that what you will. We're talking about a variance of an inch or so, so the Stillen headers not ending in the right spot wouldn't be obvious to the naked eye. Until you try to bolt up the CBE, that is. :rolleyes:

Yeah that does seem to point at the headers then. FWIW I had the headers and cats installed with the stock CBE at first and nothing was out of whack there though. Then again the stock CBE has those flex joints to help out.

With a 3-vendor setup (Stillen Headers, Berk HFC, FI CBE) it will be interesting :)

280z/300zx 07-10-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 111386)
Where did you see 4 runs?

We only did three!

I know you only did 3 runs but you mentioned 4. Here is an excerpt again from your post

"HFC runs were about 30 minutes after that."

Yet you didn't post a graph with a dyno test for HFC. Just wondering if you did a run for HFC or only for the test pipes.

Caravanshaka 07-10-2009 05:11 PM

that was already addressed. 4 runs were made, 1 was a baseline so you won't see that dyno by itself, only the other 3 pulls and the variance between them and the 1st baseline dyno.

F.I. Inc. 07-10-2009 07:35 PM

I will be officially launching the sale tonight.

Don't stray far from the vendor classifieds section...

Tony

LiquidZ 07-10-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 111651)
I will be officially launching the sale tonight.

Don't stray far from the vendor classifieds section...

Tony

I think you are going to be a very happy man tonight :tup:

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F.I. Inc. 07-11-2009 12:25 AM

All PM's replied.

I will launch the sale thread sometime this weekend. I am exhausted and do not have the energy to do it tonight. It has been a very long week and thanks to all of you, it has paid off...

Thank you all, Tony

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GMZ 07-11-2009 11:06 AM

Now comes the hard part, playing the waiting game :)

Edit: IYAOYAS!

Diversion 07-11-2009 11:22 AM

Awesome results, amazing sound.. Would like to hear the exhaust + testpipes/HFCs to see how much the sound changes soon!

tranceformer 07-11-2009 08:36 PM

I had the Intimidator exhaust for my 350z before, loved it. This one's got me excited too, can't wait to hear one in person.

Just curious why all the 350z/G35/G37 exhausts have the Magnaflow resonated x-pipe and this one does not?

dainedazz 07-11-2009 08:46 PM

wow, this exhaust seems promising. PLEASE PM PRICE :)

CrownR426 07-11-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dainedazz (Post 112220)
wow, this exhaust seems promising. PLEASE PM PRICE :)

What did I tell you Daine?! :tup:

Brazilbro 07-12-2009 12:43 AM

damn PM me a price on theses bad boys!

crbn_fbr 07-12-2009 01:40 AM

Glad I got in early on this! :) The numbers are better than I hoped for, can't wait to get it!

F.I. Inc. 07-12-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 111985)
Now comes the hard part, playing the waiting game :)

Edit: IYAOYAS!

That's right:

I.Y.A.O.Y.A.S.

B1nks 07-12-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 112413)
That's right:

I.Y.A.O.Y.A.S.

What exactly does all that mean ? IYAOYAS ?


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