First and foremost thank you for taking an interest in our products!

You look like you are set on our CBE so there is not really much for me to say with that but, thank you!

Now as far as comparing the ART test pipes to our long tube headers, there are alot of things to consider between the two. Purchase cost, install time and/or cost, performance & sound.

I can tell you the test pipes will cost less, are easier to install and will cost less to install. However the sound is subjective and everyone will perceive it differently. Now I can only compare our test pipes to our headers. I have never seen the ART test pipes in person nor done a dyno comparison.

What I can tell you is this, our headers combined with our CBE will give your car a very high end exotic sound. The throttle response from idle to red line is vastly improved over stock. It is beyond a night and day difference!

Again, at the end of the day there a lot of different deciding factors to consider. I am always available via telephone.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to call me directly...

Thank you, Tony

Are there any vids out there comparing the CF to the SS. I just ordered my exhaust, but I opted for the SS casue I like the way it looks, but is the sound that much different?

To all in this thread,

I have read everyones comments, some of them twice. I think there are a lot of good points.

I want to chime in a little bit.

I feel we have an edge over everyone else. Yes we are a small company but you have seen the production numbers that we have been able to produce.

I cannot think of another company where I can call up, directly deal with the owner and only the owner. That owner is also the designer and creator of my exhaust. Oh and lastly that owner is building my exhaust with his own hands. The bottom line is this. All of of our exhaust systems are manufactured in house. This is the only way to ensure quality assurance.

"Believe me when I tell you, it is physically demanding however we have worked too hard and spent too much time to put our reputation in someone else's hands".

For the record all of our headers are constructed from 304 stainless steel and than left bare or ceramic coated. I noticed in one of the comments someone stated we used steel. I just wanted to clear that up.

I am not trying to turn this into a flame war so let's not go there. However, I am encouraging any of you to call me with any questions that you may have.

Thank you, Tony

The carbon fiber will sound slightly different and a little more exotic sounding. It is so close though! At the end of the day if you are leaning one way or the other, go that way. You will not regret it either way! If you do it right the first time, you only have to do it once!

Thanks, Tony

Again, my 18" carbon exhaust & LTH's is my most rewarding mod I've done to the car, so far ;) The sound is very exotic, and am getting complements everywhere I go.

Man, I love my Stillen parts but kinda wish I bought some F.I. stuff just to support a company with such good customer service. All I hear is good stuff bout you and your company Tony, keep up the good work!!!

Tony,

We should sponsor some parts for an independent comparative dyno test and with sound clips.

It would make an interesting comparison everyone would like to see.

Test pipes VS FI LTH VS MD T370 ART pipes.

I'm sure there will be moderate power variations between them and probably more dramatic sound differences.

Later on, we could even do an exhaust comparison when the MD E370 is ready.

There is no hurry but it's something we can do.

Tony

Thanks for the positive comments, it is greatly appreciated. If you ever need anything please do not hesitate to call me direclty...

Thank you, Tony

I am definitely open to the idea. Send me an email sometime in the future so we can discuss this further...

Thanks, Tony

Right on. :)


When the MD E370 production is ready we will include the FI and MD exhausts in the same independent comparison.

We'll have to get some good HD A/V recording gear for the occasion.

Since reading this read and putting together a mod list for my car, Im kinda of curious as to what kind of gains can be seen with a CAI, the M370 Intake manifold, FI LTH and FI Carbon Catback Exhaust with 12" resonators.

Can I call dibs on being the test mule for the comparo? Figured Id ask lol

Whenever you are ready to discuss your options and possibly place an order for the exhaust, please do not hesitate to call me directly...

Thank you, Tony