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Boost_lee 03-05-2012 04:24 AM

Review: MotorDyne Shockwave))) E370 Exhaust
 
I decided to jump the gun on the Motordyne E370 as soon as I saw its release. I have had very good experiences with Tony and Motordyne in the past, so I felt that his exhaust would be up to the same quality as his other products.

Vehicle: This exhaust is being installed on my 09 Z. The current mods on the car include a Fast Intentions TDX exhaust (18” resonators), Motordyne ART pipes (V1), Motordyne M370 intake manifold, HPS post MAF tubes, K&N drop in filters, and a COBB reflash. The tune is just a shelf/canned map from a 2010 NISMO 370Z.

Personal Impressions

Shipping process: The shipping process was great. I made payment for the product on Friday afternoon, a tracking number was provided Monday, and it arrived to by door step on Thursday. The packaging was great, everything was well wrapped, instructions are included, and the box weighed in at 70lbs. Tony even included a few extras for the install, which might be for the introductory release purchase (this is exhaust #12 on the E370 list). I received a hat, microfiber polishing cloth, Motordyne Beat Your Ticket book, and a few decals.

Quality: If you have seen the pictures of the exhaust on their website, you know that this is a great looking exhaust. The welds look great, and the entire exhaust shines beautifully. I like the fact that the exhaust uses Vband connections as they give you some room for adjustment and there is no longer a need for replacing gaskets later down the line or if you sell the unit to another owner. Gaskets and bolts/nuts for the XYZ pipe are included where they bolt up to the cats/HFCs/Test Pipes.

Weight: Compared to the Fast Intentions TDX with 18” resonators, the Motordyne E370 weighed in at about 5 lbs heavier. (57 vs 52) This difference is not a concern to me and should be the same, or lighter than the factory exhaust.

Fitment: Everything lined up fine during the install. The clearances between the car and the exhaust are pretty tight, compared to the previous exhaust on the car. I made a few adjustments to the unit tonight as I have developed a slight rattle when the car is idling. The adjustable tip feature is nice and gives you the ability to achieve the look you want. The E370 includes 2 sets of tips, and the option to get the 5” titanium (T370 exhausts only include 1 set of tips and are limited to 4.5”). I opted for the 5” burnt titanium (rolled) and the 4.5” stainless steel (non-rolled) tips.

Ground clearance: The area where most Z owners have issues is at the rear of the exhaust under the differential. The E370 does have better clearance than my Fast Intensions exhaust did near the diff cover. Please note that the FI exhaust I had was one of their first units/versions. Since then, I believe FI has made a few changes to the exhaust allowing for more clearance, but I cannot comment on that revision. Even with the FI unit, I had only bottomed out the rear mufflers once or twice on a speed bump. My car is lowered on Swift springs and the ground clearance is fine with the E370. The lowest point appears to be the rear Vband clamps, but they are lined up with the rear tires so they should not scrape unless going over a large bump at high speed or a raise section in the road. Even if that's the case, I'd have issues with my lip and side blades coming off as well. One thing I'm disappointed with is that I cannot use my large floor jack on the rear differential. This was the same case with the Fast Intentions also. Maybe I need a smaller jack?

Sound: INTOXICATING - That is the best way I can describe this unit. I was never really “sold” on the stock VQ37VHR exhaust note, and I’ve always thought that the VQ35 sounded better. This exhaust really changes that exhaust note and makes it sound more like a VQ should. The tone is aggressive and has a nice growl to it. When rolling on the throttle the car sounds so good, it’s hard to stay off the gas pedal. At cold start, the car is a bit loud, but during warm idle it is very quiet. During light cruising, even with the ART pipes, the car is tame and quiet. Partial throttle and semi aggressive driving the car is louder, but not overbearing. I no longer get the VQ hiss that was very present on the ART pipe/FI exhaust combo. At WOT the car screams and sounds beautiful. On the highway, there is less drone than my FI had. I used to love my previous exhaust note - The Fast Intentions unit has a very deep stock exhaust note and throaty at WOT with the ART pipes installed, but I am OVERLY pleased with the aggressive growl/bite that this exhaust creates.

Power: The butt-dyno feels a little better, but it’s probably the sound that is skewing my readings. I will need to revisit this section after the car is put back on the dyno. In all honesty, I’m not expecting much of a difference in power between the 2 units because I have minimal bolt-ons on an NA car.

Appearance: At first I was not a fan of burnt titanium tips, but after seeing them in person it changed my mind. The colors on the tips are beautiful; a very rich, deep blue that fades to purple then bronze. The 5” tips are large, but I like them. I think they fit well with my rear spats and blacked out valance, but they may appear too large on a stock rear bumper alone. As stated, the tips can be adjusted to your liking and of course with 2 sets, you can change it up however often you’d like. Mine are out about an 3/4" or so; I can’t help but show off the color on these tips. Without mufflers on the rear section, the car looks different than it did before. The Fast Intentions exhaust is probably more visibly noticeable, but I feel that the E370 is more audibly noticeable. I also like the way that you can see dual 3" piping in the rear.

Overall, I am very happy with my purchase of the E370. This is exactly the sound I wanted coming out of my Z. Again, all exhausts are subjective to the owner’s taste. The price is a little higher than other exhausts, but certainly not the most expensive. I’ve heard a few exhaust setups in person, but in my opinion, none of them sound like the E70. It’s also good to know that this exhaust will provide optimal support engine power up to 650hp, so I won’t be required to change it in the future.


Pics
The box unpacked
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1010.jpg

XYZ pipe merge collector
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1020.jpg

5" rolled vs. 4.5" straight
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1029.jpg

Hardware
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1034.jpg

Muffler Merge
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1040.jpg

No exhaust (drove to the shop open test pipes :eekdance:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1043.jpg

Full install
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1060.jpg

ART pipes to muffler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1056.jpg

XYZ pipe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1053.jpg

Muffler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1052.jpg

Mid Pipes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1051.jpg

Rear pipes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1050.jpg

Tail pipes and resonators
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1049.jpg

Stainless 4.5" tip (non-rolled)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1117.jpg

5" Titanium
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1122.jpg

Tip comparisons
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1124.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1126.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1128.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1130.jpg

Titanium set
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1163.jpg

With the good ole' Genesis in the back
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1154.jpg

Boost_lee 03-05-2012 04:26 AM

Comparison pic:
Fast intentions
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/...a05be46d_b.jpg

Motordyne Shockwave))) E70 Titanium 5" Tips
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1172.jpg

Sound Clips:
Normal driving Windows Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVhDLGQ255U

Hwy 6th gr Windows up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CBB6pIZiVI

3rd-4th WOT Windows Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CdiJopKg5o

Rear mounted Camera - Spirited Driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGAbRCgmwY

Added:

Cold Start - 1-2 pull (flame shot at 4:49 :p ) - Spirited driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R92CDmote8

3rd gear - SRM downshifting - Zero hiss on decel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRmgbJIq3Qs

Normal driving - No Hiss!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Avy2whj2w

Edit: Dyno pull vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0od6XlWyc

Edit:flyby followed by a spirited drive-by.
Ends with a few revs. (2K, 3K, 4K, 5.5K, redline)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9NYZ-Wg40M

Staples 03-05-2012 05:05 AM

Damn good review! In terms of loudness, how does this compare to the Fast Intentions you had? I had the FI exhaust with the 12" resonators. Trying to figure out if this is a lot louder then that or not.

issey.miyake 03-05-2012 05:06 AM

simply awsome..

i cant wait to get mine on

although i gotta email Tony - mine didnt come with instructions lol

Jamaica 03-05-2012 05:16 AM

What a write up

mantella87 03-05-2012 05:22 AM

Excellent review!

sfearl1 03-05-2012 07:55 AM

Great review. Repped. And I'm glad you have realistic expectations for an exhaust on an NA car.

kielbasa16 03-05-2012 10:07 AM

Also interested in some additional comparisons to the FI in terms of sound (I have the 18'' resonators). You said its a bit loud on cold start, how does it compare to your FI cold start? At normal cruising speeds, how loud is it inside the car, and how is the drone at highway speeds compared to FI? I would love to eliminate the hiss my exhaust produces and your write-up has me thinking of a change. Repped for the great review.

m4a1mustang 03-05-2012 10:11 AM

:tup:

ZMan8 03-05-2012 10:16 AM

Nice review!

quagmire87 03-05-2012 11:32 AM

Very nice! I love those tips! I do find myself speeding more just to hear the exhaust lol

Paskii 03-05-2012 12:50 PM

Great review! If you have a chance post up the drive by vids!

TeamARK 03-05-2012 02:30 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1154.jpg
That genesis is rocking our GRIP Tecno tip exhaust

Urbanracer 03-05-2012 04:03 PM

Great Review, repped. :tup:

KB2 03-05-2012 04:56 PM

as mentioned above,awsome review! especially with the tip comparisons and clearence comparison pics. awsome exhaust for sure

MaDMaXX 03-05-2012 08:26 PM

Nice, is that a gopro camera with a case on it doing the recording? I need to alter in my head what it sounds like without what sounds like the casing changing the sound.

I can make out how awesome it sounds though, that's got some sweet notes going on there :)

Boost_lee 03-06-2012 01:08 AM

Thanks for the reps and positive comments. I like reading other reviews so I feel that its only fair I do my part :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1581879)
Damn good review! In terms of loudness, how does this compare to the Fast Intentions you had? I had the FI exhaust with the 12" resonators. Trying to figure out if this is a lot louder then that or not.

During normal driving, I'd say it is quieter. During WOT, its louder. I did have the 18" resonators though. Its probably somewhere between the FI 12" resonators and no-resonators.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielbasa16 (Post 1582120)
Also interested in some additional comparisons to the FI in terms of sound (I have the 18'' resonators). You said its a bit loud on cold start, how does it compare to your FI cold start? At normal cruising speeds, how loud is it inside the car, and how is the drone at highway speeds compared to FI? I would love to eliminate the hiss my exhaust produces and your write-up has me thinking of a change. Repped for the great review.

The FI-18" on ART pipes was loud on cold start too in my opinion. The E370 is just a bit tad louder for that 1 minute or so until the idle drops. As far as drone, I feel that the E370 has less drone. I used to be able to hear the hissing from in the car, I don't hear that sound yet :D If that changes I'll let you know, but so far I'm hiss-free

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1582428)
Great review! If you have a chance post up the drive by vids!

Thanks, will do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamARK (Post 1582678)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/IMG_1154.jpg
That genesis is rocking our GRIP Tecno tip exhaust

Yes he is. If you frequent the gencoupe forum, he's "Zero"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1583309)
Nice, is that a gopro camera with a case on it doing the recording? I need to alter in my head what it sounds like without what sounds like the casing changing the sound.

I can make out how awesome it sounds though, that's got some sweet notes going on there :)

Yes it is the GoPro in the open back casing.

For comparison, here is a video of my FI 18" on stock cats, and FI 18" with ART pipes mounted on the same spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li-4Ru-eQRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmsU7IQdarM

Both videos have 2nd gear WOT pulls, so I'll try to get a 2nd gear pull with the E370 tomorrow evening :)

Staples 03-06-2012 01:57 AM

Thanks for answering all our questions. Can't wait to see the 2nd gear pulls! :tup:

chuckd05 03-06-2012 01:58 PM

Wow looks great. Motordyne is top notch in the vq world.

I'd seriously consider that exhaust if I still had the Z!

Boost_lee 03-07-2012 12:00 AM

uploading and editing some additional vids now

Staples 03-07-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 1585446)
uploading and editing some additional vids now

:tup: :tup:

Boost_lee 03-07-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1585449)
:tup: :tup:

Haha, even caught a flame on my 1-2 shift :driving:

Staples 03-07-2012 12:17 AM

That's awesome... I remember my friends telling me I was shooting flames when I got on it in-front of them. That was before the car was tuned and I was running a little on the rich side.

NeverBoneStck 03-07-2012 01:07 AM

Nice review ....

Boost_lee 03-07-2012 01:18 AM

Few videos from the rear again on the GoPro. Not much to watch, but worth listening :) I'll also add these to the second post in the thread

Cold Start - 1-2 pull (flame shot at 4:49 :p)- Spirited driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R92CDmote8

3rd gear - SRM downshifting - Zero hiss on decel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRmgbJIq3Qs

Normal driving - No Hiss!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Avy2whj2w

Flyby's will be another week or 2, as well as a dyno pull vid.

Staples 03-07-2012 01:24 AM

Sounds really good! I think once you get those fly-by videos it will make a lot of people decide on which exhaust they're going to go with.

NeverBoneStck 03-07-2012 01:26 AM

Do you feel like you gained anything from this ? Sound , tq or hp ?? My biggest complaint about my FI exhaust was the drone and hiss .. Do you feel like you lost a little low end ?? Been bugging Tony about this exhaust for over a year now and it seems he is getting really close for us G guys . Called him today but he seemed really grumpy .. Nice exhaust ..

Staples 03-07-2012 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1585541)
Do you feel like you gained anything from this ? Sound , tq or hp ?? My biggest complaint about my FI exhaust was the drone and hiss .. Do you feel like you lost a little low end ?? Been bugging Tony about this exhaust for over a year now and it seems he is getting really close for us G guys . Called him today but he seemed really grumpy .. Nice exhaust ..

I'm sure Tony has a lot on his plate. This is a huge break-through for Motordyne as well as the 370z community, hopefully the 37 scene as well. :tup:

Boost_lee 03-07-2012 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1585541)
Do you feel like you gained anything from this ? Sound , tq or hp ?? My biggest complaint about my FI exhaust was the drone and hiss .. Do you feel like you lost a little low end ?? Been bugging Tony about this exhaust for over a year now and it seems he is getting really close for us G guys . Called him today but he seemed really grumpy .. Nice exhaust ..

I cant tell honestly, but the low end feels a little better if I had to guess.

Drone and hiss - 100% improvement.

I love the sound of this thing.

Motordyne 03-07-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1585541)
...Been bugging Tony about this exhaust for over a year now and it seems he is getting really close for us G guys . Called him today but he seemed really grumpy .. Nice exhaust ..

Sorry about the grumpyness. I wasn't feeling well after a visit to the dentists drill.:icon14:

After doing more work on the G37 I found it will be easier to simply make the midpipe muffler outlet tubes longer. The muffler change does however necessitate making a new jig and new production run for it. It is being worked on now.

On the positive side, this change means any added cost for extensions is eliminated.:tup:

Staples 03-07-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1586119)
Sorry about the grumpyness. I wasn't feeling well after a visit to the dentists drill.:icon14:

After doing more work on the G37 I found it will be easier to simply make the midpipe muffler outlet tubes longer. The muffler change does however necessitate making a new jig and new production run for it. It is being worked on now.

On the positive side, this change means any added cost for extensions is eliminated.:tup:

What would the turn around time be for us G37 drivers? Thanks

Juruki 03-07-2012 01:14 PM

i want my car to shoot flames too!! :P

NeverBoneStck 03-07-2012 01:58 PM

Let me know .... Tired of my hiss ...

Motordyne 03-07-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1586183)
What would the turn around time be for us G37 drivers? Thanks

No time tables right now but it is being worked on at maximum velocity. ;)

haitech 03-07-2012 03:33 PM

Is this out for production? I didn't know motordyne made an exhaust.

Staples 03-07-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitech (Post 1586385)
Is this out for production? I didn't know motordyne made an exhaust.

They've been making exhausts for a while now (350z and G35). The 370z exhaust just came out.

Boost_lee 03-07-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitech (Post 1586385)
Is this out for production? I didn't know motordyne made an exhaust.

The first run of 25 was completed I believe. Not sure if all sold, but they did start shipping about a 1.5 weeks ago.

ZForce 03-08-2012 12:44 AM

Boost, I would not expect anything less than your attention to detail. Been watching your build for some time and your straight forwardness approach to every mod you have bolted on and your meticulous research prior to pulling the trigger simply amazes me. Your write up's could be right out of any popular sport tune magazine. Props Sir Boost !!

I now have my wish list completed....MotorDyne all the way!!!

Great job Tony!!!

Motordyne 03-08-2012 12:50 AM

Thank you ZForce! :)

Boost_lee 03-08-2012 01:11 AM

Wow, thanks Z Force! That would be a dream job :) haha


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