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Methodical4u 10-20-2011 02:23 AM

oh, and i'll rep you when it will let me lol... it says I repped you not long ago, don't know why that matters.

GZ3 10-20-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1367474)
That's interesting... so you were tuned but had no cbe with these numbers?

this was untuned!

harp00n 10-20-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by harp00n (Post 1367231)
nice write, Jordo!

I have HPS tubes and stock filters and I can say I like my throttle response after adding tubes only!

It's a very dusty area here, so I'm afraid of using AFE drop-ins, because I'm not sure about their filtration ability... Or maybe they are good at filtering?

any thoughts about the AFE drop-ins? are they good at filtering? :confused:

p.s. I also thought about heat shielding stock airboxes, so it would be nice to know if it makes sense :tiphat:

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 09:04 AM

Why do you guys feel the need to heat shield plastic air boxes that keep iat's far lower than shielded g3s?

GZ3 10-20-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by harp00n (Post 1368264)
any thoughts about the AFE drop-ins? are they good at filtering? :confused:

p.s. I also thought about heat shielding stock airboxes, so it would be nice to know if it makes sense :tiphat:

AFE dryflows are what i had, they are great filters that do just as well as K&N...

Methodical4u 10-20-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368338)
Why do you guys feel the need to heat shield plastic air boxes that keep iat's far lower than shielded g3s?

Have you taken the temps of the airboxes while the car was sitting? If so, what were they? Have you taken temps of around town driving? If so, what were they? Have you taken ANY temps of the airboxes at all? If so ... what were they? Every degree cooler is going to result in power, if only by a marginal amount.


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That's because, on a 90 degree day, sitting at a redlight for a few minutes, your IAT's may rise to 150 degrees or more.
A quote from Modshack above... 150 degrees or more... now why would heat shielding help with that Zed? Hmmmm, doesn't seem to take a rocket scientist does it?

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 11:13 AM

Maybe that's why I'm struggling with it...i am only qualified for rocket science.


Iirc, what Steve is talking about there is the reason for ducting. Heat transfer through the plastic is small, but you are picking up hot air at the inlet. Shielding won't help with that.

Methodical4u 10-20-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368662)
Maybe that's why I'm struggling with it...i am only qualified for rocket science.


Iirc, what Steve is talking about there is the reason for ducting. Heat transfer through the plastic is small, but you are picking up hot air at the inlet. Shielding won't help with that.

that is why I asked you if you have checked the temps in the boxes at any time... if not, and no one else can chime in then it's all speculation. If one wants power off the line as well as power into higher speeds then everything has to be kept as cool as possible.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 11:35 AM

Yes, I have. My data logs were posted, but the thread was removed after I was accused of being a z hater for posting iat temps. If I have time, I will pull them up and pm you.

Long story short, you suck in hot air. The tuning wall does not heat up on the interior even after reasonable time idling (obviously at 15 minutes plus, everything is heat soaked). Even them, I speculate that it's primarily due to hot air coming in.

Post maf tubes that were notably better insulators saw mild improvements, but not as
Much as youd expect given the extra insulation, lending credence to that theory.

Methodical4u 10-20-2011 11:55 AM

well post them up... I don't care if you're a Z hater or not personally.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1368735)
well post them up... I don't care if you're a Z hater or not personally.

I agreed not to post any more data logs. It's not worth the trouble it brings, and I'm not gonna hassle myself to help a community that won't help itself.


My computer with all my data is still in storage, but I will pm docs when I have them out again.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 11:59 AM

I have dragon run diff and brake temps for a bunch of cars as well if you want those.

b1adesofcha0s 10-20-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368752)
I have dragon run diff and brake temps for a bunch of cars as well if you want those.

Were you taking measurements of everyone's cars at ZDayZ? :icon17:

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 12:04 PM

Yes

b1adesofcha0s 10-20-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368769)
Yes

If I come to ZDayZ would you be able to measure the difference between my IAT's and those for someone else with G3's? Just would like to see if the heat wrap is actually doing anything.


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