Ebay Y pipe reviewed and dyno'd

MaDMaXX

This is always going to be a gain over the stock pipe, but you should note that it's tuned Vs re-tuned, and not just tuned Vs tuned

The merge point is why you lost a little power in the range, there is actually an optimum point at which the pipes should merge to optimize both figures. Hence the MD XYZ pipe merging earlier.

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Vbp6US

But even comparing to the tuned numbers (the first 2 pulls), those numbers are very impressive.

Why are there no links on google for MD XYZ? Are they a sponsor?

MaDMaXX

They're should be links everywhere, try searching Motordyne XYZ, I believe they are a sponsor.

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'10Anamoly

Is it me or does this dyno plot look different than a VHR dyno plot. So many dips and valleys and a weird torque curve. Also putting down 322hp SAE with just headers and a y-pipe does not seem realistic at all either. Do you have a video of your runs with these numbers or a dyno plot chart with RPM listed?

Also, why does it show Runfile 31+ if you did 3 before and 3 after runs... Did they do over 28 other dyno pulls in three hours?

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ChipsWithDips

Yes, you're right, getting 8hp from an exhaust modification is absurdly impossble, it's all a big conspiracy. You can't make more than 300WHP on a VHR, all dynos are fake, all modifincations actually lose power, etc. etc.

Huckleberry

would you see an issue with running this with AAM's short tails?

Not all that interested in replacing the entire CBE. More into the weight reduction/looks/sounds.

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'10Anamoly

Never said the 8hp was suspicious, just the 40+ rwhp over a stock 370Z (~275-280rwhp SAE) on a dynojet with two exhaust mods and the restrictive can muffler. That and the unusual torque curve compared to typical VHR dynos (and your attitude..) lol

So what was your OEM dyno in SAE?

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MaDMaXX

Actual dyno figures will vary massively, only delta matters, on top of that, this *is* tuned as well. I've seen quite a few people get this kind of power from tunes and basic mods.

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'10Anamoly

Just curious about the OEM dyno overlay vs these mods is all, does he have that?

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370Z Purist

Seeing as they're completely different sections, probably not. If anything, this might result in some rasp, purely due to the resonance of a larger diameter of piping. I haven't seen anyone yet combine the short tails and any other mod other than TPs, which can be very raspy at normal cruising power.

I am also looking into doing test pipes along with the expanded y-pipe, but I'm extremely worried about the sound. The short tails can get annoying if I'm floating around 3k for whatever reason. It should produce pretty good gains though, since replacing the cats and changing the Y pipe pretty much converts the entire thing to straight piping. Headers would be the next step, although at that point, the sound would probably just end up being terrible in every way: loud, raspy, and with lots of drone. Sell everything off and get a CBE at that point, just for your own sanity.

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Jordo!

Impressive gains -- what did it put down stock before the PPE headers?

If we assume ~275-280, the PPE headers made a huge gain over test pipes alone. Nearly double.

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corbin09

Your car will be INSANELY loud with a 3 inch single pipe coming out of that. I had one on my car and it rattled everything.

ChipsWithDips

Stock I made 292WHP SAE in ~70F weather. Keep in mind manual transmission makes ~10hp more than AT to the wheels. Also I have non-sport package, so my brakes, wheels and tires are all smaller and lighter, ironically giving it more power to the wheels than sport.

What about the torque curve do you think is strange that it doesn't match other VHRs?

My attitude is that no matter how many dyno charts and information you provide, someone on the internet is gonna argue that "something smells fishy", "i call BS", "it's fake" or that I somehow have the only 3270Z that didn't come with a VHR engine or whatever the hell you are saying and it gets old.

My header thread here has stock vs header+tune dynos, but they were done months apart so the temp difference was about 20degrees. That's all the data I got and something people will just have to deal with.

I've seen now that the ambient air temperature does make a big difference on these cars. SAE and STD correction factors are designed to account for that difference, but the engine power output fluctuates beyond what those equations account for. Looking back, if the header before/after dynos had been done on the same day, the graphs would probably show a lot less gains. Still even if the gains were only say 20HP instead of 32HP, I would be perfectly happy with that.

The "before y-pipe" dyno from this thread was the same mod configuration as my "after headers" dyno in the other thread but the days/temps were different(80-85F for y-pipe runs vs 70F for after header run) so it was already about 9HP lower from that.

I originally posted STD corrected charts in the first post of the header thread. But since everyone cried foul I posted SAE version here: First mod: PPE Headers... +35WHP

ChipsWithDips

I have custom single 3" exhaust now that I meant to make a thread about, but I never got around to it.

I went two magnaflow mufflers inline:
Magnaflow #11219 4x9 oval, 3in/3out, 14" length, 20" overall
Magnaflow #12619 6" round, 3in/3out, 14" length, 20" overall

A big oval magnaflow right after the y pipe and then a round can on the back. It's loud but not unbearable. I actually find it surprisingly quiet given what it is, a straight through exhaust with no cats. I didn't get before/after dynos for the exhaust.

Jordo!

There's actually no evidence to support that... I can show you numerous drf's where they make the same power on this car, presumably due to the locking trans.

What was the actual cf? The mild weather definitely helped a bit too.

Anyway, regardless, the PPE's netted you a solid 20+ whp (or ~7-8%) , which is substantially better than test pipes alone (and that was all that I was trying to determine... )

EDIT: Okay, that CF was pretty high... SAE you would have been in the expected ball park. Either way -- really great gains with the PPE headers -- congrats!

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