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Methodical4u 10-18-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1365008)
Found it...

http://www.the370z.com/1337185-post18.html

So, my mistake, the tune was already done, but the intake only added 9 hp...

Yes, I actually have read that after mods done, that the G3's power output tends to not look as good as with a completely stock car.

Part of the issue is most people who have their numbers posted are using the G3's and are 310-320 whp... no one really has (that I have seen to be fair) numbers listed quite like that with just tubes and a set of K&N drop-ins.

I think that ANY intake system could work, but the SRI systems need colder air run to them... hence the reason that their numbers are low and sometimes lose power. As has been stated here many times... the OE set-up is quite good. I would love to see, and may myself get the drop ins, maf tubes and the fang vents and do a before and after. I'm looking into it and it will be rather stealth, which I also like.

Pelican170 10-18-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1365083)
Yes, I actually have read that after mods done, that the G3's power output tends to not look as good as with a completely stock car.

Part of the issue is most people who have their numbers posted are using the G3's and are 310-320 whp... no one really has (that I have seen to be fair) numbers listed quite like that with just tubes and a set of K&N drop-ins.

I think that ANY intake system could work, but the SRI systems need colder air run to them... hence the reason that their numbers are low and sometimes lose power. As has been stated here many times... the OE set-up is quite good. I would love to see, and may myself get the drop ins, maf tubes and the fang vents and do a before and after. I'm looking into it and it will be rather stealth, which I also like.

Yup, i agree. I just feel that often people look at the 18 - 20 HP claim given by Stillen as the increase they are going to get, regardless of mods done already or planning on doing...

If you do get the tubes, drop ins and vents and get it dyno'd, post back, would be curious to see that...

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1365157)
Yup, i agree. I just feel that often people look at the 18 - 20 HP claim given by Stillen as the increase they are going to get, regardless of mods done already or planning on doing...

If you do get the tubes, drop ins and vents and get it dyno'd, post back, would be curious to see that...

Oh, I definitely will. Modshack has said that the only difference as far as the airflow is that intake temps will rise by sitting, but once at around 25 mph they quickly reduce to right around what the Stillen's temps are. ( this is what I remember, and I could be slightly off )

If you want faster drag times, the G3's are going to be the way to go, as they are going to be much cooler sitting before a run and obviously will quickly come down will less speed... let alone a run going into the 103-114 mph trap speeds i've seen out of a lot of the 1/4 mile times.

If one is a track driver that runs a warm up lap, there might not be as much difference as people think. That of course would be up for debate though.

KamiSpeed 10-18-2011 04:14 PM

OP, depends on what you want... tubes and filters are fine if you don't want to spend too much and a decent gain, if you want all the power possible from intakes, then consider other options.

Teddy KGB 10-18-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1365211)
Oh, I definitely will. Modshack has said that the only difference as far as the airflow is that intake temps will rise by sitting, but once at around 25 mph they quickly reduce to right around what the Stillen's temps are. ( this is what I remember, and I could be slightly off )

Add in the temp rise because of heat soak in the polished pipes of the G3 versus the more heat resistant silicone or rubber of the post MAF tubes of your choice. I would think that at speed the difference in temp would be negligible.

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 04:46 PM

i've really been thinking of some kind of set-up where I could do an SRI type of system, but also get the colder air in.. I would use the fang vents of course, but even getting the temps down even more. A shame that using meth isn't really an option.

XwChriswX 10-18-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1365083)
Yes, I actually have read that after mods done, that the G3's power output tends to not look as good as with a completely stock car.

Part of the issue is most people who have their numbers posted are using the G3's and are 310-320 whp... no one really has (that I have seen to be fair) numbers listed quite like that with just tubes and a set of K&N drop-ins.

I think that ANY intake system could work, but the SRI systems need colder air run to them... hence the reason that their numbers are low and sometimes lose power. As has been stated here many times... the OE set-up is quite good. I would love to see, and may myself get the drop ins, maf tubes and the fang vents and do a before and after. I'm looking into it and it will be rather stealth, which I also like.

With our car, it's always the first mod that gives you the most 'power' gained. Then as you add in other mods, you don't see as much as other people when you do it in different orders. Someone with a new exhaust will see a 10hp increase over stock, then with their intakes see 2hp. In reverse someone who puts on new intakes sees the 10hp gain, then when they add exhaust, it's only a 2hp gain.

And again these gains are only seen with the stock ecu map. When you go to get your car tuned, that's when you see a larger improvement and also improved driveability because your ecu now knows your engine breathes easier. So that's where you get the most benefit out of it.

The best way to look at it is Where do you want to be power wise, and What are you willing to spend. Don't look at it as well if I get this intake, or this intake, or that intake... Look at it as I want Max HP and I don't care about cost. Or I'm on a tight budget and peak numbers aren't the most important.
Get all your mods done, then get a tune. That's where the numbers really matter, once you're done with Everything.

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 06:32 PM

Lol if I get an intake that makes 1 more hp... ill get it lol

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 06:36 PM

Op..as mentioned above... every dyno is different... order of mods will give you different results... hell, even the tuner can make more of a difference... some say the trick is air volume... some say its intake position... however, the unanimous agreement is that the air must be as cool as possible

XwChriswX 10-18-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1365627)
Lol if I get an intake that makes 1 more hp... ill get it lol

Just make sure to buy it from KamiSpeed. :tup:

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 06:40 PM

Lol well kami speed... hook me up with the price.

XwChriswX 10-18-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1365640)
Lol well kami speed... hook me up with the price.

YEAH KamiSpeed... Where you at?!!!? :icon08:















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One_Quick_Z 10-18-2011 07:51 PM

I love my HPS Tubes and Filters... but I may be going a different route so I might be getting rid of them this coming spring....




DAN

Methodical4u 10-18-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z (Post 1365743)
I love my HPS Tubes and Filters... but I may be going a different route so I might be getting rid of them this coming spring....




DAN

you going FI?

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 09:23 PM

i ran hps and filters, also tried the injens. was much happier with the post maf tubes.


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