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doublea2527 08-23-2011 11:34 AM

Quick question
 
I have the Fast Intentions exhaust and just ordered the Stillen Gen 3 intakes. When I put the intakes on, will it be absolutely necessary to get a tune or do you think it will be fine. I will be getting a tune in the future, but just don't have the means to right now and don't want to be too leaned out.

doublea2527 08-24-2011 03:37 AM

Nobody has the answer to this?

90 ST 08-24-2011 04:47 AM

you should be fine, but get a tune sooner then later. i have G3 intakes and a CNT CBE, no tune, yet.

JC671 08-24-2011 09:09 AM

No tune nesseceary unless your anal about extracting every bit of power. Honestly if your gonna continue modding with N/A mods. Get all the bolt ons them pay for a tune. Rather than mod, tune, mod, tune... It gets costly if you do it like that.

somatic 08-24-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JC671 (Post 1277905)
No tune nesseceary unless your anal about extracting every bit of power. Honestly if your gonna continue modding with N/A mods. Get all the bolt ons them pay for a tune. Rather than mod, tune, mod, tune... It gets costly if you do it like that.

:iagree:

Methodical4u 08-24-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1277914)
:iagree:

I second... not that much power that comes from a tune... but it might get you a little better mileage overall ... so that will save you a little money in the long run... but do you drive like that? lol

partsguy 08-24-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC671 (Post 1277905)
No tune nesseceary unless your anal about extracting every bit of power. Honestly if your gonna continue modding with N/A mods. Get all the bolt ons them pay for a tune. Rather than mod, tune, mod, tune... It gets costly if you do it like that.

:facepalm:

Josh@STILLEN 08-24-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by doublea2527 (Post 1275930)
I have the Fast Intentions exhaust and just ordered the Stillen Gen 3 intakes. When I put the intakes on, will it be absolutely necessary to get a tune or do you think it will be fine. I will be getting a tune in the future, but just don't have the means to right now and don't want to be too leaned out.

Generally you're able to get away with the Gen 3 intakes, cat-back exhaust and EITHER HFC/TP or headers. When you run headers AND HFCs or Test Pipes, you'll be in a lean situation and tuning is mandatory.

That being said, most will go UpRev if they have Gen 3's, cat-back and HFCs, which will dial in the A/F ratio, and pick up 8-10whp..

370Zsteve 08-24-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 1278474)
Generally you're able to get away with the Gen 3 intakes, cat-back exhaust and EITHER HFC/TP or headers. When you run headers AND HFCs or Test Pipes, you'll be in a lean situation and tuning is mandatory.

That being said, most will go UpRev if they have Gen 3's, cat-back and HFCs, which will dial in the A/F ratio, and pick up 8-10whp..

:iagree:

daisuke149 08-24-2011 12:58 PM

id say yeah get a tune.

If you dont want to dyno tune get a base map tune for your mods

I had John @ Z1 do a base map tune for my 2 mods and it made the car run quite alot smoother. Its actaully quite disappointing to think how long I drove around with it before.

When I get some other mods added on, i'll be taking the car back to John and he will Dyno tune it. The same uprev license will be used. might cost a bit more to get it done this way (2 stages) vs just a full dyno tune, but i think its well worth it.

370Z JT 08-24-2011 12:59 PM

Will there be a fix for the MAF sensor like AEM has for their intakes?

JC671 08-24-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by partsguy (Post 1278409)
:facepalm:

Please explain how N/A mods is detrimental to the car without a tune. Bolts-ons on the car won't mess with the car so much where your so lean that its dangerous.

Obviously the car will run better with tune and gain power but your talking about $600 dollars a tune for just N/A mods. If you were F/I, you have to have a tune to run the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 1278474)
Generally you're able to get away with the Gen 3 intakes, cat-back exhaust and EITHER HFC/TP or headers. When you run headers AND HFCs or Test Pipes, you'll be in a lean situation and tuning is mandatory.

That being said, most will go UpRev if they have Gen 3's, cat-back and HFCs, which will dial in the A/F ratio, and pick up 8-10whp..

Most people do not go with the headers as most already know that they don't do much. Only proven header is the FI LTH. Other than that most have ran the car with I/HFC or TP/ CBE without issues.

But would you pay $600 every time you added a bolt on? All I suggested is that he get all that then tune. Not everyone has $$$$ disposable to shell out for a tune after a $300-500 mod was added.

Josh@STILLEN 08-24-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC671 (Post 1279629)
Please explain how N/A mods is detrimental to the car without a tune. Bolts-ons on the car won't mess with the car so much where your so lean that its dangerous.

Obviously the car will run better with tune and gain power but your talking about $600 dollars a tune for just N/A mods. If you were F/I, you have to have a tune to run the car.



Most people do not go with the headers as most already know that they don't do much. Only proven header is the FI LTH. Other than that most have ran the car with I/HFC or TP/ CBE without issues.

But would you pay $600 every time you added a bolt on? All I suggested is that he get all that then tune. Not everyone has $$$$ disposable to shell out for a tune after a $300-500 mod was added.

You can do enough with the airflow on a full set of bolt-on's to bring the car out of the range where it can adapt and run lean. The Z runs a very adaptive ECU, but it can only do much. We've seen the trigger being the combination of the headers and removing the factory cats.

Yes, agree with your position of get the mods you're going to do, then tune for maximum $$ savings. But remember part of what you're paying for in the tune is the license itself, which UpRev runs $300. Anything beyond that, and you're just paying for dyno and tuning time, so it gets less expensive.

If you're really wanting to geek out and go to town, you can also get the Tuner version of UpRev, and you can tweak most things yourself. More expensive route? Absolutely.. but a lot of enthusiasts enjoy learning the details of tuning, and UpRev's tuner version will do just that. It's not the full package that a tuning shop will get, but you have enough leeway to hang yourself if you're not careful.

ChipsWithDips 08-25-2011 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1278482)
Will there be a fix for the MAF sensor like AEM has for their intakes?

That's what a tune is for. Those MAF signal modifiers are a kludge and unnecessary if you just get a tune anyways.

JZNx 08-25-2011 02:10 AM

Sorry to change the subject but I am really new at this...
but what is tuning?
Is it like adjusting the settings or something?
lol... thanks for helping out guys =)


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