+ 370z Muffler Delete +

NewlyIMPORTed · 04-15-2010, 12:12 PM

i think it sounded good from the outside but the drone inside was enough for me to put it back on within 24 hours of removing i just saved up a bit and bought a real exhaust

Zsteve · 04-15-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I see this mod as nothing more than wanting a more pleasing sound without spending $1500. It doesn't mean the people doing want to make their car sound more powerful than it is. They just want a better sound.

thats why I would do some pipes with resonators for a couple hundred max.

semtex · 04-15-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I see this mod as nothing more than wanting a more pleasing sound without spending $1500. It doesn't mean the people doing want to make their car sound more powerful than it is. They just want a better sound.

Yeah, could be. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I have to confess that I often forget how important aesthetics are to some people, and sound is indeed an important aesthetic element.

CBRich · 04-15-2010, 03:54 PM

Yep, everyone wants something different. I tried this out just to see what it was like and it wasn't bad at all. Now that I've installed resonated test pipes I'm pretty sure my muffler needs to stay on.

ddahron · 04-15-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Not sure you want to keep the car that way. You'll have hot exhaust gases swirling around under the car. They can melt wires, discolor the underbody components and potentially get exhaust fumes inside the vehicle. You can always get some fab'ed tips like I did before doing a formal exhaust. (search for muffler delete and you'll see my threads)

Ive been driving around with this mod for over 2 months and there is no discoloration, fumes in the cabin, etc. During cold mornings, I can still see fumes bypassing the gap and entering/exiting the muffler. I got the idea from my brother who has been driving his wrx with this mod for years and no problems whatsoever. But if you want to be on the safe side, fabricate some pipes.

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Originally Posted by Csquared

How's that working out for you? Wouldn't it sound different from if you completely removed it?

Ive only tested the car for about 20mins with a full muffler delete before i did this mod, so its kinda hard to recollect my experience, but I am pretty sure this mod toned it down a bit.

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Originally Posted by jtown82

im not sure im following what your saying. how would a few washers replace the gap of the muffler delete ?

As you can see in the picture, the gasket is replaced with a few washers, therefore leaving a gap.

jtown82 · 04-15-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ddahron

As you can see in the picture, the gasket is replaced with a few washers, therefore leaving a gap.

i guess im missing what you did to your exhaust. did you reattach your muffler back just without the gaskets? or did you have to remove the gaskets because your aftermarket pipes in place of the muffler? sorry i feel dumb atm since your picture only shows the washer area and i cant see what you actually had changed to your exhaust other than removing the gaskets

ddahron · 04-15-2010, 08:26 PM

^Yup, youre exactly right. All I did was reattach the stock muffler without the gaskets. But in place of the gaskets are a few washers on each bolt (4 on each bolt = 16 washers total).

CBRich · 04-15-2010, 08:28 PM

He seperated the muffler section and then gapped it out with washers. So it's pretty much disconnected but still hanging back there.

Zsteve · 04-15-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

He seperated the muffler section and then gapped it out with washers. So it's pretty much disconnected but still hanging back there.

I would say most of the exhaust fumes are still going thru the exhuast and mufflers, the gap is just letting the sound out more than anything and I think that is the purpose of it.

jtown82 · 04-15-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

He seperated the muffler section and then gapped it out with washers. So it's pretty much disconnected but still hanging back there.

oh ok ahaha i was really lost for a while. so just that little gap changed the sound?

ddahron · 04-15-2010, 08:31 PM

^Yup, its basically a toned down version of a full muffler delete

jtown82 · 04-15-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

No, I'd call you a poser. But it's the same basic concept as a ricer. This mod is all show, no go, that's what's wrong with it. It's about making your car sound more powerful without actually being more powerful. I could be wrong, but nobody has done a before/after dyno to test for gains. But that's no surprise, because posers don't care about real gains, right? So why would a poser go through the trouble of doing dyno testing? Anyway, like I said, I'm just expressing my personal opinion. We can agree to disagree. If this "mod" floats your boat, more power to you. Maybe for your next mod, you can fake having a six-pack like this guy:

semtex your mentality is actually the pure definition of ricer.

Zsteve · 04-15-2010, 09:12 PM

Yea Semtex, I looked up ricer in the rice ionary and it came up with Semtex, and Zsteve. I guess buying useful parts and not destroying good parts is rice. LOL. But hey Im really a firm beleiver, that you do what you want to your car but and not worry about what others think as long as you are doing it cuz you want to and not cuz its what others do, so to each their own.

jtown82 · 04-15-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Yea Semtex, I looked up ricer in the rice ionary and it came up with Semtex, and Zsteve. I guess buying useful parts and not destroying good parts is rice. LOL. But hey Im really a firm beleiver, that you do what you want to your car but and not worry about what others think as long as you are doing it cuz you want to and not cuz its what others do, so to each their own.

it usually is ricer mentality to pay for things because they dont have the ingenuity to come up with modifications themselves so its understandable.

on a side note. the washer method works well. tried it. and its a very good blend of sound. It sounds almost stock under normal driving and only around 60+ can you really hear the exhaust over the wind/road noise. but under heavy acceleration it sounds really nice and very clean.

semtex · 04-16-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown82

it usually is ricer mentality to pay for things because they dont have the ingenuity to come up with modifications themselves so its understandable.

Yeah, paying for parts that are actually engineered and tested by professionals is rice. Hey, why even buy a car? I mean, let's be consistent here. Following your line of reasoning, you should have the ingenuity to come up with, and build, your own car. I mean, buying a pre-made car that someone else designed? Dude that's so rice!

04-15-2010, 12:12 PM	#91 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 17	i think it sounded good from the outside but the drone inside was enough for me to put it back on within 24 hours of removing i just saved up a bit and bought a real exhaust __________________ 2011 WRX STICobb Accessport, Nameless Performance exhaust, COBB SF Intake, COBB downpipe, 20% tint, Work Emotion XD9's

04-15-2010, 08:26 PM	#97 (permalink)
ddahron Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: norcal Posts: 35 Drives: 09 370z PW Rep Power: 15	^Yup, youre exactly right. All I did was reattach the stock muffler without the gaskets. But in place of the gaskets are a few washers on each bolt (4 on each bolt = 16 washers total). Last edited by ddahron; 04-15-2010 at 08:28 PM.

04-15-2010, 09:12 PM	#103 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	Yea Semtex, I looked up ricer in the rice ionary and it came up with Semtex, and Zsteve. I guess buying useful parts and not destroying good parts is rice. LOL. But hey Im really a firm beleiver, that you do what you want to your car but and not worry about what others think as long as you are doing it cuz you want to and not cuz its what others do, so to each their own. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Yep, everyone wants something different. I tried this out just to see what it was like and it wasn't bad at all. Now that I've installed resonated test pipes I'm pretty sure my muffler needs to stay on.

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